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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 13:18:35 GMT
A key figure in the negotiations that helped conclude the agreement with G.I, as well as masterminding the watertight deal which means there's no need to worry about being homeless while our new super stadium is being constructed, was our good friend, Peter Masters. It's quite incredible to reflect on the sorry state that Truro City were in; ground sold to property developers and about £4 million worth of debts, before Pete turned up and set about the arduous task of sorting the mess out. That renowned Cornish spirit and an attitude of 'All For One, And One For All', sees a local college, Cornish Pirates RFC, and Truro City all working together on a new £10 million stadium with high grade community facilities and sports pitches. With the agreement signed, scones (with cream on top of the jam, naturally) and a few cups of Cornish tea, were enjoyed by all. Well done Truro, and congratulations to Mr.Masters on another great piece of business as he takes care of his football club. link - Masterful Pete, Another Great Deal
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Post by Rob on Apr 12, 2017 13:31:56 GMT
Well done Cornish Pirates coming to the rescue, as Pete's watertight negotiation prowess rendered Truro homeless and screwed without you, as he himself seemed to indicate the other week. I believe they are a bit better supported than the mighty TICS. Mind you, as a few may recall from your Chris Roberts fan club days, you quite like the idea of TUFC by the seafront, AJ.
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Post by simonb on Apr 12, 2017 13:57:48 GMT
Perhaps we will groundshare with them ? It sounds a truly magnificent project - just hope the £10 million can stretch to accommodate the stunningly big crowds Truro get - will there be one or two rows of seats I wonder (if anything ever materialises)!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 14:06:36 GMT
Rob If they do, then let's hope they'll have the honesty to post any such 'recollections' directly to the Fake News thread .
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Post by Rob on Apr 12, 2017 16:14:27 GMT
Rob If they do, then let's hope they'll have the honesty to post any such 'recollections' directly to the Fake News thread . No good being in denial now, AJ. That's no good for anyone after the event.
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Post by simonb on Apr 12, 2017 16:46:07 GMT
Sadly I think we can all see where the club is heading, CO and his slimey gang of chancers do not care and will not invest anything to secure the club's future. They will exploit everything they can to swell the coffers but not those of TUFC. All we will get is meaningless and undelivered platitudes as the club sinks into anonymity!
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Post by Rob on Apr 26, 2017 23:07:12 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2017 8:36:07 GMT
rob It doesn't need Poirot to detect Trust fingerprints all over this, Rob . We're aware that Supporters Direct and The Guardian are virtually joined at the hip, and all the familiar connections are evident again here. We've all got our own ideas on just how few investigative journalistic hours went into the recent Observer (owned by Guardian Media Group) article. Just as we can all estimate whether any non Trust members at all were spoken to, or opinions sought, when compiling it, plus the lack of effort re fact checking as far as distinguishing what was applicable to a previous regime and what could be laid at GI's door. So we wonder who supplied staceywest.net with their info. We note that the author boasts that "I’ve been published in the Observer" (well knock me down with a feather,who would have guessed ?) and would anyone seriously suggest that he's not also a member of Imps Trust ?? On the same day it's published, someone called Hayden Jones comments on Staceywest.net on what a 'Great piece' it is.......not a tad one sided or biased in your opinion Hayden ? Well rounded, covering other viewpoints ? Well of course not...t's another Guardianista/Trust propaganda piece, which a friendly Lincolnshire Guardianista was only too willing to adapt for his own audience. staceywest.net, we declare you to be a Lincolnshire offshoot of the Ministry of Tust. You win this week's 'Puppy Dog Certificate' (sponsored by Guardian Media Group) for propaganda services to TUST.
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Post by jerry on Apr 27, 2017 9:24:59 GMT
Keep on banging your left wing/Guardian conspiracy theory drum Joe.
Strangely you seem to ignore any mention of the Torygraph article.
