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Post by rjdgull on Aug 5, 2017 6:53:39 GMT
Here we are at the start of a new season where expectations are low but possibly higher than the last couple of seasons. We do have a tough few games to get going but should show us where we are in terms of squad quality. Not sure with injuries who will be starting and it seems Tranmere have a few doubts too although they have a lot more resources! COYY! .com preview
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Post by Jon on Aug 5, 2017 9:18:24 GMT
Left back is the big problem area.
Can't see Davis or Anderson (plan A and plan B) being thrown into action with no pre-season at all.
I thought plan C might be Nico, but his limited pre-season action hints that he is not even "emergency cover" on the playing front.
Gowling and Klukowski in the middle and McGinty at left back is an option - but again one not explored in pre-season.
So it looks a straight choice between Chaney and Lee who had 45 minutes each against Truro. Both looked comfortable going forward, but neither was tested at all defensively.
Shape will be interesting as we tried both the diamond and the flat 4-4-2 in pre-season.
The diamond would pick itself - Lathrope at the back, Young and Klukowski either side and Gosling in the hole.
If we go 4-4-2, I would expect Lathrope to miss out, with Gosling taking one wide position and the other up for grabs between Lee, Chaney and Reid.
I think I would "double bank" the left hand side by playing Lee at left back with Chaney in front to help him out, as tried in the second half v Truro, leaving Gosling to cut in from the right.
Up front, you can perm any two from Gray, Pittman and Keating. I was impressed with the finishing of both Gray (seems to have a nose for being in the right place) and Pittman (one goal and one disallowed both well taken) against Truro. Neither looks as idle and selfish as Mr Williams. Keating looks far less composed in front of goal but his energy and persistence make things happen.
Whichever of the three misses out would hope to get a good twenty minutes off the bench.
Tough first three games, followed by three winnable games. Nine points from six would be a decent start - three losses followed by three wins? Unlikely. Somehow we need to scrape two or three points from the those opening three games.
It won't be easy to get anything from Tranmere!
Looking forward to a decent atmosphere with a decent number of away fans.
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Post by rjdgull on Aug 5, 2017 15:14:52 GMT
0-0 still but Tranmere down to 10 men - can we take advantage?
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Post by rjdgull on Aug 5, 2017 15:43:23 GMT
0-0 still but Tranmere down to 10 men - can we take advantage? Now Down To 9 Men!
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Post by petef on Aug 5, 2017 16:56:13 GMT
Many positives and plenty to build on. Whether we can challenge at the top end of the division is the big question. When you look at the quality Tranmere squad it makes you rather envious. For sure they will be up there in the mix. A fairly equal first 45 I thought Tranmere looking like the slick capable side that just lost out to FG in the playoffs not many weak areas but we did our best to exploit and unnerve without ever really threatening. The sight of Higgins superb long throw in's into the box was a bit of a surprise - as good a s a corner - very Nicoesuqe and will hopefully reap dividends against lesser sides. The biggest disappointment was the standard of the officials AGAIN today they looked well below the expected standard with the ref allowing play to continue after blatant fouls he eventually ended up making a rod for hids own back booking three of ours and sending off Tranmere's MacNulty and Norwood both for off the ball incidents. It all got a bit fractious and unnecessary after a crazy challenge on the impressive Sam Channey that saw him launched into the air the ridiculous ref Sam Allison initially allowed play to continue and didn't even blow for a foul eventually though attention was drawn to Channey's injury with pushing and shoving going on at the other end off the pitch Mac Nulty must have thrown an arm out at Keating and was duely sent to the stands. Although our work rate was impressive and we continued to probe very few clear chances were created the best falling to I thin Klukowski after a riht sided run at defenders Jordan Lee swept the ball across the face of goal and somehow the golden chance to win the game went begging. One outstanding Ryan Clarke save from a 30 yard free kick in the second period earned him te MOM award but their were many candidates today and for me Gowling should have taken the prize simply a class act - always on top of his attacker and never gave an inch both on the ground and in the air.
Early days but there was a genuine positive air about the place today Hvent felt that for a few seasons. The pitch looks magnificent, probably ythe best I have ever seen it and theplayers look to be doing it justice. Great start, great confidence builder and lots to look forward to.
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Post by Swanny on Aug 5, 2017 18:17:13 GMT
I would have settled for a point before the game so I suppose I am relatively pleased with the 0-0 draw. A decent crowd of 3,162, good noise from both sets of fans and the atmosphere reminded me of times when we were a football league club. Sponsors MOTM going to keeper Clarke who made at least 3 outstanding saves. As for the match itself, Tranmere created the clearer chances whereas Torquay created little in the way of proper chances but Torquay matched Tranmere for most of the game.
