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Jacko
Jun 26, 2009 19:15:36 GMT
Post by aussie on Jun 26, 2009 19:15:36 GMT
Who saw that coming, is he dead or has he done a dissapearing act with all that ticket money? Any other conspiracy theories?
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joebarlow
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Jacko
Jun 26, 2009 22:18:38 GMT
Post by joebarlow on Jun 26, 2009 22:18:38 GMT
Sadly he passed away last night. I was watching Sky News last night at 11pm and was wopndeirng if this is another media rumour about him. He was a great singer and dancer and was and still is king of pop.
He had a complicated life and had many devoted fans who would dfened him to the hilt. There was one reporter who said that when Micheal Jackson was going through the media turnmill, he The reporter) was outside Micheal Jackson home and fans were pelting him and the other reporters with bottles of water and dounets and anything they can get thier hands on.
I think that the media had a lot to do with Micheal`s death as the amount of stories, abuse, disgraceful stories about jackson that appeared surly heaped stress and Micheal and deserved to be pelted with everything.
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Dave
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Jun 26, 2009 22:51:24 GMT
Post by Dave on Jun 26, 2009 22:51:24 GMT
My Thoughts On Michael Jackson
They say you will always remember where you were at the time you heard the news someone famous died, it will not be hard for me in Michael Jackson’s case, as it was the 5.30am news on in my car as I got to the gate to the yard where Toolfix is.
What I did not understand this morning was why the news did not seem to hit me very hard, did not have the emotional impact such news normally does on me, that was to change many hours later when I watched a programme at 8pm on the TV.
The funny thing is I do remember the very first time I heard the Jackson’s sing and so much about that very day in 1968. I did not get to listen to a lot of music in those days, but anyway at the age of nine the Beatles were charting with their very first hits and I was only interested in listening to them.
I’ll never forget the day my mum came home from Newton market with four postcard size framed pictures of the Beatles in black and while, they were to take pride and place on my bedroom wall. I had never bought a record, well I had nothing to play one on, there was the record player in the front room, I say record player but they were know as sterograms and ours was very posh, made in solid wood and on legs and must have been nearly five foot long.
There was no way my mother would let me use it, but at the age of 14 years old someone gave me a record player that was in a case, very small and if you wanted to play an LP you had to take the lid off to do so. All I needed was a record to play on it and so I walked into town from Buckland.
There was a second hand shop on the same side of the fish and chip shop merse has talked about in Union Street, soon I was going through a box of second hand records. The thing was I did not know any of the titles, but settled on one that said it was written by Lennon and McCartney, performed by a group called the Fourmost, the title was Hello Little Girl.
I raced home to play my new record and was 5d worse off, but I was hoping I would like the record, got home only to find I had a problem. I had not noticed the record had a big hole in the middle; it must have come out of a jukebox. My mother was in the kitchen and so I sneaked into the front room and pulled out one of her records.
I broke out the middle and was soon back up in my room trying to fix the middle from my mother’s record with sellotape to the middle of my record. It sort of worked and the record had a real early 60’s Beatle sound to it and I soon learnt all the words.
Only later that night I was soon to forget Hello Little Girl, you see my brother who I shared a room with had a radio and got it tuned into radio Luxemburg, a pirate station I believe, but they played all the top hits on it. Then I heard for the first time a Jackson record ABC and knew that was the sound I really liked.
Mind you a month later I found myself locked in the under stairs cupboard for three hours as my mother discovered the middle missing from her Moon River record, its no wonder I’m claustrophobic.
So back to today, well I’ll be 100 % honest and say as the day wore on with the constant news all day long on Michael Jackson I grew a bit tired of hearing it. I did listen to the J.Vine show, but he went on more about the abuse Jackson got as a child from his father and then went on about the Peter Pan side of Jackson and claimed it was the reasons he made friends with children better than adults.
It was good to hear so many of his records, I did enjoy that part of the day, but when I watched the TV programme, it came back just how great he was at his very best. What a superstar, what a singer, dancer and performer, I don’t think anyone has or will ever come close to Jackson at his very best.
I do think for me he somehow lost just some of the magic, maybe it was the Waco Jako years that did it, I do feel its such a shame for him he went through that period of his life, I wish he could have just stayed the Michael Jackson who did that moonwalk for the first time.
