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Post by merse on Aug 13, 2008 4:05:39 GMT
 BBC Radio Devon have rightfully come in for a lot of criticism over the poor quality of their match commentaries in the past, what with commentators getting their role confused with that as pundit etc. I thought last night's production from Plainmoor to be right out of the top drawer with commentator Russell Ellis(?) providing the vital descriptive and detailed material and TUSTs very own Chris Fleet there as his "foil" coming in with the sort of amusing and observational asides one would enjoy were one fortunate enough to be sitting next to him at a match. Credit where credit is due, but what are the chances of these two teaming up again for another Plainmoor production in the not too far distant future?
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Post by bitemebryn on Aug 13, 2008 6:59:05 GMT
The Woking website seems to be a bit critical of their commentay, but aren't we all when it's not our own local radio doing the commentating !
I listened through the web and thought they did well also. Much better than Ken (comments like he's doing a televised game) Furphey.
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Post by Dave on Aug 13, 2008 15:43:15 GMT
Listen, it must have been good, if it pleased old grumpy Merse ;D The Histon game had big problems, the first half having to be done down a Mobile phone, passed between the guy who was doing it and Dave Thomas. Now I know some have raved about Dave Thomas doing the co cometary, but he is not for me. Give him the mike and off he goes, giving you facts ands figures, that any TUFC fan would know, while the fans listening from the other team, would not care about. What I want to hear is every single kick, every piece of the action, yes there will be parts that need filling it at times I know. Like when the trainer is on etc, but if often becomes a case of I've started so I will finish. I also get mad when they keep giving out the channel and station your are listening on, well sorry I know that already, thats how I tuned in. Lets have people doing it, who will just give up all the action and none of the other rubbish Thats my rant over.  |
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Post by chrish on Aug 13, 2008 17:37:24 GMT
BBC Radio Devon have rightfully come in for a lot of criticism over the poor quality of their match commentaries in the past, what with commentators getting their role confused with that as pundit etc. I thought last night's production from Plainmoor to be right out of the top drawer with commentator Russell Ellis(?) providing the vital descriptive and detailed material and TUSTs very own Chris Fleet there as his "foil" coming in with the sort of amusing and observational asides one would enjoy were one fortunate enough to be sitting next to him at a match. Credit where credit is due, but what are the chances of these two teaming up again for another Plainmoor production in the not too far distant future? Chris Fleet? I thought it was Phil Tufnell. Didn't half sound like him, pop pickers. |
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Post by tufcwewillbeback on Aug 14, 2008 9:40:07 GMT
Listen, it must have been good, if it pleased old grumpy Merse ;D The Histon game had big problems, the first half having to be done down a Mobile phone, passed between the guy who was doing it and Dave Thomas. Now I know some have raved about Dave Thomas doing the co cometary, but he is not for me. Give him the mike and off he goes, giving you facts ands figures, that any TUFC fan would know, while the fans listening from the other team, would not care about. What I want to hear is every single kick, every piece of the action, yes there will be parts that need filling it at times I know. Like when the trainer is on etc, but if often becomes a case of I've started so I will finish. I also get mad when they keep giving out the channel and station your are listening on, well sorry I know that already, thats how I tuned in. Lets have people doing it, who will just give up all the action and none of the other rubbish Thats my rant over. Personally, I think Dave Thomas is the best summariser they have. I quite like his covering of everything Torquay related. Some of the commentaters are abit poor sometimes but it is local radio and the best ones usually get national jobs. |
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Post by Dave on Aug 14, 2008 14:46:22 GMT
Don't get me wrong, he has great knowledge and as a fan is very passionate about the club.
I just feel that when he gets the mike, he goes on two long at times, I really would prefer to hear every kick of the ball and not facts we already know.
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Post by andygulls on Aug 14, 2008 22:10:01 GMT
For me no radio commentators can compare with the late great Peter Jones,who graced the airwaves of Radio 2 and the world service in the 70's and 80's. Teamed with the also brilliant Maurice Eddlestone you never missed a kick. You could imagine every blade of grass, every muddy puddle (yes we played through standing water in those days) every bounce of the ball ...ah halcyon days......
