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Post by chrish on Apr 10, 2009 17:14:29 GMT
I'll go for this little lot I think.....
1. Neville Southall
2. Jim McNichol
3. Phil King
4. Bruce Rioch
5. Phil Lloyd
6. Matt Elliott
7. Rodney Jack
8. Alex Russell
9. Steve Cooper
10. David Caldwell
11. Lee Sharpe
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Post by jmgull on Apr 10, 2009 19:16:57 GMT
Best XI.....for me mid 70's onwards
John Turner
Andy Gurney Jimmy Dunne Wes Saunders Colin Anderson
Steve Morrall Alex Russell Jason Fowler Mark Loram
Steve Cooper Dave Caldwell
subs Tim Sills, Jackie Gallagher, Phil King, David Graham, Sean Haslegrave.
coach Bucks
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Post by Budleigh on Apr 10, 2009 22:15:44 GMT
I reckon that Les Lawrence would've given a few defences in any era a run for their money... obviously his heading was superb (have we seen a better 'afro' at Plainmoor?) But his long range shots were were also quite exceptional.... As a partnersship he and Steve Cooper were a match for anyone. But would I put him in my top team? Not sure.....
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Post by Budleigh on Apr 11, 2009 11:05:14 GMT
How about an obscure eleven?
Playing 4-4-2
Jack Casley
Lawrence 'Lol' Langstreth
Arthur Davison
Greg Downs (despite being a defender in this team he started as a forward so would have to be our goal machine, who could beat a ratio of a goal a game?)
Fred Turner
Davy Jones (surely he could pull something out of the locker when needed?)
Danny Bailey
Darren Baxter
Tony Ginter
Ron Jewell
Billy Griffiths
Total appearances, eleven. Goals scored, one.
Keith Viney, substitute. (As this was the 'position' he played during his one and only game for us, coming on for Derek Fowler in the cup game at Windsor & Eton in 1985.
His obscurity is summed up by the following story... I went for a night out in Exeter with a few friends and Mr Viney was amongst our party. He tried to impress my then girlfriend by telling her not to worry if people kept coming up and interrupting him as he was somewhat of a local footballing hero in the city. At some point after midnight my girlfriend whispered in a very loud aside... 'it's strange, but actually nobody seems to know who Keith is. We've not had one interruption'. The look on his face? Priceless....
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Post by Jon on Apr 11, 2009 12:01:27 GMT
Keith Viney, substitute. (As this was the 'position' he played during his one and only game for us, coming on for Derek Fowler in the cup game at Windsor & Eton in 1985. He didn't actually. It's an error! Viney was listed in the "Definitive TUFC", but I notified Leigh Edwards of the mistake. The Centenary History correctly shows PAUL VINER in the list of players on page 151, but still wrongly says Viney in the seson's record on page 233. You can see Paul Viner - a young striker, not a veteran left back - in the team pic on page 232, back row far left. |
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Post by Budleigh on Apr 11, 2009 12:09:07 GMT
Brilliant... makes it even better cos now he's even more obscure! The little toad told me himself he'd played the one game then didn't sign because he valued himself alot higher than Torquay United did and they wouldn't pay the wages he was expecting. Lucky I made him sub or else my team would've been one short!
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Post by Jon on Apr 11, 2009 12:14:55 GMT
I can understand what Stewart is saying, but the thread is "YOUR best ..." not "THE best...". I'm sure my team would be completely different if I was ten years older.
Barton is spot on about different ages appreciating different things. If I were thirty years younger, i might very well have thought Jo Kuffour to be the star of the promotion team rather than Alex Russell.
I did see Tommy Mitchinson play, but I was too young for anything much to register - I wouldn't have a clue how to compare him to Fowler or Russell. I saw Robin Stubbs play - but only after he came back to us with dodgy knees.
The first player to really hit me as a star was Mike Mahoney. Although I was very young when he left, I still remember enough for him to edge out John Turner - but he's the only inclusion from my pre-teen years.
