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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2012 12:46:04 GMT
Amazon? Bah!
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Post by Jon on Dec 18, 2012 19:10:24 GMT
The option to download should appear there. Thanks for that - downloaded. Now my problem is that my desire to be better informed is at odds with my inability to concentrate on anything longer than two paragraphs. I STILL haven't finished reading the full Hillsborough Report and I haven't even started on "The Wealth of Nations" yet.
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Post by Jon on Dec 18, 2012 19:14:36 GMT
I hope you don't think that a boycott of Amazon will do any good whatsoever. Have you and your bearded vegetarian friends not realised that the independent bookshops and record shops that you frequent between consuming fair trade organic coffees are owned by stinking capitalist pigs who exploit their workers?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2012 19:19:51 GMT
Pah to the Wealth of Nations and yah boo to the Hillsborough report. Was Adam Smith a Torquay supporter? I don't think so.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2012 19:22:52 GMT
I hope you don't think that a boycott of Amazon will do any good whatsoever. Have you and your bearded vegetarian friends not realised that the independent bookshops and record shops that you frequent between consuming fair trade organic coffees are owned by stinking capitalist pigs who exploit their workers? Well, if you put it that way................................
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Post by lambethgull on Dec 18, 2012 19:37:47 GMT
I hope you don't think that a boycott of Amazon will do any good whatsoever. Have you and your bearded vegetarian friends not realised that the independent bookshops and record shops that you frequent between consuming fair trade organic coffees are owned by stinking capitalist pigs who exploit their workers? Small bookshop proprietors are petit bourgeois, and many of them are unscrupulous wretches who would purchase an original copy of Mr Smith's Wealth of Nations found in an attic clearance for 50p ("only really a market for Penguins these days"). But fair play to Wildebeest for not including Amazon in his list of tax dodging firms the other day ;D
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2012 19:52:38 GMT
But fair play to Wildebeest for not including Amazon in his list of tax dodging firms the other day ;D It was only lack of space, I promise.
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Post by Ditmar van Nostrilboy on Dec 18, 2012 20:47:39 GMT
Was Adam Smith a Torquay supporter? I don't think so. 18 appearances for us in the 09/10 season though
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2012 22:11:06 GMT
Not this one, though. On the left Adam Smith, and right Adam Murray, modelling Mansfield's sub-Torquay kits for the 2011/2 season. Surely nobody wants to read a book written by a Mansfield reject?
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Post by Ditmar van Nostrilboy on Dec 18, 2012 23:04:54 GMT
Our former one is currently on loan at Milwall So thats where Murray is plying his trade nowadays...
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Post by Dave on Dec 19, 2012 11:56:08 GMT
I do happen to think the system must be at fault if people who do CHOOSE to stay at home and not work( and there are people like that I'm afraid) end up better off then those who choose to go to work. It would be at fault if it were true, Dave, but it isn't. And it is a myth that anyone other than a few eccentrics would choose to stay at home, watch Jeremy Kyle rather than meeting real people and live on an income which is not enough to feed oneself and pay the fuel bills never mind have any left over for leisure activities. Shameless self-promotion time now. I have written a book on this very subject and you are welcome to read it. It'll cost nowt because it's available online. Just send me a PM if you are interested and I'll show you how. An extra bonus prize is on offer if you get beyond the first chapter. Thanks for putting up the link to your book, I will read it over the weekend and then add my thoughts again on this thread. I hope to catch a debate on the J.Vine show today that looks like its going to be an interesting one. It is being suggested that Benefits are paid onto a special card that can't be use to buy Drink, fags, gambling, sky TV etc. Now that is something that I'm sure would upset a lot of people if it ever happened.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2012 13:06:08 GMT
NUMBER CRUNCHING TIME
Recent pay offs after sack/resignation:
Jose Mourinho £20 million Andre Vilas Boas £13.3 million Luis Felipe Scolari £12.6 million Rebekah Brooks £10.8 million Carlos Ancelotti £6 million Avram Grant £3 million Roberto di Matteo £2.5 million George Entwistle £450,000 Staff at Purple Leopard computer repair shop, Chesterfield £0
A few annual wages/salaries:
Simon Cowell £58 million Wayne Rooney £15 million Carlos Tevez £12 million Cheryl Cole £11 million Alex Ferguson £9.3 million Theo Walcott £3.6 million Stephen Hester (RBS) £3.2 million Gary Lineker £2 million Mark Carney £874,000 Fred Goodwin (pension) £650,000 David Cameron £142,000 Alex Salmond £140,800 Nick Clegg £134,500 Ed Miliband £132,300 Social Security Tribunal Judge (pro rata) £112,000 Local authority welfare rights worker £28,000 Recipient of high rate DLA care & mobility components £6,800 JSA claimant aged 25 to 62 £3,700 JSA claimant aged 18 to 24 £2,900 Unemployed and aged 16 or 17 £0
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Post by stefano on Dec 21, 2012 16:37:28 GMT
That is absolutely disgraceful Wilderbeeste! The Prime Minister should be paid a lot more than that!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2012 17:30:55 GMT
Ha! Don't worry about Dave; his missus is worth a few bob herself...............
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Post by Dave on Dec 22, 2012 8:21:32 GMT
Recipient of high rate DLA care & mobility components £6,800 JSA claimant aged 25 to 62 £3,700 JSA claimant aged 18 to 24 £2,900 Unemployed and aged 16 or 17 £0 That's not really a true picture is it? while it might be for some I'm sure, for others when you add on all the other benefits that can be claimed, there will be some who are better off staying at home than going to work. Its even more the case based on the number of children in a family and I know that as a fact. I did listen to the debate I was going to in the week, it happened to be a conservative MP who has suggested that all benefits should be paid out on a card that can't be used to by drink, fags, gambling, sky TV etc. But it could be used to buy food, clothes, fuel, transport etc. While the whole idea stinks of big brother, or living in a nanny state, the point he made about he felt the state should not be paying for people to drink and smoke etc, was in my view a valid one. I was speaking to an ex shop owner the other day who had a general store right in the middle of a council estate, he told me his best day of the week was the day the benefits were paid out. A good number would stock out with beer and fags and so often when the children asked for some sweets, were told there was no money to buy any. I'm not for one second suggesting that is the case for most who find themselves living on benefits, but it is something that does go on and so often the money given to ensure the children do not live in poverty, is not being spent on the children themselves.
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