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Post by timbo on Dec 23, 2009 20:17:25 GMT
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Post by Dave on Dec 23, 2009 20:29:47 GMT
£6 to sponsor the match ball, just how does that compare with the price charged today? I might be wrong, but it sounds a lot less than is asked these days, maybe half the problem with sponsorship today, is the fact its priced to highly.
So the great old supporters club paid to have our games broadcast in our local hospitals, anybody know Derek Brad? the man who made the broadcasts and I wonder if we have anyone on here who may have been in hospital when these broadcasts were made and can remember them.
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Post by merse on Dec 23, 2009 20:39:11 GMT
£6 to sponsor the match ball, just how does that compare with the price charged today? I might be wrong, but it sounds a lot less than is asked these days, maybe half the problem with sponsorship today, is the fact its priced to highly.  Yes but it wasn't a "corporate deal" in those days, nothing was offered in return so it was literally the cost of purchasing an ordinary leather football. Even in "my day" there was nothing offered in return except for an acknowledgement in the programme and over the PA system pre-match......................no seats, no meals nothing else. Nowadays (I believe) the club don't even have to purchase matchballs do they? Don't they come as part of a Football League corporate deal in the club colours so that we have blue and yellow trim, Exeter get red and white and Argyle (err) green.............ugh! |
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Post by stewart on Dec 23, 2009 23:23:04 GMT
I remember this game for several reasons:
Firstly, my astonishment at seeing Roy Bentley, who had been a centre-forward for Chelsea and England in the early 1950s, now playing at right back for a Third Division team. Such a thing would be the stuff of fiction in the modern era.
Secondly, another sighting of Mike Keen, the prodigious equivalent of Steven Gerrard or perhaps even Duncan Edwards in Division 3 terms. He was a powerhouse at wing half but also a very skilful player who always seemed to perform brilliantly against Torquay.
Thirdly, I could not keep my eyes off the threat and movement of Brian Bedford and Bernard Evans, both burly strikers who had run Torquay ragged the previous year. I had never seen a better forward pairing than those two at Plainmoor, and in truth probably never have since.
Finally, an incredible volleyed goal from a narrow angle by Gordon Astall from a cross by Ernie Pym. Astall scored comparatively few goals in his two seasons with United, but this was undoubtedly the best.
Note also the unusual numbers worn by Tom Northcott, who actually played up front with Brian Handley, and Larry Baxter, who looked rather like a fish out of water after losing his right-wing spot to Astall, and, in his last season at the club, only played when Geoff Cox was absent.
I mentioned the match in the previous season, right at the end of it in fact. If Timbo has that programme (22/4/61), I would love to see it again, as there is quite a story to be told about it.
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Post by timbo on Dec 24, 2009 10:08:08 GMT
I mentioned the match in the previous season, right at the end of it in fact. If Timbo has that programme (22/4/61), I would love to see it again, as there is quite a story to be told about it. Yes Stewart,I do have it. Will post it as soon as I can. See we got stuffed 1-6. |
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Post by Jon on Dec 24, 2009 14:01:44 GMT
Note also the unusual numbers worn by Tom Northcott, who actually played up front with Brian Handley, and Larry Baxter, who looked rather like a fish out of water after losing his right-wing spot to Astall, and, in his last season at the club, only played when Geoff Cox was absent. I'm glad you clarified that Stewart - I was trying to work out what kind of a wing-half Northcott would be! I assume that we played 3-3-4 with Baxter and Mills either side of Spencer in midfield. Is that about right? |
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Post by stewart on Dec 24, 2009 15:21:39 GMT
Note also the unusual numbers worn by Tom Northcott, who actually played up front with Brian Handley, and Larry Baxter, who looked rather like a fish out of water after losing his right-wing spot to Astall, and, in his last season at the club, only played when Geoff Cox was absent. I'm glad you clarified that Stewart - I was trying to work out what kind of a wing-half Northcott would be! I assume that we played 3-3-4 with Baxter and Mills either side of Spencer in midfield. Is that about right? I may be wrong, but I don't believe that Don Mills ever wore any shirt number other than 10. This may explain why Tom Northcott ended up with no. 6, by default rather than tactical plan. Don't forget that these were still the days of 3-2-5, although when Geoff Cox played it was usually more like 3-2-1-4, with Cox lying deeper although still regarded as a forward. This usually meant that there was no central midfield player as we now understand that role, more a right half and left half, to use antiquated positional terms. These were the positions of Ray Spencer and Don Mills in this particular game. Thus, Larry Baxter assumed Cox's role for a while after the arrival of Gordon Astall, but he was clearly never happy there. He is one of my favourite players in the history of the club, because on his day he was unplayable and I would place him above both Doug Clarke and Micky Cave in the historical pecking order. Never was he more devastating that in the FA Cup match against Northampton Town in 1959, when he seemed to be bursting past his full-back and delivering perfect crosses almost every minute of the game. |
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Post by terryw on Dec 28, 2009 13:08:00 GMT
Hi there..just discovered this site...i SO agree about Larry Baxter..he was my favourite player of that era and saw him score with a corner kick (twice i think tho this could be nostalgia) without the benefit of megabuck boots or bendy footballs...anyone confirm this?
