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Post by rjdgull on Aug 29, 2015 7:29:36 GMT
Amazing to think that just three years ago, this fixture was a league 2 play off semi final which shows how far both clubs have fallen. The line up for the first leg was: A really good team that, the rise of Eunan has been phenomenal, on the bench that day, now playing in the premiership and started in the team that beat West Ham last week for their first ever Premiership points! Back to this game and Cheltenham have had no less than 17 signings with a big clear out although have retained 9 players so once again go into this with a larger squad than us. We have spoke about Downes this week, already scored one goal for them but conceded an own goal this week. Their last signing was young centre back Rob Dickie on loan from Reading who was able to come on as a second half substitute last week to head home their winner against Barrow. Cheltenham have had a solid if unspectacular start with two wins and three draws and are therefore unbeaten. However, have had a much easier start than us with Lincoln, ninth and Chester eleventh being the highest ranked teams played so far with their two wins coming at home against 20th placed Barrow and bottom side Southport! Maybe still gelling together, maybe are only a mid ranked team this season and perhaps the game today will shed more light on things? As for Torquay, Fairhurst will be out for both bank holiday matches and I expect the same team for Torquay to start. According to the Herald, could be a few changes in the Cheltenham line up and Johnson is not adverse to the wing back system either.... link
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Post by chelstongull on Aug 29, 2015 7:52:10 GMT
Amazing to think that just three years ago, this fixture was a league 2 play off semi final which shows how far both clubs have fallen. The line up for the first leg was: Indeed, but what a team Kee and O'Kane on the bench, ah happy days. IF we can play for 90 minutes, then I fancy 3 points, fail to play and .........
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 8:20:07 GMT
Indeed, happy days. Days which we think will never end...but which sadly always do. Strangely enough, it seems to happen to us more than all the others!
We knew that the opening 7/8 games were going to be difficult, so yet another one today.
Going for a 2:2 score line, with 2301 at the match.
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Post by rjdgull on Aug 29, 2015 8:53:55 GMT
Indeed, happy days. Days which we think will never end...but which sadly always do. Strangely enough, it seems to happen to us more than all the others!
We knew that the opening 7/8 games were going to be difficult, so yet another one today.
Going for a 2:2 score line, with 2301 at the match.
Hopefully, good away support today, maybe 500-600 odd? Perhaps to swell the crowd to 2300-2500?
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Post by rjdgull on Aug 29, 2015 9:29:57 GMT
I see that Downes has given an interview on the Cheltenham site on his return here - linkWorth noting that they played 3-5-2 in the second half against Barrow ! Will be interesting to see how we match up against a similar formation!
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Post by hullgull on Aug 29, 2015 12:46:14 GMT
Afternoon campers.......as per usual going for a comfortable 3 points today.slowly but surely this squad beginning to get yo know each other.....so cmon you gulls......and cmon you hull kr in final,massive underdogs in that.....si
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Post by Rob on Aug 29, 2015 13:10:58 GMT
We will have to defend corners well with Downes and this clever Dickie about.
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Post by simonb on Aug 29, 2015 15:38:01 GMT
Sadly this performance is really not very good. Optimism levels depressed!
