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Post by merse on Feb 7, 2009 21:06:50 GMT
To put all this whingeing from Dave and Aussie about cold weather spectating in perspective, we've had a great day at freezing Kempton Park; Bijou the kids and I together with Capital Gull - we wrapped up warm, stayed off the cold beer and enjoyed our hot drinks and food and had a whale of a time. It's history now that my "Golden Anniversary as a Gull" trip to Barrow fell foul of the weather and that the fiftieth birthday passed without a ball being kicked in anger by my heroes mattered not a jot as we "oohed and aahed" the afternoon away as our fluctuating fortunes unfolded. I should have foreseen later misfortune when my very first selection - Tinagoodnight 3/1 (fav) -declined to let her jockey ride her to post so that she had to be trotted down (no easy thing over a quarter of a mile in riding boots) and then not only stubbornly refused to start with the rest but to add insult to injury subjected her wretched pilot to the same trotting indignity back to the unsaddling enclosure................. Merse 0 - Bookies 1. Maybe Tinagoodnight was the filling for the excellent burgers we comforted ourselves with later! A nice 3/1 winner in the second got me ahead of the bookies and ensured that I would be "betting with their money" for a little while - good old Pancake (3/1) has rarely let me down in her four year racing career and wasn't about to do so today. Nothing out of the ordinary in the third, but no luck either and then it was the turn of the fourth race to give me a portent of the frustrations to come when I declined to back my selection of Bally Conn with hard earned dosh due to the skinny 7/4 (fav) on offer. I decided to sit this one out only to see it romp home- oh well. I wasn't about to back the legendary (but emminently beatable today) Denman in race 5 at 8/11 but my 11/2 choice Joe Lively became "Joecommatose" half way round and my "profits" had now become a fiver loss. Then it all went tits up. Why spend upwards of a couple of hours studying form and reading recent race reports I have to ask myself, when I eschew my long studied selection at the last knockings in the betting ring and back the favourite Lightening Strike (11/4) who proves less than lightening like and loses out to my original choice Tartak at 7/2. Now at this point I will point out that the missus' idea of a day at the races in the middle of winter is in fact a day at the races in the warmth of the betting hall (she never ventured out for one single race today, nor a look at the parade ring either; opting simply to peruse procedings with hundreds of other fair weather fans on the big screens indoors and use me as her bookies runner via the mobile - Imagine my surprise then that she had a grin as wide as her sister's arse on my return informing me that she had "picked up" a nice little earner on said Tartak on the Tote! Not content with being a tit once, I only went and compounded my frustration when I repeated the folly in the seventh by putting a lump on 6/4 favourite Pretty Star smugly congratulating myself with getting a whopping 13/8 over the odds price only to see it lose by a neck to my overnight selection Strawberry who led from start to finish. A rapid calculation informed me that in the course of thirty minutes I had chucked away projected winnings of a couple of hundred quid changing my mind and so I contented myself with the investment in a hot coffee for the last race rather than a betting slip. That's the trouble with getting old..............one thing is you tend to forget your original selections and the other is (?) you tend to forget your original selections! Postscript: Capitalgull and I came out with modest losses whilst only the " 'er indoors betting hall expert" came home in the black!
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Post by capitalgull on Feb 7, 2009 22:10:08 GMT
Sad postscript Merse - Joe Lively injured a tendon during the race and is unlikely to run again much before Christmas 2009. Makes it all the more amazing that he had the guts to run on again at the end of the race to take fifth placed prize-money.
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Post by Dave on Feb 8, 2009 0:07:00 GMT
I would hardly call putting forward a very reasonable argument and one that in my view, contained some good points, whingeing. As someone who has spent most of his life working outside, I consider myself to be a hardy sort of person, who by the way does not feel the cold as much as many I know.
Its good to see one half of the merse partnership has good sense and not only stayed indoors out of the cold, but had even better sense to pick winning horses and not the duffers you keep throwing your money away on. Still the more sensible people learned along time ago that in the end the bookies always win and thats why they drive and own far betters cars than you ever will Merse. What do they say? yes I remember, a fool and his money soon go separate ways, ring any bells merse.