The thing about all stars is we never know them, we only know what we see on the stage or TV, we may think we know the person because of something we read in a newspaper, but the truth is unless we spent time with that person we will simply never know who they really are or how they think or how happy or sad they are.
It must be hard when you got to the very top and produced the very best stage shows ever, to know you may never get there again, for some the fact they got there in the first place would be good enough, but Jackson I believe always wanted to go one bigger and better if he could.
I think my sadness I now feel is because of the way his life has ended, much like Elvis died before he should have and not maybe the way I would have liked to rememberd him, I think I’ll just keep the Jackson I knew and loved around the time he did the Thriller Album.
Maybe tomorrow it will sink home more and I’ll have the tears I expected to have this morning, the ones that flowed so easily the day Princess Diana died,I sure will never forget that day and where I was when I found out. I was doing a show in a large hotel, only the three coach loads had only arrived that day.
Due to a wedding over running the hungry and tired guests after their long journey to Devon, found out they could not have their evening meal until 8pm, nearly two hours late. I had been asked if I could now start later and play on much later, well yes I would but only at a price.
By the time they came into the main bar after their very late meal, they were all very bad tempered and it sure was a hard night’s work for me. I did something that was always a part of my act, but that night turned out to be the very last night I ever did, it was dropped the very next day at the hotel I was at that night.
Part way through the first half of the show I would look for a blonde haired lady, so many at that time had their hair done the way Diana had hers done, so it was never to hard to find a look alike. I would walk up to the one I had picked and would pretend she was Diana and then would ask if I could sing her a song.
As I walked back to my keyboards I would turn and say that she must not listen to the first lines of the song as I had not written the song or the words. The song was Diana by Paul Anker and the first lines were “I’m so young and you’re so old”, it always got a big laugh.
Due to the late start the show finished very late and Carol and I got home in the early hours of the morning, we got all the gear put away and Carol went and made a bedtime drink, while I put the TV on.
He had our drink but both fell asleep on the front room floor with the TV still on, then for some reason I woke up as the very first report came in about the crash, it had not long happened and it was unfolding before my eyes.
A night to remember at that hotel sure made me never forget where and how I found about Diana’s death, but I’m sure I also will never forget today and how I have felt for most of it. Because it is very sad and we have lost a real talented genius and they only come once in your lifetime.
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Jacko
Jun 27, 2009 7:22:32 GMT
Post by merse on Jun 27, 2009 7:22:32 GMT
The thing about all stars is we never know them, we only know what we see on the stage or TV, we may think we know the person because of something we read in a newspaper, but the truth is unless we spent time with that person we will simply never know who they really are or how they think or how happy or sad they are. Never a truer point made,and something ALL people who patronise rubbish like The Sun and Daily Star and will be extending their normal thirty second attention span to something approaching an earth shattering five minutes, need to be taking on board at this time. Jim emphasised the point on the Traveller Thread that to be different is to be mistrusted and often despised in our society, This was certainly the case with Michael Jackson.....................do we really know what the REAL Michael was like? Did he ever have the chance to be a normal human being? I don't think so and certainly this child prodigee was denied his childhood by his fiercely demanding and intimidating father and the end product morphosised into the freak we used to see on TV in much the same manner that Mozart was presented to the public two centuries ago. Michael's wealth enabled him to create his own childhood as an adult. Driven along by those who depended on him for their gravy, abused by those who knew that the day he died would be the day their meal ticket disappeared. An exceptional, unique and brilliant performer living out his life probably in great fear and panic that all he had worked for was lost and that he was under pressure to continue being that meal ticket, rather like the father on whom a young family depend who has to come to terms with losing his job, his home and their security. Yes we all had our Michael Jackson jokes and I loved to jibe that he had gone from being a black man to a white woman and question whether anyone had ever seen both him and Cherie Blair in the same room, but in all seriousness his appearance, reclusiveness and apparently pathetic, naive attitude related more to a person suffering a two decade long nervous breakdown than anyone with a hint of malice in them. Danny Baker was talking on BBC London yesterday of his experience interviewing him 25 years ago and how he realised that the guy couldn't even trust his own brothers and sisters and how much he appeared taken aback by the very genuine and down to earth observations of Baker because he just wasn't used to anything other than sycophancy.....................what a tragedy and what a shame that all that wealth only brought him superficial "happiness" and much apparent misery and panic that undoubtedly contributed to his premature death. The constellation of entertainment lost a star yesterday...................and we all watched it go out! R.I.P.
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