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Post by chipnicker1 on Aug 16, 2008 14:48:21 GMT
Listen, it must have been good, if it pleased old grumpy Merse ;D The Histon game had big problems, the first half having to be done down a Mobile phone, passed between the guy who was doing it and Dave Thomas. [glow=yellow,2,300]Now I know some have raved about Dave Thomas doing the co cometary, but he is not for me. Give him the mike and off he goes, giving you facts ands figures, that any TUFC fan would know, while the fans listening from the other team, would not care about.[/glow] What I want to hear is every single kick, every piece of the action, yes there will be parts that need filling it at times I know. Like when the trainer is on etc, but if often becomes a case of I've started so I will finish. I also get mad when they keep giving out the channel and station your are listening on, well sorry I know that already, thats how I tuned in. Lets have people doing it, who will just give up all the action and none of the other rubbish Thats my rant over. I have to completely agree with you Dave. Last season I listened to Radio Devon commentary for any away games that I couldn't make and I have to admit Dave Thomas' attempt at commentary was annoying and terribly frustrating. You tune in to listen to THAT game, not the hundreds of previous games that he often refers back to. Yes whilst a few references are interesting, he seems to go overboard and tends to then miss out on interesting facts of the game he is supposed to be commenting on! Also, has anyone noticed that when you hear Exeter City's commentary on Radio Devon, often the 'clips' of the goals, the commenter's are so passionate and ecstatic when they score. You listen to our goal highlights and our commenter's tend to not usually get excited about the goals at all. The hype of the commentators makes for much more interesting airplay and it's always nice to hear them being passionate about their club. |
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Post by merse on Aug 16, 2008 15:51:40 GMT
You're totally missing the point as to DT's role. He's there as a summariser not a commentator...........I think your observations would be better applied to some of the so called "commentators" who keeps sidetracking into summarising. As for "hype" it's childish nonsense that appeals to the "Sun Reader" mentality, started in this country by the ridiculous Jonathon Pearce as some sort of poor man's Argentinian. In my opinion, a good commentator is like a good ref.................so good he gets you so engrossed in the game you forget he's there.
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Post by Dave on Aug 16, 2008 16:43:52 GMT
Not missing the point at all Merse, I know what role his is during a game. Its you who is missing the point. I simply want to hear what is happening on the pitch, that job is the commentator's role.
The summariser should do that,summariser, not go off on some past history lesson, while the game is still going on. Nothing wrong with a commentator, getting excited when we score, that as chipnicker1 said adds to the whole feel of the game.
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Post by tufc01 on Aug 16, 2008 20:23:15 GMT
You're totally missing the point as to DT's role. He's there as a summariser not a commentator...........I think your observations would be better applied to some of the so called "commentators" who keeps sidetracking into summarising. As for "hype" it's childish nonsense that appeals to the "[glow=Yellow,2,300]Sun Reader[/glow]" mentality, started in this country by the ridiculous Jonathon Pearce as some sort of poor man's Argentinian. In my opinion, a good commentator is like a good ref.................so good he gets you so engrossed in the game you forget he's there. being a 'sun reader' myself i also enjoy the Hype (or childish nonsense as you refer to it) when listening to a game. It creates more excitement and makes for a more interesting game. Obviously the 'less intelligent' sun readers are not in the same social class as the 'Times readers', so perhaps they need this extra stimulation!!!! Perhaps you would find it more in keeping if one was to read the teletext updates on the Queens good old BBC, how jolly nice!! That way you really could forget the commentator/summariser. |
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Post by merse on Aug 17, 2008 6:52:53 GMT
In my opinion, a good commentator is like a good ref.................so good he gets you so engrossed in the game you forget he's there. being a 'sun reader' myself i also enjoy the Hype (or childish nonsense as you refer to it) when listening to a game. It creates more excitement and makes for a more interesting game. I'm the one I want getting excited, NOT the news bearer who will only get it wrong in his over emotional state. Reading the Times or the Sun has nothing to do with IQ or "social class", it has to do with what quality of FACT one requires in order to inform oneself. After all, when a primary school falls down and burys hundreds of little children one hardly needs a pair of nubile tits staring out of page three does one? When Wayne Rooney's latest injury threatens his imminent availability for England, do we need to read the latest shopping acquisitions of his missus? One form is news bearing, the other is mere titillation..................I won't reveal on here how I get my titillation, suffice to say I don't get it reading the paper any more than I would get it if I was sitting in bed reading the damned thing at the same time either! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2008 8:44:34 GMT
You only have to listen to Gordon Sparks to know what a goal being scored should sound like on the radio. Lets have more action and less chit chat so we know what is going on out on the pitch.
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Post by merse on Aug 17, 2008 9:20:14 GMT
You only have to listen to Gordon Sparks to know what a goal being scored should sound like on the radio. Lets have more action and less chit chat so we know what is going on out on the pitch. He's so appalling I half expect a piece of pasty to come flying out of the speakers!  |
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BBC Radio Devon have rightfully come in for a lot of criticism over the poor quality of their match commentaries in the past, what with commentators getting their role confused with that as pundit etc.