MIKE MAHONEY
JIM McNICHOL
MATT ELLIOTT
WES SAUNDERS
BRIAN McGLINCHEY
JASON FOWLER
BRUCE RIOCH
ALEX RUSSELL
MARK LORAM
RODNEY JACK
DAVID GRAHAM
subs:
JOHN TURNER
CLINT BOULTON
STEVE McCALL
LEE SHARPE
STEVE COOPER
I've tried to make a team that could play together rather than just pick the best eleven players, but everyone merits a place.
The best manager I've seen is Cyril Knowles, but that team is not a "Cyril" team, so I'd have to go for Leroy Rosenior as manager - he'd get them playing just like Brazil.
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Post by Jon on Apr 11, 2009 12:22:48 GMT
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Post by merse on Apr 11, 2009 12:23:45 GMT
The little toad told me himself he'd played the one game then didn't sign because he valued himself alot higher than Torquay United did and they wouldn't pay the wages he was expecting.  I think in the event, he actually signed for Exeter City...................seems he didn't make much of an impression there either! |
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Post by merse on Apr 11, 2009 12:32:16 GMT
I did see Tommy Mitchinson play, but I was too young for anything much to register - I wouldn't have a clue how to compare him to Fowler or Russell. Take it from me Jon, there IS NO comparison. The Prime Minister of Plainmoor possessed "metronomical" passing ability and was a great player in a great side. Whilst the latter two were merely good players in good sides at the very most. |
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Post by merse on Apr 11, 2009 12:44:08 GMT
My "Best Ever Team" as a side in their own right in their own era would have to be the side of 66-7 & 67-8 for the simple fact that they established themselves at the highest level we have EVER been successful at. My "Best Ever XL" on an All Time Great basis at their best and from 1959~present day is thus: (4-4-2) Mike Mahoney. John Bond, Bill Kitchener, Jimmy Dunne, Bobby Baxter. Doug Clarke, John Benson, Tommy Mitchinson, Tony Scott Robin Stubbs, Jim Fryatt. subs: John Turner (GK), Bruce Rioch, Rodney Jack, John Smith, Mickey Cave. Not only is that a formidable side, but a balanced one as well with a five man bench that covers all eventualities.
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Post by Budleigh on Apr 11, 2009 19:10:15 GMT
I have it in my fair hand as well... just dug out my programme showing Mr Viney playing in that friendly.... I don't think they were impressed by him at Exeter by any menas...
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Post by rollocks on Apr 12, 2009 15:09:16 GMT
adjusted best XI (without Tully ;D)
1. Kenny Allen
2. Jim McNichol
3. Derek Hall
4. David Cole
5. Richard Bourne
6. Brian Healy
7. Alex Russell
8. Jason Fowler
9. Rodney Jack
10. Jamie Ward
11. Lee Sharpe
sub: Mark Loram
David Graham is not fit to lace the boots of the mighty mice, Ward and Jack.
were my eyes playing games with me but did I see Tim Sills' name in there on some lists? he wouldn't be in the top 20 TUFC strikers that i've seen.
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Post by phipsy on Apr 12, 2009 19:35:21 GMT
what an inspired teamyou have picked, most people would disagree with you on many selections but with the exception of maybe kenny allen, i would back you on everyone.
as for other keepers, just so many.
big nevfor example, mike mahoney or even further in the archives peter wakeham who was actually a reserve for the england undr 23 team at wembley while still a torquay player.
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Post by Jon on Apr 12, 2009 23:19:30 GMT
The Prime Minister of Plainmoor possessed "metronomical" passing ability and was a great player in a great side. Several people have said much the same to me - so I was tempted to have him in my side because I did see him play. I also could have justified putting Robin Stubbs in on the same basis. But the whole idea for me is to pick players based on what I have seen myself, appreciated myself and remembered myself. If I put Stubbs and Mitchinson in it would be on hearsay, no matter how reliabe. If I went down that route, I could include Don Mills, Don Welsh and maybe even Chelston's boyhood hero Crad Evans. |
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