davethegull
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Post by davethegull on Mar 6, 2010 8:19:20 GMT
Forgive this somewhat self indulgent thread, but i would like your opinions. I know i can rely on you guys to be blunt and honest. As i have gone thro this last week in my 40's i've been doing a lot of navel fluff pulling as it were. Considering how my life was in my 30's and then 40's and what it has in store for my 50's. My 30's were pants, divorce, losing home, kids and the identity i thought i had as a father and husband. By my 40's i had clawed my way out of the pit, had my own business and doing pretty good. Then the mid-life crisis hit. So it was either buy a sports car or go travelling. So look out world here i come! What an amazing experience that was. The things i saw, heard and felt changed me completely. So much so i decided to move out here to asia and live. And so, here i am wondering what's in store. Should i just accept i'm an old fart now? I don't feel ready to. I'm starting a new marketing business out here and asia is a really exciting place to be right now. It's not really suffered the depression of the western world. I feel excited about what i'm trying to create and it's daunting but a real buzz. Should i be risking all at my age? Hell yes!! How did you handle the dreaded "Five-Oh"? Did you change or evolve? Or am i just over thinking the whole thing? For those not yet anywhere close to 50. Can you imagine what you will be doing then? I'm damn sure i couldn't and i would have been hopelessly wide of the mark! Self indulgence over........for now
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Post by longeatongull on Mar 6, 2010 8:47:54 GMT
Well done DTG....very thought provoking. It really is frightening how the years go by and the biggest thing that hits me now is that I know EVERYBODY "well known" that sadly passes away. The first thought normally is "im older than them or close to them in age" You never stop learning do you and may I wish you well in your new venture. As you know I have friends around the world -Denmark/Cyprus/South Africa and they have all been struggling with "crunch/downturn/call it what you will" and I am pleased that the same has not affected your area. Anyway ...sorry I am rambling....good luck in your 50's--let me know what its like ;D ;D from a youngster!!!!
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Post by paulr on Mar 6, 2010 9:21:39 GMT
When you reach your 50’s Dave you will find………dam, forgot what I was going to say…….!
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Post by aussie on Mar 6, 2010 9:50:19 GMT
44 in April so no idea what so ever mate, but you have got me thinking about it, cheers like I needed to be any more depressed, only joking of course, when you discover the answer to your question don`t bloody share it with me! ;D
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Post by Dave on Mar 6, 2010 11:54:13 GMT
Dave there is a saying that you are as old as you feel and another that says life is what you make it. The first one is very true and one you are fully in control of, you can keep your mind as young as you can or you can just let yourself turn into an old man.
I don’t think its as simple as breaking life down into decades, what happened to you in your 30’s will happen to others in their 40’s and even their 50’s or 60’s, but its how you cope and deal with what happens to you, how you move on and how you do your best to let go of the things that deeply hurt you and not let them prevent you from being able to start again and find the things you really want in your life.
At 55 years old I feel I have a very kid like mind and it’s in my mind that I don’t feel that I’m old, it’s just my body these days that wants to disagree with that, I like others my age have to accept there are things I can no longer do that I once did.
So is life what you make it? Are you really the master of your own destiny? Well yes and no really as while you may strive to make the life you want others who at any given time are a part of your life, can so easily destroy and ruin your dreams and hopes.
I’m a real peoples person, I know I need to have them in my life, but I’ll tell you what, all the major problems and heart breaking events that have forced me to keep changing direction, have been caused not by me, but those other people I have always felt I needed.
You can ask some young people what they want to be when they grow up, what they want to do to earning their living and while some will come up with answers, others will simply tell you they don’t know. The question must be is it important to set yourself directions, have hopes and make plans for what you want your life to be and get out of it want you want.
I think it is to a degree as what is the point of just having nothing to aim for or anything to hope for and I know that when I was young, due to my terrible childhood, I knew all the things I needed so desperately in my life and I mapped out in my head the life I wanted to make for myself.
I had no ambitions to be a brain surgeon, I never wanted to be rich and live in some big fine house, NO, all I was looking for was to have my own proper family and one I could make perfect and live happy ever after in and that for me would have been all the riches I ever wanted in my life.
The most important thing in my mind at 20 years old and married, was that my children would not have the childhood I did, they would not have the suffering and heartache that I had and that to me then was the biggest aim I had in life. We would all be the perfect family and so close and loving as that is what I had to give and I felt the real inner strength that I was forced to develop as a child, would always win any battles along the way and keep my hopes and dreams alive and well.
Well did I succeed? NO and that is where this “life is what you make it” falls down and it does because you make the wrong choices, you picked the wrong person or person’s to make you dreams and hopes come true. I know why I did that at the time, it was simply a case of wanting and needing so much in my life the family I had always wanted, that I rushed into it and did not learn all I should have learned about the person who was now going to play such a big part over the next 16 years of my life and the one person who could make my dreams come true or destroy them.
Its true that as you get older you learn to get wiser and one big lesson I have learned is if you plan to spend your life with someone, you need to make sure they want all the same things you do and share your dreams, because if not, then there is every chance it will all end in tears.