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Post by merse on Feb 8, 2009 9:57:28 GMT
Its good to see one half of the merse partnership has good sense and not only stayed indoors out of the cold, but had even better sense to pick winning horses and not the duffers you keep throwing your money away on. Still the more sensible people learned along time ago that in the end the bookies always win and thats why they drive and own far betters cars than you ever will Merse. What do they say? yes I remember, a fool and his money soon go separate ways, ring any bells merse. By your reasoning, anytime you paid to go into a football match the money would be wasted unless your team won. It's a sporting event I'm enjoying, not running a business. It's not at all like that of course and neither is it going racing. Certainly from my point of view, my "betting pot" is the very finite amount I have put away in cash BEFORE I get there. It's cash I already have, not some credit card account that is going to bring the bailiffs round knocking at the door. Once it's gone, it's gone; it's no different than going out for a meal and saying you'll put an upwards limit of fifty quid on your bill and ordering accordingly. It's no different than spending money in the Gulls Shop or on a Fifty Fifty ticket, and as for cold weather - if you went for a walk on Dartmoor would you prefer to get out in the wind and rain or sit in the car like some molly coddled old Doris? Kempton offers some of the very best of facilities in the game and admission a mere £15 for each of us as we're members of the Racegoers Club entitling us to a £3 discount off entry at most meetings around the country................that worked out at less than £2 a race yesterday. So for my missus watching indoors was little different than enjoying a sponsor's box at Plainmoor, whilst I prefer to out on the "Popside" Just like football, if my eventual losing choice has put up a good fight and thrilled me I've enjoyed the spectacle and the excitement.....................a "Rocking Horse" impersonation like Tinagoodnight's has only happened to one of my selections once before as far as I can recall and it all goes into the book full of memories we take to the grave - rather like the race at Newton Abbot one day when all four horses managed to stop and there wasn't a single runner left for a little while until one got going again ....................and I drive a very nice car that somebody else paid for and stands the daily de-valuation thankyou!
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Post by Dave on Feb 8, 2009 10:12:25 GMT
if you went for a walk on Dartmoor would you prefer to get out in the wind and rain or sit in the car like some molly coddled old Doris? To answer your question I will post a picture, Carol and I walked up to this place in the coldest and most driving rain we have walked in, so no we do not sit in our car, if we have gone to see or do something we do it.
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Post by merse on Feb 8, 2009 10:20:49 GMT
How I'd love to superimpose a license disc in the bottom left hand corner of that photo Dave! You can't beat feeling the wind and rain on your face, and wrapping up so that it is only your face that feels it.
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Post by Dave on Feb 8, 2009 10:44:57 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2009 22:46:36 GMT
Picking up another thread, visiting places like Abbotsbury in the summer....watching cricket....minimalising the risk of Seasonal Affective Disorder. Sorry to sound selfish but that's three good personal reasons for preferring winter football. As for Saturday, like Merse I had a satisfactory day spectating in the cold in rather unexpected surroundings. Having caught the 0743 from Exeter St Davids on Friday morning I suffered a few minor delays - mainly around Cheltenham - before taking another train north from Birmingham to arrive at the excellent Ashdown Hotel in Preston (come out of the station and turn left down the hill) at 1300 as planned. Plenty of snow falling around Bristol, earlier falls still on the ground until Crewe and nothing by Warrington. Sunny, cold and crisp - just right. No snow all weekend and a smooth journey home today. With Plan A knocked to oblivion - as I passed through Stafford - the search began for an alternative after reasoning there's always another match somewhere. As it happens I could have made for the Furness peninsula on Saturday morning, as originally intended, to catch a game at either Vickerstown or Furness Cavaliers. Vickerstown could only manage a 4-4 home draw against Charnock Richard - maybe they're better when the ground is under water? (think about it!). But, wanting something upmarket for a change, the real choice was between Everton or Blackburn (both of which would have been a walk down Memory Lane for me) or a trip to a ground new to me - namely the City of Manchester Stadium (or Eastlands if you prefer). A few hurried texts to a man with a computer - thanks Phil - to check prices and availability and I was soon on the phone to Manchester City. Apparently I could only order tickets in advance by becoming some sort of member so, by 2pm on Friday, I'd signed up to a deal which guarantees me masses of emails from the Richest Club in the World. Arriving at the stadium on Saturday morning I expected to collect a ticket. Instead I was given a swipe card and a slip of paper with details of my seat. Wave it in front of the electronic reader at Entrance G and you're inside without having to deal with anyone as 20th century as a common turnstile operator. Here's the card minus key details to prevent identity theft (why anybody would want the identity of a 53-year-old Torquay United supporter baffles me anyway): Waiting for the gates to open I got into conversation with a 73-year-old former print worker from Stockport. Conversation? It was a monologue: "Have you a tractor and trailer? Because if you have we could make three million quid knocking