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Post by stig123 on Nov 7, 2023 22:01:54 GMT
Bloody hopeless.
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Post by stewart on Nov 7, 2023 22:28:04 GMT
My first time on here for months, but I thought it worth noting that in 2018/19 after 15 matches, we were one place higher with one point fewer. This was followed by ten consecutive wins. Looking at the next ten fixtures this season, a repeat is not beyond the bounds of possibility.
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Post by rjdgull on Nov 7, 2023 23:09:58 GMT
This was always a tough ask, but losing the spine of our side in Halstead, Lapslie and Jarvis really set us back. Yeovil were well deserved winners and with their fans singing, “we are going to win the league”I couldn’t disagree from where I was sitting and they look to be a club back on the rise following their ownership issues.
Thought the first 10 minutes was even Stevens but gradually Yeovil asserted themselves and started probing with a goal looking on the cards and it duly came with Nouble of course seeing him break through our defence to fire home in the area. We suffered a further setback with an ill Dolan having to be substituted with Hanson coming on to replace him. Yeovil continued to look the better side and a pass from midfield to their striker just outside our area was passed back to the midfielder who saw our defence rapidly scoot back allowing him the time and space to fire a long shot home for a well deserved lead.
Ironically we could have scored a couple, good pressure in the corner, so the ball come out to Moxey and his ferocious shot was only just wide. Ash was able to take the ball away from the keeper just before halftime but his shot while had to beat a couple of defenders was hit over when really should have been on target.
We could have been well beaten in the second half but the side kept fighting and earned a degree of respectability. Some good play on the left with a newly substituted Hall saw him cross to McGavin on the edge of the area to attempt one of his trademark shots which was bludgeoned into the back of the net and suddenly it was game on. I’m not sure if McGavin gets a trophy when winning goal of the month but at this rate he’s going to have a cabinet full of them! Of course what we didn’t want to do was then concede again but more pressure from Yeovil forced Lovett to push a well hit shot wide and from the resulting corner it was nicely headed home. To be fair to Lovett he also saved a one-on-one chance from Yeovil, so he generally had a good game.
Nice atmosphere at the ground today with a decent sized Tuesday evening crowd and the Yeovil fans in good voice.
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Post by rjdgull on Nov 7, 2023 23:10:56 GMT
My first time on here for months, but I thought it worth noting that in 2018/19 after 15 matches, we were one place higher with one point fewer. This was followed by ten consecutive wins. Looking at the next ten fixtures this season, a repeat is not beyond the bounds of possibility. Nice to hear from you! Would take that!
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Post by rjdgull on Nov 7, 2023 23:11:49 GMT
link - TUFC match report.
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Post by hector on Nov 8, 2023 6:59:20 GMT
My first time on here for months, but I thought it worth noting that in 2018/19 after 15 matches, we were one place higher with one point fewer. This was followed by ten consecutive wins. Looking at the next ten fixtures this season, a repeat is not beyond the bounds of possibility. The difference though was that team had drawn a lot of games and weren’t getting beaten. The season we won this league, we lost only 8 games all season; we’ve lost 7 already in just 16 games and we are not in good form, losing 6 of the last 9. The team we had in 2018/19 was far superior to this one and was doing to other teams what Yeovil did to us. Last night we were lucky to only lose 3-1 - it could have been far, far worse and we have looked fortuitous in the games we have won, other than against Farnborough. The only positive for me (and I appreciate that there are plenty who do not feel similarly) is Brett McGavin. He looks the most likely player to score each game. He is an intelligent player who just needs better players around him and then I think he’d thrive.