But even at the time when a break-up comes and you know it has to happen, you still have hopes and dreams of how it will be after and how you can make the best of it and still have some of the things you want and need in your life. But once again that other person can still play such a big part in making sure your hopes do not materialize and you can’t have even the simple things that really you should be entitled too and should be a right by virtue of the fact that you fathered the children, loved them so much and never wanted them not to be a big part of your life still.
But that is another lesson you have to learn that you can’t always have what you want and sometimes you have to have what may be classed as only second best but it could turn out to just what you have always wanted and it is 100% genuine and the love is real and that is what is really important and what you can hold on too.
At 55 years old I have now had to resign myself to the fact I can do nothing to have my own three children in each others lives as I have always wanted, I have been lucky as my son has always stood by my side and he alone has been the reason I have always found the way to beat those dark days when I even questioned if I felt life was worth living anymore.
To much damage was done at the time of the break-up and I know now it’s unlikely he will ever be friends with his sister who is just 13 months younger than him, but then I will still carry the hope that before I die they will find a way as it has always broken my heart to see my children at war, even more so when you think of what I wanted for my children.
She her self drifts in and out of my life and allows herself to get pulled in and away from me whenever her mother wants to pull the strings and as a result I end up not being a part of my three grandchildren’s life as is the case right now, but I don’t dwell on it too much as another lesson I have learned is to make the best of what you have got and I’ll come to that in a second or two.
The baby of my family was taken to Wales to live without my knowledge or consent at just 8 years old and she make contact with me just over two years ago now and Carol and I went and spent the day with her and her husband at Bristol zoo. A perfect day I will cherish forever and no one can ever take away from me, only once the other person found out she had met me, she soon made sure it would never happen again.
I learned a few weeks ago that my baby now has a baby of her own, only the person who told me was told not to tell me, but the person felt I had a right to know and yes a part of me feels very sad of the whole sorry state of affairs, but there is nothing I can do about it and can only hope time will be on my side and that Lucinda remembers for herself the love and happy times she had with me before she was taken away in the way she was.
But life has its compensations and you learn to get what you still want out of it and I’m so lucky in so many ways and do have now the perfect family, even if its not completely mine in terms of bloodlines etc. I have the perfect partner in Carol, a lady who all her life just wanted the perfect family life and so we were made for each other and if I had just once wish in life, it would be that she was the mother of my children.
I think that’s why the news of her cancer hit me so hard, I felt back then that life was so unfair as for the first time in my life I had found all that I had been looking for and I was in so much danger of losing it and once again I would find my life so empty of the things I have always needed, that I should have had by right as a child but never got.
For the first time in my life I felt really guilty of being selfish as it was Carol who had cancer and not me and I knew I had to get out of my heads and thoughts of her dieing and make sure I was strong for her and make sure we held hands and fought together all the battles that lay ahead to ensure we have as much time together as possible.
Last night at 6pm two lovely young girls arrived at our home, they are Carol’s grandchildren and their grandfather is not by his choice a big part of their lives. The first thing they did when they got inside the back door was to come and find me and give me cuddles and tell me all about the parade they are taking part in today.
Their mum on leaving after she had dropped of the girls for the weekend with Carol and I said to me that the girls loved me so much and you get out what you put in. Yes in the case of Faith and Holly that seems to be so true and they have allowed me to fulfil and live my dreams and hopes I never gave up on. While I wish it could be like this with my own children and grandchildren I know I can’t ask anymore of those who make up for so much of what I have lost and what I see as a failure on my part to prevent happening what did happen to my own children.
So Dave being 50 years old will feel no different and its so good to hear you have plans and ambitions and things to aim for, but as you go through your 50’s don’t forget the real treasures are not those you can put into a bank, not those prized processions you may be able to afford to buy, but having people who truly love you for who you are and are always there when you need them.
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Post by stefano on Mar 6, 2010 13:58:56 GMT
How did you handle the dreaded "Five-Oh"? Did you change or evolve? Or am i just over thinking the whole thing? 50 was memorable but far to much going on to think about my age! Divorced after 28 years 'service' to an honourable institution, so took up skiing and horse riding as things that I had not done before, left my long term occupation having completed my full term of 30 years and went to work in Italy for four years. Regular visits to the San Siro, Stadio delle Alpi, and the Olympic Stadium after Juventus moved there (whilst still following the Gulls via text message and phone internet), skiing almost daily in the winter, and exploring Umbria and Tuscany in the summer were all enough to take my mind off anything age related! Returning to the UK it was quite a shock when my birthday cards arrived this year to discover I have only got two years to go for my free bus pass! So is 60 old? Anybody know? ;D
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Post by petef on Mar 6, 2010 18:11:34 GMT
Watch out for time speeding up once your past the 50 mark. I'm just behind Dave R in the age stakes and a year now seems like six months! Frightening. If you have the right attitude then 50 or even 60 isn't old but there are so many factors from genetics, good/bad fortune and most important your personal health and well being that determine the person you are and the person you become and when the years eventually out number the hairs on your head. My advice keep as physically fit and avoid unnecessary stress for as long as you can and you will continue to feel younger than your birth date suggests.
