Two seasons in the Conference

In one way I think it would be best for it to be debated now. Surely whether he is a good manager or bad manager should not depend on 2, hopefully 3, more matches. Surely he cant become a bad manager if we don’t beat Histon, or if we lose a one off match in the final??

I’d like to nail my colours to the mast right now, before any play off matches. I would very much like to see Paul Buckle as manager of Torquay United for at least another season, Two more if we get promoted. Have we not learnt from the Robertson era, how unstable the club becomes with the changing of managers? The players are the same, look how uncommitted some of the players were/became? As good a business deal as it turned out, I thought Jamie Wards attitude stank and he wasn’t the only one.

Look at where we were 2 seasons ago, compared with now?? Actually there is no comparison.

You mention all of his mistakes, please enlighten us with all of those mistakes. I will start the ball rolling. Team selection away to Kettering, big mistake with the starting 11 (in his defence changing the team would have meant breaking up a team on a winning run), however he made the changes in the second half and we were the much better team. He also picked a different team for the home game and we won 2-0.

Which brings me onto another point that some people keep going on about, his supposed lack of a plan B. This one doesn’t sit with me at all.
So no Plan B then? Yet on the final day of the season and the most important game so far and what does he do? He changes the team and selects Danny Stevens and Elliot Benyon, both of whom had excellent games, then on 75 minutes he takes off the industrious Benyon and replaces him with Sturrock, perfect for holding the ball up and keeping possession. For me Mansell may well have been Player of the match on Sunday, but Paul Buckle was UNDOUBTEDLY Man of the Match. He nailed it.

Evidence of the spending power is another issue I have. It keeps getting trotted out how we have the most to spend or spend the most or have the biggest budget, but where is the evidence of this, hard evidence? Or is it just hearsay? Or surmising on the part of the poster?

Another ‘reason’ batted around is the ‘quality of the conference’, whilst I agree that there are some teams at the bottom who are woeful and 1 or 2 that are just a plain disgrace, however the top half is different. The ‘evidence’ here is that the two teams promoted last season are doing rather well this season and how many teams that have been promoted have come back down? I would say there is more evidence to suggest that this is a stronger league than it is made out to be.

Yes he has had two seasons, but look at those two seasons 2 play-offs and an FA Trophy final, you cant really ask for more than that can you? Not when this time 2 years ago we were fearing for our very existence.

In those two season he has moulded a squad capable of winning promotion and who I believe would be more than capable of a mid table finish in League 2. Both him and the squad are unfinished business but its getting there and will get there far far quicker than if we go down the road of getting a new manager.

Which leads me onto my next point, it’s a question I have asked before and will keep doing it, although these questions are NOT addressed to you personally Enzo just generically to those who wish to answer them.

If you guys believe that Buckle should go or is not the right man for the job (which is your way or saying he should go), then who do you believe is the right man for the job and is that person available/willing to come down to manage us? Second question, what are your actual reasons for wanting him to be disposed of? I’m sorry but you are going have to lay them down for me in Black and White because for the life of me I can not understand the logic/reasoning behind wanting Buckle out, other than for the reason of just not liking him.

This is what I want from a manager of our club; Continuity, Success/Good results, Passion, Discipline, Single mindedness in providing for what is best for the club. Paul Buckle ticks all of these boxes, in my opinion, and I firmly believe there is more to come from him, if we can just let him get on with the job. He, and the board, have put together a good infrastructure to enable us to build on and move forward, it’s a shame that some don’t appreciate this or are seemingly looking rock the boat all of the time.

Now I am all for debating, however for me to debate the reasons why some people think he should go I need to have some points to debate. Failing to get us out of this ‘tin pot’ league is a lazy argument to use.

Fantastic post Dave and you really summed the current strange lovers of negativity that appear to enjoy posting on the HE site when things go wrong.
It is very strange the lack of postings when we do well.
I have only 2 questions: 1/ who do Enzo, Alpine and our returning mate Dave want as Manager?
2/ Whoever is organising the coach travel on monday stick Enzo and Alpine in a vehicle on there own.......... ;D ;D ;D...then again they probably arent travelling.....they will be busy on there poisoned keyboards!!!!!

Keep the faith with the Team, Board and Paul Buckle

Thanks for your time

Quite right. As merse alluded to, Wilder will still be sore after what happened to Halifax, and he of course is the Manager of a team deducted 5 points. Failing to register players does not show the Conference participants in a good light, although in Mansfield and Oxford, it is "bigger" Clubs than ours - though presently less successful - who have been the most guilty over the season.

There are always 4 or 5 sides in this League who you would be genuinely aggrieved not to beat, but the top 7, at any given time, are more than a match for those competing in the League above.

I have absolutely no idea about our playing budget, though as mentioned before I doubt it outstrips Wrexham, Oxford, Rushden et al., and Buckle's boys are the ones in the play-offs.

He has been a good Manager. The points tally does not lie.

You've not really got this forum thing have you!

I'll be over the moon when we get to wembley. I don't travel the distance I do to games hoping that we lose. Read my posts over this season - a general mixture of postive and negative. I won't be saying I told you so should we lose, but I may well comment on where I think things went wrong - if that is ok with you buddy. I support the team as best I can and have done for years. I just have a different opinion to you, and many others on here about Paul Buckle. I thought Forums thrived on differing views. It is a shame that any potential for reasoned debate must have dribbled down your fathers leg Aussie.

My opinion won't change on PB whether we get promoted or not. The same way my opinion of Steve Maclaren would not have changed had England sneaked a draw against Croatia and qualified for the Euros.

To the more reasoned responses, I'll happily bring this topic back up sometime - I just don't have the time or to be honest inclination at this time to take you up on the valid points you raise. Hopefully your points will be even more valid after we clinch promotion.

aussie, what a load of bollox. You are typical of the "thought police", "2 legs good 4 legs bad" types on here.

I probably won't be able to get on line tomorrow night cos i'm in Koh Samui with no wi fi coverage. So i just want to put on record for lemmings. C'MON !!! Set us up for the final boys. I am praying for a Torquay win, i don't care how.

By the way aussie, cos you believe everything like a good lemming. If they offer you a vaccine for the Swine flu don't take it. In the last Flu pandemic the vaccine killed more people than the disease. Check it out people, absolutely true. Classic smoke and mirrors. But of course while they distract you with this they can rob your pension.

Pension, how old do you think I am, lemming hater? Also I`d like to offer you some advise mate, don`t make yourself known to me! Also who the hell has 6 legs anyway?