The first 10 minutes was all Tranmere in our half and somehow we kept them out. Clarke showed what an outstanding keeper we have signed. After 3 minutes he blocked a shot on our 6 yard box as defenders failed to clear as Tranmere looked certain to score. Tranmere had a number of dangerous free-kicks as all the debatable decision were going their way. One free-kick crashed off our crossbar leaving Clarke on the floor as the ball looped into play. Clarke quickly regained his footing and punched clear the rebound under pressure from a Tranmere player who would have headed into an empty net. There were other occasions when some last ditch defending saved Torquay throwing their bodies on the line.
All game it was an impressive defensive display. Gowling at centre back should do great this season and is a lot more assured on the ball than McGinty. It was great to see a Torquay keeper who has a calm, confident air about himself and you could hear Clarke barking orders at the defenders. We have not had a commanding keeper like that for many a season. I like Higgins at right back even though he makes the odd slip with decision making. His long throw created Torquay best chance of the first half. Chaney acquitted himself well at left back against a tough, physical Tranmere side.
Young played well in midfield doing well physically and finding a pass. Gosling possesses some decent skill on the right wing. Up front Torquay looked lightweight without any physical presence. Pittman did not get into the game at all. Keating put his usual effort in but he is still very raw and is not clinical enough when he does get a chance. Keating does win headers well at times but in the second half he did not connect with a cross when presented with a chance. Sills years ago would have buried those sort of chances. On today's evidence we may badly miss Brett Williams to provide the clinical finishing that turns draws or losses into wins. Gray gave the front line a bit more presence when he replaced Pitman in the second half and looks arguably our best hope of scoring our goals.
The referee all game seemed too slow in spotting key moments often letting nasty challenges go unpunished and eventually the game descended into chaos. Following a nasty challenge on Chaney, McNulty got his second yellow card as there was a skirmish among some players. Ironically Tranmere went up a gear when they had 10 men. Late on Norwood got a straight red for a nasty off the ball incident. Torquay could not capitalize against 9 men and Reid and substitute Lee did not make the best of opportunities. Torquay best chance was following a decent passing move. The ball slid past their keeper but lacked pace and a defender comfortably cleared the ball near the goal line. Torquay lacked composure in their moves and often passes went astray with players on different wavelengths. All game Tranmere created the clearer opportunities and deserved to win. Our draw was earned from great goalkeeping and determined defending. When Clarke did miss a punch a defender was there to head off the line.
There were more positives than negatives today and a well earned point against a team who are bound to be in the top four. It was a gutsy performance. Our defence is far better this season but the big question mark is who will score the goals?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 7:48:56 GMT
I've read on numerous media that it is disgusting that we couldn't beat 9 men! Oh for the love of pain! They had nine men for 5 mins and r-soles are singing from the roof tops that its a disgrace that we couldn't punish them! They went down to 10 and closed ranks then went down to 9 and parked the bus for 5 mins! Not hard to do but a ball ache to break down if they are disciplined! I wish these morons whom know Jack all about football would stick to chatting sh1t on Twitter! That includes the hater called Merse, wish I knew what Kev said to him that had got him so incensed! Every post on the kiddies site he lets Kev have it with both barrels! Old age doesn't seem to be mellowing the old fart!
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Post by jj on Aug 6, 2017 8:11:01 GMT
I was there yesterday. As stated left back could be problematic. Pittman looked lost and lethargic.But many positives, How Long leader, strong good in the air, keeper class for our league.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 10:01:40 GMT
A really good solid, disciplined performance from Kev's new team. Tranmere have quality throughout their side, not a single weak link you can target.They also seem to be experts at every aspect of gamesmanship as well, and if you note that it's Sam Allison 'in charge' of your match then the temptation to deploy all those underhand tactics was obviously too strong to resist. With the Ref having already lost his coin before kick-off (see pic above) it was an early sign that Mr.Allison would be treating us to his usual level of competency. Mickey Mellon has the cash to buy himself a better team than King Kev. Then add to that the impression that the majority of the questionable decisions went Tranmere's way during that first 45 minutes, and it was a tribute to our new team that they'd gelled so well and showed such determination to go into the break on level terms. jj mentions that Pittman looked lethargic. While any forward we have is unlikely to be capable of running around quite as much as Ruari Keating can, I also didn't think that JP looked particularly sharp in the pre-season game at Plymouth Parkway (my report on that game still sadly marooned in the wrong section, but no doubt on Admins 'To do' list). But without checking, didn't JP miss a chunk of one game due to being taken off with concussion,and then being forced to miss the following two ? If he's still a little short on match fitness that will correct itself soon, and thankfully we also have James Gray to call on. Tranmere's niggly unsporting approach continued in similar fashion as the second half kicked off. You do wonder whether an assessor paid Mr.Allison a half time visit to suggest that evening things up by also punishing Tranmere for their misdemeanours might not be a bad idea. Aging hooligan Stephen McNulty was the first to be shown red. Later on Norwood ran past Josh Gowling who had been standing there minding his own business, but Norwood decided to flatten him, probably with an elbow, as he went by. Did Mr.Allison see it ?....who knows...but the Bristow's Bench side linesman did, and he waved his flag frantically. As Gowling and Norwood squared up, the lino cupped his mouthpiece and was clearly explaining who the culprit was. The red card was produced for the second time, allowing Norwood to join McNulty in the delights of an early bath. In the remaining time left not much actual football was played. Their keeper took an age to release the ball. Numerous stoppages. Popside throw ins took an interminably long time; Tranmere players walking very slowly to retrieve the ball from further down the touchline, then walking even more slowly back to where the throw had to be taken from. It's times like that you really wish there was a spare ballboy or two who could be redeployed to the Popside. In conclusion it has to be judged as an excellent TEAM performance. We've not the resources to recruit players who should be expected to run Tranmere ragged. We can only ask them to do their best against better quality players and that's what they did. Half a dozen games in against a variety of opponents and we'll be more justified in saying where we appear to be coming up short, or where we're outstanding. Good outweighed the bad for us yesterday. Let's hope it's the same on Tuesday night, when it's another very tough test away to Aldershot.