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Post by loyalgull on Mar 6, 2010 20:41:36 GMT
got to agree,nearly 52 but seems a very short time ago i was 21,its frightening how quick time passes,especially as you get older.But i dont know about anyone else but i now have no fear of meeting the maker in the sky,at peace with my life and although i consider myself still reasonably young know of many people who havent reached 50,something i am grateful for,lets hope it continues for a while yet
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Post by petef on Mar 6, 2010 20:48:22 GMT
got to agree,nearly 52 but seems a very short time ago i was 21,its frightening how quick time passes,especially as you get older.But i dont know about anyone else but i now have no fear of meeting the maker in the sky,at peace with my life and although i consider myself still reasonably young know of many people who havent reached 50,something i am grateful for,lets hope it continues for a while yet With you on that one Loyal.
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Post by merse on Mar 6, 2010 21:28:13 GMT
Having reached my fifty seventh year * and being the father of three youngsters (9,6 and ten months) I guess I would be held as an example of being only as old as you feel. Well tonight I feel bloody old and a darn sight older than 57!The thing is (and my much younger partner doesn't often recognise this) that I do need periods of rest and recuperation after a strength sapping week of getting up at 3am and (with the exception of Wednesdays) not finishing actively working or running around with Anthony and his football commitments until after 8pm. I've been to hell and high water and back with her getting annoyed at me havng a lay in on Saturdays and then making me feel really uncomfortable for wanting to do nothing more on a Saturday morning than sit around and fiddle about on this site or my blog ~ that is except when Anthony doesn't have his monthly Saturday morning match for Arsenal or until it is time for his weekly 12.30 training session with A Class! Hurrumphing and cursing as she batters my feet with the Hoover, and frequently reminding me that she needs Saturdays free too usually gets a row going, so that by the time Sunday comes I am only too pleased to wave her off to her church and I can disappear with the kids to the car wash, the park or a walk on Hampstead Heath. We've had the occasional Sunday football match this season, heaven help us if Anthony plays in the ECHO Sunday League next season as A Class want him to! Whilst I happily celebrated my fortieth birthday by cycling from Bordeaux to Barcelona via The Pyrenees, my fiftieth (or was that fifty first? ) by "knocking out" Olivia; I'll be happy just to see in my sixtieth with a sponge cake and something on top to blow on if you get my meaning. I've had my health scares, I do have my health problems and deteriorating joints and the residual pain that goes with it. I've got my failing memory and worrying signs of a bit of dementure creeping in; but I've still got all of my own hair and it is still all of it's own natural colour ~ the same colour it has always been by the way. All but seven of my own teeth and no falsies that need to spend the night in a glass beside me. The eye sight ain't what it was and did I tell you that the memory's failing and dementure seems to be creeping in? The eye sight's not so good now and I'm worried about dementure to the effect that I was offered the use of a debenture seat at Wembley and I turned it down because I didn't want to sit with a load of senile old duffers. When they told me that wasn't what a debenture seat was, I got paranoid about seats with a false teeth holder fitted to them. Did I tell you the memory's fading a bit? I think I'd better stop now. * Oh bugger, I'm in my fifty eighth!
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Post by davethegull on Mar 7, 2010 10:34:58 GMT
I'm supposed to be in Vietnam right now cycling the Ho Chi Minh trail to mark the big 50. However work postponed this folly/adventure til later in the year. Am i clutching at straws or trying to kid myself that i'm not "getting on a bit" as a colleague pointed out to me today! When i look in the mirror i can't help thinking 'bloody hell Dave you're more grey than a badgers arse". When did that happen? So a grade 2 and i can pretend it's skin colour showing thro. Any other age defying tricks? ;D Merse, you must have a few
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Post by Dave on Mar 7, 2010 10:42:41 GMT
Is the age you put down to join the TFF correct Dave? as it shows up to me that your birthday is at the end of the next month.
If its wrong I can't change it myself as this is a very secure forum where your information can't be tampered with or altered.
I can however submit a request for a change to your date of birth be made to Proboards, this I have done before for a few others and it does then mean I get the right day when I post birthday wishes.
Dave
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Post by davethegull on Mar 7, 2010 11:01:00 GMT
Dunno how that happened. It's tomorrow 8th March.
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Post by aussie on Mar 7, 2010 11:01:41 GMT
I discovered to my horror that in my thirties recovering from 90 mins of football used to take a day, or two if it was a tough game, now in my forties it takes three or four days for the legs to recover and five or six days if it was a tough game! You know it`s time up when you just want to play in goal instead of centre forward, now looking for a league of old bastards to play along side so I don`t have to run as much and hurt as much!
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Post by Dave on Mar 7, 2010 11:07:58 GMT
Dunno how that happened. It's tomorrow 8th March. Hi Dave you entered your date of birth as 15/01/1954 the 29th of April was in fact the day you rejoined( a case of me not looking properly at the information ;D) so it should be 08/03/1960 and I will now start the process of getting this changed for you. Dave
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