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Post by bristolgull on Nov 24, 2012 16:21:31 GMT
Have I entered a twilight zone or has oastler just scored?!!!??!
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Post by tufc01 on Nov 24, 2012 16:40:35 GMT
Lathrope replacing Jarvis. Protecting the 2 goal lead?, no matter which way it goes from here great decision by Lingy.
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Post by Dave on Nov 24, 2012 16:54:34 GMT
We could not ask anymore of our players today, who after playing poorly last week, have put that behind them and won today’s game that was never going to be easy game to win. Our defence sounds to have played very well and Poke made a number of good saves. We do need to try and build on today’s results and try and carry all that was good about us, into our next home game.
A good encouraging away performance, well done lads, well done Martin Ling
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Post by bristolgull on Nov 24, 2012 16:56:36 GMT
Great result which at least stops the rot. Well done boys and I look forward to reading the reports.
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Post by ohtobeatplainmoor on Nov 24, 2012 16:58:53 GMT
Great stuff. Tough match today - glad for those Gulls up north to be able to enjoy a solid away performance.
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Post by rjdgull on Nov 24, 2012 17:08:31 GMT
Well overdue away win which is mainly where we have struggled from last year. Looking forward to the match reports but sounded like a good defensive performance coupled with taking our chances. Safe journey to those driving back through a lot of inclement weather.
Suddenly, a home win next weekend will put us right back up there and while things have been very up and down this season, we continue to punch above our weight in this division and this could be another good campaign!
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Post by simonb on Nov 24, 2012 17:15:33 GMT
Relief ;D Well done one and all - sure the journey home will be joyous!
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Post by stefano on Nov 24, 2012 17:18:42 GMT
Well I hope that has lifted the doom and gloom. James doesn't seem happy already. He seems to be changing into Brucie. As for last week conceding 4 against Southend, in the 2 games they have played since they have rattled in another 7 goals, so perhaps they are just a bloody good team in hot pursuit of Gillingham and we caught them at a bad time. Home game next week and with most of the other teams in the division not playing a win will put us right back up there (and above Exeter City as we approach our second home dery of the season). Indeed 3 of the next 4 at home so I am looking forward to a cheerful Christmas using the league table as a place mat to keep me focussed!
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Post by ajaxgull on Nov 24, 2012 17:21:46 GMT
The internet certainly attracts some numptys !!!!
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Post by lambethgull on Nov 24, 2012 17:26:59 GMT
Great result, well done Lingy and the boys ;D
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Post by petef on Nov 24, 2012 18:17:16 GMT
Three points further away from the drop zone thank goodness and that in essence is my only concern at this point in the season. Looking at the result a goal in each half and a win on the road, a rare beast this season but then you have to look at the match stats (Posssesion 61 to 39% - shots 14 to our 2 with 7 of theirs on target to our 2 both of which went in! 12 corners to our 2 It sounds like daylight robbery.) Its then you realise that this was a less convincing performance in footballing terms and it looks like hard work, a resolute defence and lady luck played a big part. So a big well doe to all of the players who dug in and ground it out it was a very important result.
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Post by jmgull on Nov 24, 2012 18:30:18 GMT
Three points further away from the drop zone thank goodness and that in essence is my only concern at this point in the season. Looking at the result a goal in each half and a win on the road, a rare beast this season but then you have to look at the match stats (Posssesion 61 to 39% - shots 14 to our 2 with 7 of theirs on target to our 2 both of which went in! 12 corners to our 2 It sounds like daylight robbery.) Its then you realise that this was a less convincing performance in footballing terms and it looks like hard work, a resolute defence and lady luck played a big part. So a big well doe to all of the players who dug in and ground it out it was a very important result. Pete, those bbc stats are famously inaccurate - we sounded pretty comfortable for most of the game - damn sure I heard us have more than 2 shots the whole game - I can remember Howe having one deflected narrowly over the bar for a start. York are a decent lge 2 side, we were going to have to defend well to keep a clean sheet - and that we most certainly did by the sound of it. Edit just checked we had 6 shots mate with 2 on target - a nice change for us to be so clinical in front of goal
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Post by JamesB on Nov 24, 2012 18:47:15 GMT
People having a pop are missing the point I was making
It's not about this result - my posts were before the match had finished, for a start. It's about the last one. I saw with my very own eyes Easton and Nicholson deliver terrible performances. In any other team they would have been dropped - because that is what managers are supposed to do; if a player isn't playing well, he shouldn't be picked
Picking them again for this one sets a dangerous precedent - it's a big "f**k you" to Lathrope and Cruise, who have done nothing wrong so far, and it's effectively saying to Easton and Nicho "you can play as awfully as you like but you'll still have a place on the team sheet". How can anyone say this is anything but utterly ridiculous? I just cannot understand why he's doing this. Experience? Nonsense. Experience is the second most overrated attribute in football (behind "passion"); it's why the vast majority of World Cup-winning and Euro-winning sides have been young and inexperienced at that level. A wise old head is only as useful as the body it's attached to. If Ling doesn't realise this, he's an even bigger fool than I thought
It's been my point continuously since the summer - the squad is nowhere near deep enough, especially if Ling is flat refusing to pick half the squad, and therefore there's not enough competition for places or motivation to play particularly well. I really feel sorry for Cruise in particular because he played well when he came on against Southend and deserved a place in the team. Yes, he signed a centre-back on loan (at last) this week, but by this point surely there are other areas that need strengthening. Given the fact that Nicholson was terrible last week and yet he refused to play Cruise today for whatever reason, surely alarm bells must be ringing that we need a left-back. You don't need to be a professional football manager to see that - you just need common sense
Finally, it's also treating the fans with a hell of a lot of contempt - it's Ling effectively saying "hey, you know that terrible performance you saw last weekend? I don't care, and I'm going pick pretty much the same team again. And you won't care because you'll support the team anyway." Well, I'm not buying into that - I saw that performance last weekend and I know what to expect from a manager and a team, and continuing with the same under-performing players is wrong. I can't find it within myself to support a team taking such liberties with its fans - I object to that as a matter of principle, regardless of today's result or performance. Because that's no better than what Abramovich has done this week at Chelsea. I'm sure if it were Buckle taking these decisions rather than Ling, there would be uproar
So if you want to keep being treated like s**t then fine, that's your choice. But I'm not accepting that. Ling will probably come up with some nonsense like "proving the doubters wrong" but it's totally missing the point. As long as he keeps making these decisions, we will continue to lose games - we might have won today, and we may win again next week, but I worry more for the longer term precedents that have been set today by the team Ling picked. That says more about the direction the team's going in than the result
So I'm done. I can't be bothered with this any more
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Post by rjdgull on Nov 24, 2012 18:55:02 GMT
To be fair Pete, in summarising, Dave Thomas thought we were the better side and thought York could have no complaints. Also, with us taking the lead early, there was no need to force the pace and the onus was all on York to attack. Roll on the Daggers!
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Post by rjdgull on Nov 24, 2012 19:07:23 GMT
James, to be fair to Ling, he did say that no one could complain if they were dropped after Southend but he can't drop them all and still has to pick a team that he thinks can win taking into consideration tactical aspects of the match up and three changes were made. Fans just want him to pick a team that will win which is what he did today! I'm not sure that your criticism is entirely justified.....
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