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Post by hullgull on Aug 29, 2015 15:53:01 GMT
Sadly this performance is really not very good. Optimism levels depressed! Your depressed,I am doubly depressed today .....our beloved gulls got beat.....and my rugby team got hammered at Wembley.......not a good day.......si
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Post by rjdgull on Aug 29, 2015 16:46:59 GMT
Bit of a shocker today with a well below par performance as we did not seem to be able to play against 10 men and a couple of goal keeping errors gifted then an unassailable lead. I think Cheltenham started the better side with Smith picking up a yellow with a late tackle that caused a bit of bad blood that was compounded a bit later when after about 10 minutes McLennan was sent off for a similar late challenge. The difference in this case being that McDonald had already slid in on the floor and therefore was construed to be a dangerous challenge. Although that put Cheltenham back, we were not able to dominate at all and our best chance came from an Exodus throw which their keeper scrambled away. The goal we conceded was a poor one. An innocuous challenge led to a free kick that was swung in to the six yard box, Spiess came out for it but with a mass of bodies converging he was unable to get near the ball and a padded header was enough to divert it into the goal but would have been a simple catch on the line. That gave Cheltenham a lot of confidence and they never looked back. In the second half we went back to 4-4-2 with Briscoe and Shepherd coming back on but again were unable to create much. Their second goal after an hour was a travesty. The ball was kicked long out of their area back to Butler in our half but with acres of space. One of their players went down holding his head in typical time wasting tactics and the 'ref waited until Butler had the ball and the opportunity to counterattack to blow his whistle for treatment. He then restarted play back in our half and gestured for Cheltenham to knock the ball back to Spiess. However, the ball was then kicked out deep into our half for a throw in where they could pressure us. Really bad from an uncontested drop ball but no sanction. Exodus then throw the ball back to Spiess and from mild pressure kicked the ball straight to a Cheltenham player which then led to an one on one with Spiess and after a tangle of bodies the ball was slotted home. We were really struggling then and had to push forward, . Leaving holes at the back which Cheltenham exploited but again we could not create a head of pressure. From a breakaway, Spires again had a one on one and although may have got the ball? Then caught their forward and conceded a penalty that he never looked like saving. So that was that. Thought their keeper had a really good match, never spilled the ball once. Downes did well as well. Hurst had a good shot saved from some good movement but that was about it...
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Post by rjdgull on Aug 29, 2015 18:51:48 GMT
Unsurprisingly Cox is annoyed! linkAnd that is putting it mildly!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 18:56:23 GMT
Well, if nothing else, we have to commend the club on the speed of updating the OS and the openness that now exists. I've never been one to dwell on misfortune. Today's gone so let's look forward to Monday and hope PC gets it right and gets some luck to go with it.
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Post by bristolgull on Aug 29, 2015 21:45:33 GMT
Poor form from Cheltenham for the second goal. Never liked Johnson and hate losing to his sides. We were not good enough today clearly and Cox is not hiding behind excuses so fair play to that. Hopefully Monday will see an improvement, we may not win but I would expect to see an improvement.
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Post by chelstongull on Aug 30, 2015 7:03:47 GMT
Well what can you say after that embarrassment of a game?
Thank gawd that Cheltenham only had 10 men on the field and that they missed a couple of sitters as it could have been 5 – 0. I assume Downes was let go for wage reasons as he was right on top of his game today (mind you we played the ball in the air, meat and drink chum, meat and drink) and got a good appreciation before and after the game.
Not sure Cox got his tactics right today by playing so many high ball against a very tall team.
The FA need to change the way the deal with ‘head injuries’. I’m not suggesting that they don’t stop the game but change the way they deal with the aftermath. Firstly the player with the ‘head injury’ should be examined by a doctor and be off the field for a minimum of 5 minutes and play should restart with a free kick from where the ball was when the ref blew his whistle.
This game reminded me of the Newport PSF where it looked like then and now of 11 players who have just met for the first time.
I think it took until the 85th minute for the Cheltenham keeper ‘had’ to make a save. Most if not all other shots were straight at him.
On the final whistle Exodus was straight down the tunnel with no post match handshakes with the opposition and officials. Isn’t that part of the captain’s game? Thought he looked tired from about the 10 minute mark.
Poor crowd c2000 odd, with 250 from Cheltenham. The worry is that we this type of fayre served up crowds will dwindle below the much commented 1800.
Can’t see us getting anything from the Eastleigh game – 6 points from the play offs and 4 from the bottom 4!
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Post by Ditmar van Nostrilboy on Aug 30, 2015 8:06:00 GMT
Hmmmmm. I certainly didnt think we were 3 goals worse than Cheltenham. We started in a very solid fashion and didnt look to be having any problems at the back. I think the 3 centrebacks works quite well and thought we looked more disjointed once the formation changed. Pointless trying to rewrite the past but was Ricey honestly any worse between the sticks? Surely Dan has to feature soon. Also thought the midfield looked a bit lightweight, though Carmichael looks like he could be quite useful with a bit more experience. Same goes for Quigley who seemed to want an extra touch every time he had the ball. Without the keeper having a major off day, I'm not sure we would have lost to be honest.
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