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Post by gullone on Sept 17, 2014 16:46:20 GMT
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Post by gullone on Sept 17, 2014 16:49:17 GMT
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Post by gullone on Sept 17, 2014 16:51:10 GMT
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Post by gullone on Sept 17, 2014 16:52:47 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2014 7:54:11 GMT
"Babes in the " Wood" at the Royal Theatre; "Chasing Rainbows" at the Electric Cinema. You could have been forgiven a few weeks ago for thinking that may have summed up Torquay United's prospects for the current season.
There's plenty of gossip in the Recorder's "News and Views" column; the Christmas holiday meaning the content isn't as normal. Bruce, the former Torquay player now at Colwyn Bay United, was Harry Bruce who had played relatively frequently during the 1929/30 season. He did get back in the Football League, but not for long, and ended up managing in Sweden during the late 1930s. Colwyn Bay won their league in 1930/31 before stepping up to Midlands football. Perhaps they had offered Harry a tidy sum to leave Plainmoor.
Rather than Richard Dix of Bristol Rovers that's probably Ronnie Dix who went on to play for Blackburn, Aston Villa, Derby County, Spurs and Reading. He also played once for England. He scored for Rovers as a fifteen-year-old; the proposed move to Everton in 1931 ended in a legal furore.
Exeter were apparently prepared to do business for some of their players once they were out of the FA Cup. That would be a fair while yet. City went all the way to a sixth round replay. Any link between Herbert Chapman's Arsenal and Exeter probably dated from the transfer of Cliff Bastin.
There's all sorts of quaint journalese: "The Metropolis at present leads all other counties as regards centre-forwards who are scoring prolifically". The Recorder writes in the style of a " man in the know"; you wonder if it's more a case of him spending hours poring over the Sunday Chronicle and the Empire News in his front parlour.
"Scholes United Mixture straight from the jar" sounds like a suitable description of a latter-day footballer who was a long way out of our league. But 1930s smokers, seeking this "choice medium blend", needed only to seek out the Black Cat Craven sign on St Marychurch Road; a mere minute from "the field".
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Post by bluedragon on Sept 18, 2014 19:55:46 GMT
This programme archive is fascinating - thank you!
Nothing to do with the Gulls but sometimes I see a name and can't stop myself! Sorry!
In this programme the William Birrell mentioned as manager of Bournemouth is Billy Birrell who was an inside right for Raith Rovers and Middlesbrough in his playing days and actually had two games in Scottish international trials while on Teeside. He managed Raith Rovers before joining Bournemouth. He stayed there until April 1935 when he joined QPR. He then became Chelsea manager a few months before the outbreak of World War Two and I think was still there after the War.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2014 9:07:54 GMT
In this programme the William Birrell mentioned as manager of Bournemouth is Billy Birrell who was an inside right for Raith Rovers and Middlesbrough in his playing days and actually had two games in Scottish international trials while on Teeside. He managed Raith Rovers before joining Bournemouth. He stayed there until April 1935 when he joined QPR. He then became Chelsea manager a few months before the outbreak of World War Two and I think was still there after the War. Good morning, Bluedragon, possibly after a long night. You're perfectly welcome and entitled to head off on a tangent regarding Billy Birrell. Most of us here wander off in all sorts of directions. So I'm now looking for a link between Birrell and Torquay United. All I can manage is this. When Birrell was manager of Chelsea he signed a goalkeeper called Harry Medhurst from West Ham. Medhurst later became Chelsea's physio; his son eventually fulfilled the same role at Plainmoor. It's tenuous but it's a start. |
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Post by bluedragon on Sept 19, 2014 17:49:10 GMT
Thanks for your understanding Barton and you were right a long night last night! Turning to Birrell and Torquay connections and how about this one?
Billy Birrell was appointed QPR manager on 16th April 1935 and his first match in charge was on 19th April 1935 (Good Friday?) at home to........Torquay United and a 5-1 win - stay with me it gets better! On the Saturday it was a 5-1 defeat at Bristol City and on the Monday - this is the best bit! - a 7-0 defeat at Torquay! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2014 19:26:41 GMT
Billy Birrell was appointed QPR manager on 16th April 1935 and his first match in charge was on 19th April 1935 (Good Friday?) at home to........Torquay United and a 5-1 win - stay with me it gets better! On the Saturday it was a 5-1 defeat at Bristol City and on the Monday - this is the best bit! - a 7-0 defeat at Torquay! Nice one! The 7-0 I mean. Not the Good Friday drubbing. Nor, as it happens, the 2-4 defeat at Millwall on the Saturday. Christmas had been eventful too that season. A 7-1 home victory against Crystal Palace on Christmas Day; a 2-2 draw up there on Boxing Day; a 5-0 win over Gillingham on 29 December. Mind you none of that Ne'erday business for us in those days. I'm sure there's a North Glasgow Gull. I've seen the flag. Had he been around in the 1930s he would have had a rare chance to see us play. We made it as far north as Wigan in the FA Cup that season |
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