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Post by Rags on Nov 8, 2023 14:00:20 GMT
My first time on here for months, but I thought it worth noting that in 2018/19 after 15 matches, we were one place higher with one point fewer. This was followed by ten consecutive wins. Looking at the next ten fixtures this season, a repeat is not beyond the bounds of possibility. Its a good point and we can but hope. However, beyond the stats there are few similarities. The first nine games of that season were under Gary Owers and we managed 3 wins, 3 draws and 3 defeats. Gary Johnson took over and while the next six games were equally split between wins and draws, more importantly the recruitment saw the arrival of Saikou Janneh, Kalvin Kalala and Connor Lemonheigh-Evans with increased playing time for Jake Andrews and Opi Edwards. There were other changes in personnel, but the main difference if my memory serves me correctly was that we played a quick, accurate passing game that ran other teams off their feet. Also, IIRC, Johnson moved Jamie Reid from left wing to centre forward and he responded with 29 league goals that season, 28 of them under Johnson. Nine games is not a large sample, however we averaged half a goal per game under Owers (5 in 9), 2.67 goals per game from when Johnson took over (88 goal in 33 games). More importantly, 32% (28) of those 88 goals came in the last 20 minutes, 18% (16 goals) were scored from the 80th minute onwards. Our superior fitness showed. So far this season, we are scoring 1.7 goals per game (27 goals in 16 league games). Our team is older and slower, and we don't have a mobile striker in the mould of Reid. Aaron Jarvis has scored 7 goals (a third of our total) but 4 of them are penalties. Let Dean Moxey (for example) take the penalties and Jarvis' total plummets. In any case he is injured for, probably, the next eight games if not more. I like your optimism, unfortunately the similarities to 2018 are few and far between. I'd love nothing more than to be proved wrong.
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Post by petef on Nov 8, 2023 14:51:07 GMT
Ours is a squad in crisis which is small, inexperienced and limited , long term and injuries to key players already piling up. Its what happens when poor decisions are made in the transfer market with long contracts to unproven players and and a squad low on confidence and belief. It could get worse though I hope and believe we will have enough to stay away from the bottom four. Promotion is out of the question from what's been witnessed up to now. Too many fragile, injury prone and failing players. Lapslie will never see a good run of games, Hall is all but finished, and the other gamble and waste of a wage, Dawson will likely never kick a ball for us again. Ash, Collins, etc who play every week are just not producing with players on long contracts sat on their arse for weeks on end. The play now looks, rushed, disorganised and jumbled with no matchwinner or genuine threat anywhere to be seen. The Johnson tactics of the past wont work with this set of players and he hasn't got a plan b they simply cannot press and produce up front and that always leaves us exposed through a weak midfield and a defence that's alway been open to concede.
The bigger picture is of more importance though . Do the owners, and their secret society genuinely have any footballing ambition?
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Post by Rob on Nov 9, 2023 5:28:59 GMT
Good to hear from you, Stewart. Not confident of going 10 unbeaten either, sadly. That said, I can’t get too down at being beaten by Champions elect Yeovil who have now won 12 in 12 in all competitions and who were backed heavily for a promotion push by their ownership in the close season. We were well and truly outclassed.
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Post by Jon on Nov 10, 2023 0:30:56 GMT
You knew we were doomed on hearing Lapslie was out.
If there was any doubt about that, lining up with McGavin as “holding midfielder”, Collins in central midfield, Ash on the left wing and Williams on his own up front put it beyond doubt.
Yeovil could stroll through our non-existent midfield at will as it was obvious they would.
Fortunately they got bored and declared on two.
A McGavin special briefly made a one-sided game appear up for grabs but Yeovil effortlessly bagged a third without moving out of third gear.
Assume Dolan was too ill to start, hence the early exit. Marshall was quite obviously unable to continue for a long time before he was subbed. Not the first time this has happened. Will that have made the injury worse?
On the plus side, the scoreline was less heavy than expected. Feels like a win.
Havant are so poor that you would expect us to scrape a win there in the first of four consecutive away league games.
So Gaffer, six points from three games Gaffer. Promotion form Gaffer
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Post by Jon on Nov 10, 2023 0:34:21 GMT
My first time on here for months…. Really good to hear from you Stewart. Hope you are well. Tell us about United in the 50s. Far less painful!
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