that bloody thing down. That's more than it cost to put it up. We could split the three million, you and me. So have you got one? A tractor? What a bloody waste. They could have put a medical centre there instead. Too much bloody rubbish in this country these days. It's all a bloody waste. And it's not much good here either. This bloke, the manager, he's got no idea. If it weren't for that Robinho fellow we'd be bottom. Bottom of the league. That Dunne's slow. The forward can be a yard behind him and he'll do him every time. And that Petrov has gone to pieces. Burnt himself out against Blackburn. Finished. I used to be at Bowater's you know. All gone. Brenda Dean started that by getting equal pay for women. That buggered it. All the jobs have gone to China, haven't they? And that Credit Crunch. It all started with jobs going to China from Sacramento. We're doomed you know. Doomed." Fortunately at that point the gates opened and I was swiping my card with the best of them. As for that "bloody thing" he meant B of the Bang : As for the stadium I was impressed. Rather more style than some of the other new ones. Halfway line view - high in the Gods - for £24.50 (Middlesbrough must in Category ZZ when it comes to ticket prices). A good view for a one-off treat but - as somebody has said on here - it's not the same without being able to see their facial expressions. A reasonable game - I enjoyed it - and I was impressed by City's foreigners: Bellamy, Ireland, Given..... But, once again in palatial surroundings, a quiet almost passionless crowd. I'm sure the same people wouldn't be like that on a lower division terrace but, once inside the opera house, they're docile. Nonetheless I enjoyed one understated comment after a flash of brilliance from Robinho: "that's better, City!".Watchable but not so dramatic or as emotional as when I saw City play Boro at Maine Road donkeys years ago. League Cup semi-final - the season City last won a major trophy - 1-0 down from the first leg. A lively night on the Kippax and here's some shots from the 15p programme: Francis Lee was long gone from Maine Road by then but yesterday's programme - a 100 page booklet (with a proper spine) which, I have to say, was damn good value for £3 - carried a feature about Lee's record from the spot in 1971/72 - 15 in total (13 league, 2 cup). Seven of the penalties had been awarded for fouls on the man himself. They didn't call him Lee Won Pen for nothing.
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Post by Jon on Feb 8, 2009 22:55:11 GMT
Having caught the 0743 from Exeter St Davids on Friday morning I suffered a few minor delays - mainly around Cheltenham - before taking another train north from Birmingham to arrive at the excellent Ashdown Hotel in Preston (come out of the station and turn left down the hill) at 1300 as planned. Plenty of snow falling around Bristol, earlier falls still on the ground until Crewe and nothing by Warrington. Sunny, cold and crisp - just right. No snow all weekend and a smooth journey home today. With Plan A knocked to oblivion - as I passed through Stafford - the search began for an alternative after reasoning there's always another match somewhere. As it happens I could have made for the Furness peninsula on Saturday morning, as originally intended, to catch a game at either Vickerstown or Furness Cavaliers. Vickerstown could only manage a 4-4 home draw against Charnock Richard - maybe they're better when the ground is under water? (think about it!). So Barton managed to make his way to Barrow by train and pitches in the Barrow area were playable. Using Merse's logic, we should be thrown out of the League for our unprofessionalism in failing to fulfill the fixture!
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Post by merse on Feb 9, 2009 3:41:56 GMT
So Barton managed to make his way to Barrow by train and pitches in the Barrow area were playable. Using Merse's logic, we should be thrown out of the League for our unprofessionalism in failing to fulfill the fixture! "Some pitches in the Barrow" area does not mean the one we were due to play on does it? Were they as rutted after a midweek game as Holker Street? Do they suffer from shadow from any stand roofs? Are they as far from the sea and thus a milder micro climate? "According to Merse's logic", Weymouth made no attempt to travel to a perfectly playable pitch but whinnied about getting home, Barrow on Saturday was an entirely different entity. I'm not being dismissive of getting stuck in snow either having once spent a night at the foot of a Dartmoor Hill with only a Devon General bus for company and also getting stuck at the bottom of the Gordano climb on the M5 the evening my first daughter was born 90 miles away in Torbay Hospital! By the way, whenever Telegraph/Haldon Hill is impassable these days is there some sort of embargo on going via the Starcross, Exminster Road to Exeter from Torbay, or was that under a deluge of snow too?
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Post by Dave on Feb 9, 2009 6:25:53 GMT
Merse the Teignmouth Road was closed as was the road from Newton Abbot to Teignmouth, the snow does not only fall on telegraph Hill you know, it comes down in other places as well.
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Post by merse on Feb 9, 2009 15:05:56 GMT
Merse the Teignmouth Road was closed as was the road from Newton Abbot to Teignmouth, the snow does not only fall on telegraph Hill you know, it comes down in other places as well. I was aware that route was closed, that's why I asked the question about an "embargo" - I wanted to know whether it too was impassable due to snow and ice or made unavailable by the Nazi Style D&C Constabulary.................just the sort of thing they would do following on from the logic of shutting pubs when their is an optimum need for them, and making parking unavailable around a football ground on a match day when it is plentiful whenever the ground is not in use.
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