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Post by buster on Jan 21, 2009 13:25:52 GMT
Apologies if this has already been covered.
Picking up on the comments in the Coventry thread. I was wondering what the thoughts were on the Babacombe end being used permanently for home fans. With the popside being split into 3 sections.
1. nearest the family stand to the tunnel.
2. rest split in half.
2a - tunnel to half way along for home fans
2b rest for away fans. A buffet hut & toilets could be placed in the corner by the turnstiles.
If on the rare occasion that it is needed 2a could be opened up for away fans.
Alternatively we could offer away fans seating only in the grandstand. With the babacombe end opened up for away fans if they plan to bring more than say 500.
My reasoning being:
1.How often do we get enough away fans to justify allocating the babacombe end to them?
2. Allowing the vocal fans to go behind the goal may improve the atmosphere.
3. Would allow a split between the vocal fans and the home fans who do not enjoy the current language.
I accept it may have to result in an unsightly barrier of some sort on the popside.
These thoughts purely relate to our normal home game attendances and not the very rare occurance we will have against Coventry.
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Post by Dave on Jan 21, 2009 18:16:52 GMT
Buster its always good to come with new ideas, but I really don't think your plans would work that well and for many reasons. It is true the away end is mostly empty now during the season for normal BSP league games, but your plans would empty the popside.
Getting gates of only 2000 in a ground that holds 6300, there is bound to be many empty spaces around the ground and even if 200 home fans wanted to go into the away end, the popside would start to look empty. While it might move the singers who like to sing the c word away from those offended by it, we would simply give them a license to sing even worse songs.
One poster talked about building our new main stand and having a bigger popside, by doing that we could then give clubs like Coventry more tickets. The seats in the main grandstand nearest the away end could have more given to away fans and the end of the popside could also we divided so the away end comes around on to the popside.
This could only happen if the popside was made much bigger as you must make sure there would be enough places for big games for all home fans. I watched a cup game on TV a few weeks ago(forgot what teams were playing) a sell out 1300 and the away fans got 2000 tickets and the home fans having 1100. Now I really think that giving away fans 1500 when the ground only holds 6300, is a fair amount, not sure but there must be a rule about what percentage of places must be made for away fans in grounds.
When we go back up, we will see the away end filled up much more than it is now and plans need to be worked on to increase the grounds capacity and that must include making more places for away fans, so that when we have big cup games in future, all home and away fans who want to watch the match should be able too.
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Post by jerry on Jan 21, 2009 21:38:48 GMT
Why on earth would we want to inflict such a dreadful view on our own supporters?
I don't travel to away games as much as I used to but I well remember how awful it is to watch a game from behind a goal!
I can't for the life of me understand why our directors box is behind the goal at Plainmoor. Surely the only one of it's kind in the country as those in the "posh" seats usually like to sit where they can get an accurate perception of what has actually happened!
Also having our more vocal fans so close down the side of the pitch gives us a more intimidating atmosphere than if they were hidden away behind a goal! On more than one occasion I've seen an opposition winger/full-back lose his composure completely when the pop has really got on his back!
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Post by snakey on Jan 21, 2009 22:25:37 GMT
Think you will find that from the BSP upwards you have to have segregation.
I have been to many BSS and lower games where the fans change ends at half time!!!
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Post by capitalgull on Jan 21, 2009 23:04:07 GMT
Apart from Eastbourne? That was completely unsegregated although there wasn't that much in the way of movement from end to end as far as I could tell.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2009 23:22:25 GMT
Apart from Eastbourne? That was completely unsegregated although there wasn't that much in the way of movement from end to end as far as I could tell. I seem to remember our fans sticking to one end even though we attacked the other way in the first half - with the exception of Mr Paul Bastard who followed the action by switching to the clubhouse end... |
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Post by seventyseven on Jan 22, 2009 13:59:04 GMT
Apart from Eastbourne? That was completely unsegregated although there wasn't that much in the way of movement from end to end as far as I could tell. I seem to remember our fans sticking to one end even though we attacked the other way in the first half - with the exception of Mr Paul Bastard who followed the action by switching to the clubhouse end... Both me and my son were a little perplexed as to why we (along with Mr Bastard resplendent in his trademark shorts and carrier bag) seemed to be the only United supporters behind the goal we were attacking... very strange considering there was no segregation... |
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Post by tqriviera on Jan 22, 2009 14:32:37 GMT
Jerry - the simple reason for the directors "box" being situated in the Family Stand is that all their facilities (Board Room etc) are also there - remember, they do also have to "entertain" the away club and other VIP guests.
When, hopefully, the Grandstand is renewed and developed, I am sure that everything will move there.
Interestingly, Mark and Cris Boyce nearly always take seats in the Grandstand, close to the half way line to watch the match and Simon Baker is still a "Pop-sider".
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