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Post by petejones on Apr 8, 2009 15:44:48 GMT
if someone is aggressive towards you, stand your ground and defend yourself. i knew we'd agree one day Merse!
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merse
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Post by merse on Apr 8, 2009 16:02:14 GMT
It shows that the police were not doing such a wonderful job of allowing Londoners to get on with their daily business. I hope the thug in a uniform is charged and punished...but it will probably be swept under the carpet. The attack by the officer looks appalling, but he did follow the procedure of striking the legs as opposed to the head or body. The dozy response of the victim that lead to the attack was either because he really was intent on slowing down the police advance OR he was incapable of reacting to their advance through incapacitation which resulted in his heart attack. If the police tell you to move aside my advice is to do just that in that sort of situation. The incident happened in Royal Exchange Passage and the victim had walked there from his paper selling pitch, it's rather hard to comprehend what possessed him to cut through there given the circumstances, we'll probably never know. In my time living in the Mare Street area of Hackney we experienced the notorious killing of neighbour Harry Stanley by armed police who shot him dead when he was drunkenly carrying home a chair leg in a carrier bag, right outside his front door and in broad daylight. The shooting dead at point blank range of P.C. Larry Brown by a suspect with a sawn off shotgun (his memorial stone is right opposite my old house in Pownall Road E8) and not far away was the home of Blair Peach who was killed (allegedly) by a blow over the head from a police radio during a Southall demonstration. Neither of the killings by the police have ever been satisfactorily dealt with as far as I and many thousands of others are concerned, yet it did not stop the neighbourhood showing the utmost sympathy, friendship and respect to the widow and daughter of P.C. Brown to this day. One incident does not determine a whole operation and how it was conducted, but in all honesty I would put it to you that the REAL conscience should be felt by the perpetrators of the willful and pre-planned confrontational behaviour around the Bank of England last week ~ somehow I don't expect that to be expressed. A very sad and tragic case, and not one to score political points over.
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Post by weathergull on Apr 8, 2009 19:04:35 GMT
So not only are you not adverse to hurting animals, it seems your also not bothered about hurting women. And with the " lesbian " jibe, sexist as well! You must be a great person to know merse! Arise chivalrous Sir Weathergull, you're people await you! I don't care whether the rider is a copper, a hussar or Lester bloody Piggot; if they back half a ton of horse flesh into me I'm going to defend myself first and ask questions later. I haven't whinged and moaned about what she did and somehow I don't think she was the listening kind after displaying THAT sort of tactic. That was the whole point of my original post on this subject, have your protest but don't belly ache about it being contained, if someone is aggressive towards you, stand your ground and defend yourself. The trouble with the "PC" brigade is their total lack of a grasp of reality and their pre-occupation with imposing THEIR lifestyle parameters on others. You make me suspect that you think that police horse was some sort of Shetland Pony ridden by Lady Godiva Say what you want merse, hurting animals is inexcusable. Taking pleasure in hurting women.............there is a word for it but it slips my mind at the moment! O yes, now I remember..........arsehole!
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