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Post by Rob on Apr 27, 2017 12:00:49 GMT
Below the Lincoln City fan's blog post in full:
"Our own National League fight is over. We’ve been to our lowest point and somehow we’ve battled back form the brink and now have a solid foundation on which to build a successful future. 270 miles away on the English Riviera, things are very different indeed. Torquay United, a club not dissimilar from our own, are fighting a battle for their very existence.
On the pitch defeat against us left them looking dead and buried. I thought they were resilient and dogged, and were beaten as much by our momentum as anything. They didn’t look like relegation fodder, but with three games to go it was hard to see how anything other than three wins could save them. Braintree and North Ferriby might have presented good opportunities to bag some points, but Dover away?
On Saturday they did the unthinkable and beat Dover at Crabble. It was only the second time they’d won back-to-back games this season (ironically the first time was against Braintree and Dover). It left them with their destiny in their own hands, a scenario that looked incredibly unlikely just ten days earlier. A victory against relegated North Ferriby will seal their place in the National League next season. Whilst that may look like an almighty battle won, it is but a small victory in the ongoing war for the future of their football club.
Torquay had a brief spell in exile before we did, but with the financial backing of two lottery winning fans the club regained their Football League status. They invested in the ground too, and it seemed a bright future awaited. Unfortunately one of the fans, Paul Bristow, passed away in 2010. His wife Thea eventually sold the club to a group of well-meaning local businessmen for £1. The cracks began to appear quickly, and the consortium soon began to break up. The club had become too reliant on the steady flow of money from their rich patrons, and when that well ran dry the fragile business model was exposed. Relegation back to the fifth tier followed.
Current Barrow manager Paul Cox allegedly agreed to take over in 2015 for ‘expenses only’, but he left after just three months citing that he’d had no money at all. Current boss Kevin Nicholson took over, a rookie former left back with little to no managerial experience. They fought against the drop last season, escaping at the death. Since then the battle against the dreaded drop has been the number two priority. Number one priority? The same as ours was a couple of seasons ago; financial survival. Whereas we had the drive and determination of Bob Dorrian to keep us going, Torquay’s owners had to borrow heavily. Just before Christmas in 2016 they put their shares in the club up as collateral to borrow almost £150,000, and then finally they relinquished control to a businessman to avoid going into administration. That businessman is Clarke Osborne.
If you haven’t heard of Mr Osborne, he is the owner of a company called Gaming International. You may have heard their name linked with several controversial stadium deals in the past, from helping to ease Bristol Rovers to Twerton Park in Bath for a decade, to the closure of greyhound and speedway tracks across the south of the country. Far from being the benevolent and positive influence a football club needs in their hour of need, they hang over Plainmoor with a cape and scythe cackling manically as the club slips through its fans fingers. Osborne may have arrived at Torquay promising financial input in a bid to stave off relegation, but the transfer window came and went without a penny being handed to the beleaguered Nicholson.
Now fans are more than concerned for GI’s plans for their Plainmoor home. They have leased it from Torbay council for almost 100 years, and they deny he has made an official approach about buying it from them, but it’s widely reported there have been informal talks. Fans are understandably twitchy. It was reported in the Guardian that Osborne said the council want “to see a successful club and facilities, whether they are here [at Plainmoor] or elsewhere”. Given his track record of knocking things down and not replacing them, that sounds like the first bars of a funeral march for Plainmoor.
Torquay fans are now fighting as hard off the pitch as their players are on it. There is an online petition being raised, urging Torbay mayor Gordon Oliver not to sell the freehold on the ground. Their anger has been exasperated by the silence emanating from their so-called benefactor. Only today has he decided to reach out to the fans with his concerns, an ill-timed gesture given they are approaching the most important game in the clubs history. Speaking to the local paper he said:
“I am not ‘Genghis Khan’. I can absolutely understand that supporters may be concerned and even sceptical. After all, who am I in their eyes? I do understand the emotional attachment, the history and people’s connection with Plainmoor, but by no measure in today’s world can the stadium stand up in a position for a sustainable League football club. It can’t. It is going to take a while, but a new stadium is a cornerstone of the club’s future, not because it might look good, but for all the people who will come to it and create new revenues there. All I can do is reassure everyone again that the club will only move from Plainmoor after a new stadium is built.”
