merse
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Post by merse on Jan 11, 2009 10:52:26 GMT
 Oxford United now join Crawley Town in the BSP "dock" and face a substantial points deduction unless they fail to appeal a punishment that is due to be announced tomorrow. Not only are they "supported" by some of the league's most obnoxious fans - if scrutiny of the BSP Fans Forum is anything to go by (you'll find racism, constant reference to the BSP being tin pot and Mickey mouse for the self styled "Biggest Club" in the competition from their contibutors) - it seems they cannot even run their own football affairs properly and are facing a deduction of 11 (ELEVEN) points for fielding an ineligible player! No wonder they appointed Chris Wilder as manager recently given his experience of running Halifax Town when they had a ten point deduction hanging around their neck  Crawley Town, who have a shameful history of points deductions and refusal to run their affairs in the accepted manner....................they have had points deducted for the past three seasons - are believed to be accepting the loss of 5 points for the same misdemeanour as Oxford without recourse to appeal. Another shocking example of Crawley's lack of scruples is the revelation that they recently spent a fair amount of money bringing in three new signings when they owed and subsequently failed to pay their programme printers Queensway Publishing £16,000 and so had the embarrassment of having NO programme produced for their New Year's Day derby with Woking. Good for Queensway's owner Lee Harding (who is chairman of Braintree Town) for showing them to be what they are and should the BSP be taking further action over Crawley showing yet more contempt and disregard for the reputation of it's member clubs by acting in this way? I think they should, as their scandalous way of running their club only makes it harder for other small clubs to get the commercial credit facilities they all rely on to order goods and duly pay for them at the end of the month. Chatting to someone involved at boardroom level with "another club" whilst at Weymouth on Boxing Day, I was told of another BSP club that had their coach to a recent away game recalled by the operating company just as they were due to set off on an overnight trip to a game and subsequently players' cars had to be utilised and yet another club where the programmes were witheld by the printing company for a recent home fixture. Returning to the misdemeanour of ineligible players....................why does it take the BSP so long to realise that these players are in fact incorrectly registered or even not at all? Aren't team sheets properly scrutinised on the Monday morning following a Saturday game as they quite regularly are in amateur "recreational" leagues the length and breadth of the country? All this palaver clearly does nothing for the professional image and standing of the BSP in the eyes of the supporting public and the commercial world that provides it's advertising and sponsorship flow.
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Dave
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Post by Dave on Jan 11, 2009 12:52:17 GMT
Returning to the misdemeanour of ineligible players....................why does it take the BSP so long to realise that these players are in fact incorrectly registered or even not at all? Aren't team sheets properly scrutinised on the Monday morning following a Saturday game as they quite regularly are in amateur "recreational" leagues the length and breadth of the country. A very good post Alan and one that does ask some very important questions, but I would like to pick up on the part I have quoted. The BSP would have a registration secretary the same as all leagues have and as you know Ant is the registration secretary for the South Devon League. While I do not know how or what checks the BSP registration secretary makes each week, I would suspect that it was felt that there is no real need to make the checks each week. As the clubs would all be professional and would have proper secretary's of their own, to check and make sure all players were not only registered but eligible to play.All the players are well known and easily recognized, so unless a club was really stupid and was hoping th cheat and get away with it, then you would think that it must simply be a mistake on the part of the person at the club who's job it is, to make sure all players can play legitimately. It is so different for the registration secretary's of local leagues and for so many different reasons. I know in the past that other secretary's never did the weekly checks that Ant does without fail and as a result the problem of illegal players was so much more of a problem in the South Devon league. After yesterdays games, a few team sheets came through the letter box and today more have arrived. Tomorrow a few will come in the post and on Tuesday around 30 will be in the post and some will come later in the week. The ones Ant has got so far have all been checked and each name has also been checked, but at the end of the day, its only a name and while Ant can check if that name was able to play, he will not know if it was that player who played, or one playing using the name. Ant will find players who has played when they should not have and it is the case more than not, that the club has simply made a mistake and has not played the player knowing full he should not have played. There is no excuses in the end, clubs really need to do their homework properly. The real problem is players who are not the person named on a team sheet, unless someone in the other team gets to see the team sheet and knows any of the names on it, then players will play in games when they should not be playing. If Ant gets to find out this might be going on at any club, we will without notice turn up at a game and will check all the players himself. I think the main reason it happens is because a team finds it has only got 10 players who have turned up and then the temptation is to get someone to make up the team to 11 players, it should not happen but I can understand why it goes on. This is why ID cards will be coming in for the South Devon League and it will go along way to stop illegal players playing in matches. |
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bbcgull
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Post by bbcgull on Jan 12, 2009 16:19:10 GMT
Oxford deducted 5 points.
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Post by David Graham's Eighth Pint on Jan 12, 2009 18:59:00 GMT
Oxford deducted 5 points. And Crawley deducted four points, making it the fourth season a row they've been punished. |
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treetopsringwood
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Post by treetopsringwood on Jan 22, 2009 20:01:51 GMT
The Football Conference has announced 'an internal review into its admin procedures' in the wake of points deductions to four clubs. (info BBC ceefax page 312 today)
Will it admit any negligence & give the points back?
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Rob
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Post by Rob on Jan 22, 2009 22:43:34 GMT
Much as I dislike Evans, he really does have a case for comparative unfair treatment on viewing the discretionary element of the punishment dished out to Oxford on the very same week.
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