Also wikipedia has the herald express reporting him as a club singer in leicester in 2000..is this a joke?
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Post by Dave on Dec 28, 2009 13:12:57 GMT
Hi terryw. welcome to the TFF, we have a few history men on here who I'm sure once they see your post will answer your question. I'm sure you will find many threads that will interest you in both the history room and our programmes room. If you need any help using the forum, then please just ask and I'll help where possible.
Dave
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Post by wonderland on May 30, 2011 19:35:04 GMT
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Post by wonderland on May 30, 2011 19:38:05 GMT
Hi Timbo
This was my first match ever at the holy grail. My Granddad took me, and it cost me 1 shilling and threepence to get in.
Thanks I really enjoyed this moment. Within a few weeks, Gordon Astall stood on the edge of the box when Shrewsbury's goallie drop kicked the ball into his face.
It flew in the net for our 5th goal and Gordon was knocked out and woke up next morning not realisig that he had scored.
Great days!!!
Den
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Post by stewart on Apr 21, 2018 0:32:07 GMT
I remember this game for several reasons: Firstly, my astonishment at seeing Roy Bentley, who had been a centre-forward for Chelsea and England in the early 1950s, now playing at right back for a Third Division team. Such a thing would be the stuff of fiction in the modern era. Secondly, another sighting of Mike Keen, the prodigious equivalent of Steven Gerrard or perhaps even Duncan Edwards in Division 3 terms. He was a powerhouse at wing half but also a very skilful player who always seemed to perform brilliantly against Torquay. Thirdly, I could not keep my eyes off the threat and movement of Brian Bedford and Bernard Evans, both burly strikers who had run Torquay ragged the previous year. I had never seen a better forward pairing than those two at Plainmoor, and in truth probably never have since. Finally, an incredible volleyed goal from a narrow angle by Gordon Astall from a cross by Ernie Pym. Astall scored comparatively few goals in his two seasons with United, but this was undoubtedly the best. Note also the unusual numbers worn by Tom Northcott, who actually played up front with Brian Handley, and Larry Baxter, who looked rather like a fish out of water after losing his right-wing spot to Astall, and, in his last season at the club, only played when Geoff Cox was absent. I mentioned the match in the previous season, right at the end of it in fact. If Timbo has that programme (22/4/61), I would love to see it again, as there is quite a story to be told about it. I don't expect that too many people will revisit this thread as it occurred so long ago. Nevertheless, I have just seen that Roy Bentley has died at the age of 93. which immediately revoked memories of that match back in 1962. I suppose that Gareth Bale in the modern era would be able to tell a similar story of his conversion from full back to striker, nevertheless in the 1960s it was an extremely rare event and Roy Bentley should be remembered as a great player who wanted to prolong his career as long as possible by dropping to a much lower level and in a foreign position. Today's earphone wearing millionaires would scoff at that prospect. It would be like Wayne Rooney ending his career at left back for Tranmere Rovers. How times have changed, but thanks for all the memories, Roy Bentley, and rest in peace. |
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