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Post by mickyflash on Jul 12, 2008 12:03:25 GMT
Some good points Mickey, but the point is Paul said he would have the answer last Monday and has said nothing since. I was not trying to suggest that we need to know all the player dealings etc and know the reasons, why somethings need to be kept under the hat. I just feel that the club needs to have certain people more in the public eye and need to keep the fans as up to date as possible. Thats a fair comment, I suppose I was just a little Irate at suggestions that the old regimes had a better rap-or with the fans when I honestly cant remember much more Information coming out under Bateson/Roberts at this time of year. Would it be fair to say that PB has made a rod for his own back by trying to give us Information and telling us we would know something last Monday? Having re-read the posts this morning I think maybe I was focusing on the wrong points. There is always room for Improvements In any club and would be great to see a PR guy from the club giving more Interviews to the Herald and as Ant (I think!) says, I would love to the Website Editor down the training ground and getting more Interviews from players Does anyone know if the Website Editor position is a paid job or is it a Volunteer? |
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Post by Dave on Jul 12, 2008 12:58:08 GMT
Micky, I think the point I was really trying to get across, was that I think the club, should have Alex as more of a figurehead. I fully understand the need to keep somethings out of the public domain, but would like to see and hear more from our chairman.
Simply because I look up to him as the head of our ship and every captain, should be seen to be leading his men, if that makes sense, in this case.
I was not trying to suggest, that Bateson ever gave us more news etc, but he was very much in the forefront.
Ant is correct in saying how well our club is run and we must hope that they will be around for a very long time, as they are first and foremost TUAFC fans.
Soon we will all be discussing the games etc and moving on from these sort of debates, but it does the club no harm to hear our views and I'm sure in time they will act on them.
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Post by badgertqy on Jul 12, 2008 14:13:58 GMT
Last season we had two fans forums, one shortly after the consortium take-over which helped to settle everyone down and another after a few weeks of the season. The second was a strange affair, the sun was shining, the team was unbeaten and Paul Buckle was not asked a single football question.
It would have been nice if they club could have organised a forum later on in the season when a few concerns/queries had become apparent: The problems at Bath City, the Rayner situation, Boxing Day derby tickets and Stuart James' tapping up accusations in the Western Morning News were among things never really publically addressed by the club.
Regular (bi-annual?) forums and a Q&A section on the website would go a long way towards alleviating the frustration of fans. On the whole the changes since the takeover have been excellent and there is obviously priveledged information that needs to be kept in-house but a little more communication would be appreciated.
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Post by Dave on Jul 12, 2008 14:42:06 GMT
Yes the forum held by Mr Richardson, was very important at the time, as so many fans very very concerned about the goings on about Roberts. It sure did settle down a lot of fans and gave them hope again.
A fans forum would go along way to help bridge any gaps, fans may feel, it also makes the fans seem closer to the club, because they would have the important men with them in the same room and could get their views known.
I hope they will consider holding one, it will be good for the fans and the club will benefit from the real feedback and not what they may read on a fans forum.
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Post by Dave on Jul 12, 2008 18:42:22 GMT
All I'm saying is Alex needs to get his face in the paper a bit more, let the fans see him as the chairman and not just a name in a program, as the top man really he needs to show he is leading and then many will follow. One of the criticisms of both Bateson and Roberts was that it sometimes felt as if they enjoyed having their faces on the TV or in the papers too much - to the extent that it seemed as if one of their main reasons for being involved was to boost their own egos. I find it quite refreshing that the consortium are quite low-key in their profile because it just underlines that their motives are to work hard for the benefit OUR club, nothing other than that. I think they also may feel that if you "milk the honeymoon period" too much, you put yourself right in the firing line when things do go wrong - and although the long term trajectory is up there will be a few downturns along the way. I know that the 60s, 70s and 80s was a different and not so news-hungry age, but I can't remember Tony Boyce hogging centre stage too much. I am sure he is very much a role model for Alex Rowe - and a good choice of role model in my eyes. It is true that during the time between the 60s and 80s we were not news hungry, in fact you only went to a game and got some news if you were luckily in the Herald Express, during the week. But times have changed and most now have a thirst for knowledge and maybe the attitude should be to keep in line with the times. It was good to see today the club website, giving news at halftime and having some photo's of the warm up. No I would not like to see Alex, trying to play the Bateson or Roberts role, but I still believe, he needs to address the fans more often. |
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Post by Dave on Jul 13, 2008 10:39:55 GMT
Maybe Sean is correct and the club does read the fans forums. Or maybe he was about to give the fans an update.
I feel its fine to criticize, if one feels it is due, but you must be prepared to give praise as well. So well done to Paul and the club, for giving updates yesterday on .com. It really does help fans to hear things from the club.
