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Post by Budleigh on Feb 23, 2009 10:10:02 GMT
Interesting reading (put your anorak on and brew up the bovril)
In all our games this season we've scored more goals, eight, in the last five minutes than in any other five minute period of time, but on the other side of the coin we've conceded more, seven, in this last five minute period. (Moral of the story, don't leave early) The second place in this table for conceding is interestingly the last five minutes of the first half when we've conceded four with this time period coming in a close third as to when we score, five. So do all teams 'up' their game as the end of the half or game looms or do the opposition side flag? Or is it teams start to push on as each half comes to a close?
Now an interesting exercise below which I think sums up our season:
On the 17 occasions we've scored first we went on to win 13 times, draw 4 and lose none, giving us 43 points from a possible 51.
On the 12 occasions when our opponents have scored first we've only gone on to win 2 games, draw 2 and have lost the other 8, giving us 8 points from a possible 36.
The other game was obviously our only 0-0 draw.
We've therefore only gained eight points from a losing position but only dropped eight points from a winning position, none being losses.
This shows where our strength, and weakness lie. When we get the first goal we're unbeatable, but if we don't we've got to find away of getting back into the match when we concede. It's obvious that it's our inability to come back from a goal down that's a major problem.
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Post by petejones on Feb 23, 2009 10:47:10 GMT
Very interesting stuff, which would seem to suggest 'we' are unable to effectively change a game if it's not going to plan...
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Post by chelstongull on Feb 23, 2009 12:47:54 GMT
The HE reports that we have only won 4 out of the last 11 league games - I didn't think things had got that bad!!
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Post by dazgull on Feb 23, 2009 15:17:27 GMT
Take the cup matches away and we have been very average since November.
Can we go on a winning run to show the rest that we mean business in the playoffs: Yes we can but we wont.
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Post by Dave on Feb 23, 2009 17:14:44 GMT
BudleighGull I think to answer your question I would need to know if we scored more or conceded more in those five minutes periods home or away.
It we conceded more at home then yes maybe the players knew halftime was coming and just took their foot off the pedal,if it was the other way around then it could be the away team feel they have got to half time with the job done they set out to do and also just relax a bit to early.
The problem now is we do not look like scoring, anyway only winning four of the last eleven based on your post we will fear any first gaol scored against us.
The answer is simply, put three up and get the first goal and then take two of then off and bring on two defenders, we Sheldon lose when we score first ;D
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Post by Budleigh on Feb 23, 2009 17:25:54 GMT
I just thought it was interesting that we have not lost a game when we score first... which makes the equation simple, we damn well make sure we put the ball in the net before the opposition. But I thought it almost unbelievable that once we've been scored against we seem incapable of going on to then swing the game our way. I realise that the first goal is important but not to the degree that once its been scored we can effectively stop the game because the outcome is obvious...!
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Post by Dave on Feb 23, 2009 17:33:43 GMT
Leigh my last line in my post was just a tongue in cheek remark, but I would like to see if there is a pattern if the goals are scored by the home team or the away team in those lase 5 Min's.
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Post by Budleigh on Feb 23, 2009 17:39:40 GMT
The timings for the goals we've scored in the last five minutes of the game are: at home, 90th, 87th and 85th. Away they are: 90th, 90th, 90th, 90th and 85th. Of course these will include those scored in injury time and one, Dsane away against Lewes, is down in some stats as 84th. In the FA Cup the two late goals are Sills' 87th and 88th minute goals against Chipstead. I don't know at present the goals against as to whether they were home or away... I've run out of time to work it out today!
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Post by Fonda on Feb 23, 2009 18:22:11 GMT
One of the continued criticisms of the manager is that he doesn't have a 'Plan B', and that when things go wrong on the pitch, he's unable to influence proceedings in a positive manner. These stats don't do a great deal to disprove that theory. Last season, at around the turn of the year, it became evident that our 'direct' style had been sussed, and was easily countered by even the most limited of opposition. This season we've certainly played a better brand of football (at times), but perhaps that's now been worked out and is in need of alteration once again? I thought part of the reason for constructing a squad containing 20 players good enough for first-team action, was that we could utilise a 'horses for courses' method, and it would be possible to change things when necessary. We had a brief flirtation with 4-4-1-1,which proved a good option away from home. We now need to develop something different for home games which will enable us to break down teams that are happy to sit in.
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Post by aussie on Feb 23, 2009 18:54:19 GMT
Games change, quite often change in unpredictable ways thus throwing alot of "plan b`s" out the proverbial window, you can do home work and train for certian games but when an unseeable event happens it screws up what you had planned, how you pick your subs bench verses your starting eleven is based upon your knowledge of the opponent, a team can be sussed out completely and then they are forced into a change they didn`t even see coming which in hand leaves you wanting.
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Post by andygulls on Feb 23, 2009 20:57:46 GMT
Aussie
That is part of the problem. PB seems not to properly pick a team to match up against the opposition strengths (or weaknesses) Saturday being perhaps a casein point.
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Post by EmpireGull on Feb 25, 2009 13:14:10 GMT
Very simple really...........score a goal (Forest Green match) possibly goalof the season.........get man of the match award......then get taken off......and...crystal ball prediction.....drop from the bench for the next game at Oxford!!!!!!!!! What a manager............
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Post by stewart on Feb 25, 2009 16:20:25 GMT
The HE reports that we have only won 4 out of the last 11 league games - I didn't think things had got that bad!! It's actually 4 out of the last 12. |
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Post by chelstongull on Feb 25, 2009 18:32:15 GMT
The HE reports that we have only won 4 out of the last 11 league games - I didn't think things had got that bad!! It's actually 4 out of the last 12. Reported in yesterdays HE prior to the FGR game - so is now 4 out of 12 or 4 out of 13?? |
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