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Post by gullone on Aug 6, 2017 15:48:16 GMT
Some cracking reports on here as usual and i was certainly very encouraged by the performance of the team as a whole. On another note i wonder if anyone else on here had one of the new home made steak and ale pies on offer. Not exactly a cardboard pasty from an old caravan in one corner of the ground and i freely admit to being no connoisseur but bloody tasty none the less imo...any thoughts ?
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Post by chelstongull on Aug 6, 2017 19:24:42 GMT
Can't really add much to the excellent match reports by AJ, Swanny and Pete other than to add my disgust at the foul on Chaney which could have ended his career (hard to believe some folk reckon that he got his just deserts in playing in a man's game).
One hopes that will be the last time we see that ref at Plainmoor, absolute disgrace.
Whilst we were reasonably strong at the back, I thought we didn't create enough up front and I think (and stand to be corrected) that Jamie Reid's strike on 75 minutes was our first 'serious' shot on target. Nicho, please stop the two people 'pretending' to take the free kick training ground move, it ain't working and stick Fallon on the bench.
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Post by jj on Aug 7, 2017 11:07:27 GMT
Can't really add much to the excellent match reports by AJ, Swanny and Pete other than to add my disgust at the foul on Chaney which could have ended his career (hard to believe some folk reckon that he got his just deserts in playing in a man's game). One hopes that will be the last time we see that ref at Plainmoor, absolute disgrace. Whilst we were reasonably strong at the back, I thought we didn't create enough up front and I think (and stand to be corrected) that Jamie Reid's strike on 75 minutes was our first 'serious' shot on target. Nicho, please stop the two people 'pretending' to take the free kick training ground move, it ain't working and stick Fallon on the bench. Agree, with your report. I think Reid and or Gary should start up front and stick Fallon on the bench. Tranmere were an aggressive side Fallon I think can hold his own in situations like that.
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Post by jerry on Aug 7, 2017 11:45:27 GMT
Can't really add much to the excellent match reports by AJ, Swanny and Pete other than to add my disgust at the foul on Chaney which could have ended his career (hard to believe some folk reckon that he got his just deserts in playing in a man's game). One hopes that will be the last time we see that ref at Plainmoor, absolute disgrace. Whilst we were reasonably strong at the back, I thought we didn't create enough up front and I think (and stand to be corrected) that Jamie Reid's strike on 75 minutes was our first 'serious' shot on target. Nicho, please stop the two people 'pretending' to take the free kick training ground move, it ain't working and stick Fallon on the bench. The idea behind the two person free kick routine (which every football club in the world uses) is that you have a left footer and a right footer in order to sow doubt in the keepers mind. If there is only one option the keeper can predict the flight of the ball and come to collect it much more easily.
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Post by chelstongull on Aug 7, 2017 15:35:14 GMT
Can't really add much to the excellent match reports by AJ, Swanny and Pete other than to add my disgust at the foul on Chaney which could have ended his career (hard to believe some folk reckon that he got his just deserts in playing in a man's game). One hopes that will be the last time we see that ref at Plainmoor, absolute disgrace. Whilst we were reasonably strong at the back, I thought we didn't create enough up front and I think (and stand to be corrected) that Jamie Reid's strike on 75 minutes was our first 'serious' shot on target. Nicho, please stop the two people 'pretending' to take the free kick training ground move, it ain't working and stick Fallon on the bench. The idea behind the two person free kick routine (which every football club in the world uses) is that you have a left footer and a right footer in order to sow doubt in the keepers mind. If there is only one option the keeper can predict the flight of the ball and come to collect it much more easily. Then we need to practice it better or give up as ain't working.
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