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Post by merse on Jul 13, 2008 20:58:20 GMT
 Having been away for the weekend, and needing to get to bed now; I've been scrolling and would just like to add my two penneth worth on this thread........................ 1- I think Bateson had too much to say on too little and it was often a case of quantity over quality. 2- I also believe that the role of website editor is carried out by a volunteer, and who are we to criticise the amount of input a volunteer is able to put in - I'm sure he commits as much time as he can to the job. 3- I think it is a definite no no condemning the manager for keeping his cards close to his chest over possible signings, especially in this day and age when there are a whole host of agents out there scrutinising club sites in an attempt to glean any info on players on the move to see if they can step in at the last moment and gain something of an advantage for themselves, their clients (be it players or managers) even actual clubs attempting to steal in at the last minute. Let the pro's get on with the job in a quiet and efficient manner, and I'm sure we will all enjoy the end product.
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Post by mickyflash on Jul 13, 2008 21:10:05 GMT
Having been away for the weekend, and needing to get to bed now; I've been scrolling and would just like to add my two penneth worth on this thread........................ 1- I think Bateson had too much to say on too little and it was often a case of quantity over quality. 2- I also believe that the role of website editor is carried out by a volunteer, and who are we to criticise the amount of input a volunteer is able to put in - I'm sure he commits as much time as he can to the job.3- I think it is a definite no no condemning the manager for keeping his cards close to his chest over possible signings, especially in this day and age when there are a whole host of agents out there scrutinising club sites in an attempt to glean any info on players on the move to see if they can step in at the last moment and gain something of an advantage for themselves, their clients (be it players or managers) even actual clubs attempting to steal in at the last minute. Let the pro's get on with the job in a quiet and efficient manner, and I'm sure we will all enjoy the end product. I thought it was a volunteer position but wasn't sure, I am in complete agreement with you here. BTW does anyone know how much the Newton Friendly is going to cost, and I take it it's at coach road and not the other one? If only there was more information on .com eh ! ;D |
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Post by Dave on Jul 13, 2008 21:17:40 GMT
agree with most of that Merse, but not about the website editor.
It does not take a great deal of time to update the latest news on a site.
I know how much time I have to put in running the forum and its hours and hours more than I would need to keep a website up to date.
Yes there will be things that will need to be kept close to the chest, but yesterday showed, that .com can do it if wants too.
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Post by tufc01 on Jul 13, 2008 21:35:41 GMT
Having been away for the weekend, and needing to get to bed now; I've been scrolling and would just like to add my two penneth worth on this thread........................ 1- I think Bateson had too much to say on too little and it was often a case of quantity over quality. 2- I also believe that the role of website editor is carried out by a volunteer, and who are we to criticise the amount of input a volunteer is able to put in - I'm sure he commits as much time as he can to the job.3- I think it is a definite no no condemning the manager for keeping his cards close to his chest over possible signings, especially in this day and age when there are a whole host of agents out there scrutinising club sites in an attempt to glean any info on players on the move to see if they can step in at the last moment and gain something of an advantage for themselves, their clients (be it players or managers) even actual clubs attempting to steal in at the last minute. Let the pro's get on with the job in a quiet and efficient manner, and I'm sure we will all enjoy the end product. I thought it was a volunteer position but wasn't sure, I am in complete agreement with you here. [glow=red,2,300]BTW does anyone know how much the Newton Friendly is going to cost, and I take it it's at coach road and not the other one?[/glow] If only there was more information on .com eh ! ;D Yes it is the coach road pitch. It cost me £5 last year, but dont they have a bit of a financial problem?? Could see them hike the price a bit to cash in?  ? Parking might be the problem, especailly if a big turn out. |
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Post by witneygull on Jul 15, 2008 12:03:46 GMT
The "Official" website is a dreadful, if you managed to find the useful information hidden among the blanket advertising for gambling, holidays and sky (Which often appears half way through the story you are tring to read), you then find the GullsWorld banner telling that we drew with Hereford at home on the 5th May 2007.
It comes to something when you stop going there for the latest news, as you probably read it 2 days earlier on here, dotNet or the HE online.
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Post by Dave on Jul 15, 2008 12:14:19 GMT
I think we all felt, that once the new .com was set up, it was going to be so much better. Sadly it has not been the case, it should be the first place fans go to get news, after all the club should know it before others get to hear about it.
Some will say, that its not important, what happens with the team building, pitch, and everything else the club has to deal with, is all that really counts.
The point of the thread was, that the club is still failing in an area, that the fans feel is very important to them. It needs attention and I'm sure there would be someone who would love to keep the .com site up to date. Lets hope that it is something they will look at and deal with soon.
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Post by midlandstufc on Jul 15, 2008 15:26:45 GMT
So true Dave.
I keep reading that Poke has signed for the season and each time, due to my denseness, get excited until I see the date.
However, I think the problems is that the site is 'hosted' and not bespoke TUFC. I could be wrong.
It definately needs to be fan-based rather than a commercial enterprise.
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Having been away for the weekend, and needing to get to bed now; I've been scrolling and would just like to add my two penneth worth on this thread........................ 
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