His words will fall on deaf ears though, with fans only having the company’s appalling track record to go on and nothing more. His may speak about not moving until a new ground is found, but try telling that to the greyhound enthusiasts of Bristol who didn’t get their new facilities, or the speedway fans of Reading suffering a similar fate. When words can’t be believed then past actions have to be used to gauge an idea of what the future holds, and should Torbay council sell the freehold to Plainmoor then the future of the club looks bleak, whether they beat North Ferriby on Saturday or not.
It isn’t the idea of leaving Plainmoor that is so disturbing for Torquay fans. The ground must have the smallest footprint of anywhere in the top five divisions of English football. There has been talk of a move out to Nightingale Park off the A380 for many years. It isn’t ideal, the ground is boggy and part marshland but it has been discussed. The fear is that those looking to orchestrate the move seem to have little or no interest or passion for the Gulls. This isn’t a lifelong fan taking the helm, steadying the relegation threatened ship and looking for calmer waters, it is a silent assassin sneaking in quietly and waiting for a club to die. Now they’ve shown signs of life he’s popped up in the local paper with his threadbare promises. I understand the fans fears.
I’m not a Torquay fan, but I am a football fan and I identify with those who are battling to save the club. Bob Dorrian took an awful lot of stick in his early years as chairman but one thing was never in doubt; his passion for Lincoln City Football Club. Now, as we achieve the success we’ve battled for, it is time to show solidarity to other clubs who have not been as fortunate to have owners who care. Gaming International must not be allowed to buy the freehold for Plainmoor when they’ve shown such little regard for the fate of the club. They must not be allowed to undermine the fans of the club who have stuck by them through thick and thin, and they must not be allowed to devalue the solid work a rookie manager has put in on limited funds whilst the owners give him the cold shoulder.
I implore all readers of the Stacey West to sign the petition and show solidarity to a football club just like our own. There, for the grace of god, go I. We’re all Imps, but on a wider stage we’re all lower league football fans and we need to make a stand against the greed and indifference throttling our grass roots game".
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Post by simonb on Apr 27, 2017 12:11:29 GMT
Good to see such articles as those from Stacey Webb, the Guardian and the Observer. Pity the HE is such an impotent rag theses days though. Soon there will be nobody left to suck-up to GI (except GI Joe of course)!
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Post by midlandstufc on Apr 27, 2017 16:35:19 GMT
#Rob - the best post ever.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2017 17:05:58 GMT
I'm sure that by tomorrow normal service will be resumed and it'll be straight back to criticising the new owners of the club who helped us avoid Administration and the certainty of relegation that the accompanying points deduction would have meant. Just how could the previous Board have made such a decision that's brought about this result ?
Well just for this evening why not ask yourself another question ? Why not take a moment to ponder on the consecutive relegations of York City, about to spend their Summer looking forward to the delights of big time National League North football. Who handed over the reins to their owner ? Who sold 75% of the clubs shares to him so that he could take charge ? Who still owns 25% ? and who have obviously played a very very central part in the 'catastrophe' (I surely hope they've been using that word over recent months) that's befallen that club ?
#SustainableSuccess #ClimbingWithClarke
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Post by Swanny on Apr 29, 2017 18:36:47 GMT
Some good valid points made by Alpine Joe and perhaps fans should recognise that GI have not been all bad news. Perhaps the fans forums should keep more of a balanced view about GI rather than just making them out to be the bad guys. It will be an interesting close season, that's for sure.
I will now read your match report and photos from today's match Alpine Joe, they always make me chuckle.
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Post by chelstongull on Apr 29, 2017 18:56:16 GMT
and perhaps fans should recognise that GI have not been bad news Are you having a laugh. Bad news is putting it mildly How many stadiums have they fecking built...NONE
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