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Post by lambethgull on Dec 21, 2009 20:27:12 GMT
we might as well start fixing football matches. What are you on about Dave? How has the number one been 'fixed'? More people acquired the single, 'Killing in the Name' than acquired the X-factor winner’s song over the period that was measured. You might disagree with the reasons behind people acquiring the song, but it hasn't been fixed. X-factor winners are the Milton Keynes of music. |
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Post by jerry on Dec 21, 2009 20:30:00 GMT
when you do think about some of the songs that were Christmas number one's like the ones above, then the x factors songs really are not that bad are they? Not a fan of the X-Factor myself, but I am a big believer in people having their own taste and buying whatever they like without having "music snobs" looking down their noses at them! |
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Post by lambethgull on Dec 21, 2009 20:31:13 GMT
How many records do you have to sell nowadays to get to number one - less than a 1,000 I would have thought.  I think Rage sold over 500,000 and the X-Factor bloke about 450,000. Makes me laugh hearing all these people saying that they bought Rage to put one over on Simon Cowell! I would imagine that the X-Factor records sales went through the roof as it's fans tried to beat this campaign. Much the same as all that Jedward nonsense, all orchestrated by him to get more publicity for his show and more revenue from people voting for them because they thought it would annoy him! Simon Cowell, a very clever man who is laughing all the way to the bank once again! As for X-Factor ruining the Xmas number one... I guess people are talking about those great recent Xmas hits like Mr. Blobby and Bob the Builder? It's not so much Cowell but the bovine types who voted for the X-factor winner and then bought the record  |
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Post by lambethgull on Dec 21, 2009 20:35:01 GMT
when you do think about some of the songs that were Christmas number one's like the ones above, then the x factors songs really are not that bad are they? Not a fan of the X-Factor myself, but I am a big believer in people having their own taste and buying whatever they like without having "music snobs" looking down their noses at them! Who on here is against the right of anyone to listen or buy what they like? |
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Post by stewart on Dec 21, 2009 21:15:34 GMT
Not a fan of the X-Factor myself, but I am a big believer in people having their own taste and buying whatever they like without having "music snobs" looking down their noses at them! Who on here is against the right of anyone to listen or buy what they like? Of course, nobody can be denied the right to listen to whatever type of music they enjoy, but surely their insistence that their choice is superior to that of others can be questioned ? I can't say that I was very keen on the X-Factor song, although I'm convinced that the quality of Joe McElderry's singing voice will propel him to a very successful career when he is given the right material. The other song, however, is one of the worst I have heard, performed by a completely untalented group whose 'singer' can't sing, only shout and growl in an agressive manner. It's quite clear to me that this 'song' has been put forward by people who are tired of the over-hype and falseness of the X-Factor, which in itself is not an unpraiseworthy concept. The choice of the other 'song', though, has not been thought out properly at all. Surely they could have come up with a better 'blast from the past' than this horrendous rubbish. |
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Post by Rob on Dec 21, 2009 21:32:28 GMT
As for X-Factor ruining the Xmas number one... I guess people are talking about those great recent Xmas hits like Mr. Blobby and Bob the Builder? Didn't Iron Maiden's "Bring Your Daughter to the Slaughter" topple Cliff Richard one year. History repeating itself a bit. And yes, I'd agree there is often a pap number one at Christmas. |
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Post by lambethgull on Dec 21, 2009 21:37:45 GMT
Who on here is against the right of anyone to listen or buy what they like? Of course, nobody can be denied the right to listen to whatever type of music they enjoy, but surely their insistence that their choice is superior to that of others can be questioned ? I can't say that I was very keen on the X-Factor song, although I'm convinced that the quality of Joe McElderry's singing voice will propel him to a very successful career when he is given the right material. The other song, however, is one of the worst I have heard, performed by a completely untalented group whose 'singer' can't sing, only shout and growl in an agressive manner. It's quite clear to me that this 'song' has been put forward by people who are tired of the over-hype and falseness of the X-Factor, which in itself is not an unpraiseworthy concept. The choice of the other 'song', though, has not been thought out properly at all. Surely they could have come up with a better 'blast from the past' than this horrendous rubbish. It's not exactly Prokofiev or Stravinsky, agreed, but popular music has always been about something other than technical excellence or how pleasant a song sounds. That is the reason why the X-factor concept is so irritating to so many. |
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Post by jerry on Dec 21, 2009 21:54:04 GMT
Didn't Iron Maiden's "Bring Your Daughter to the Slaughter" topple Cliff Richard one year. History repeating itself a bit. And yes, I'd agree there is often a pap number one at Christmas. I think that was the week after Christmas. Maiden cleverly released their single in a week of traditionally low sales knowing their fan base would guarantee them a high chart placing. |
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Post by jerry on Dec 21, 2009 21:56:25 GMT
The choice of the other 'song', though, has not been thought out properly at all. Surely they could have come up with a better 'blast from the past' than this horrendous rubbish. Quite. I actually do like Rage and have had this album for years, but wouldn't it have been better to try to "hype" a Christmas song to number one? Fairytale of New York would have met with nearly everybodys approval. |
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Post by aussie on Dec 22, 2009 10:26:08 GMT
Rage are purely awesome and powerful, just the kind of kick in the arse music I prefer, like Megadeth, Metallica and Motorhead! Raw power, love it, like when you go to the drag races and watch and hear the fastest loudest cars win, Adrenalin music is GOOD!
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Post by stuartB on Dec 23, 2009 22:01:27 GMT
lol
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Post by Dave on Dec 23, 2009 22:09:02 GMT
Was funny, have embedded it for you, don't you know how to do it? ;D
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Post by stuartB on Dec 23, 2009 22:12:02 GMT
Was funny, have embedded it for you, don't you know how to do it? ;D sorry uncle Dave  |
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Post by aussie on Dec 24, 2009 9:23:48 GMT
Quality! Sheer genius and funny as feck! Love it! ;D
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Post by Rob on Dec 24, 2009 14:52:01 GMT
Didn't Iron Maiden's "Bring Your Daughter to the Slaughter" topple Cliff Richard one year. History repeating itself a bit. And yes, I'd agree there is often a pap number one at Christmas. I think that was the week after Christmas. Maiden cleverly released their single in a week of traditionally low sales knowing their fan base would guarantee them a high chart placing. Ah. Quite right, I see they released it on Xmas Eve 1990. |
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