chelstongull
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Post by chelstongull on Oct 20, 2012 8:19:37 GMT
Just seen the cowardly attack on the Sheffield Wednesday 'keeper Chris Kirkland by a so called Leeds Fan - lets hope he gets a long prison sentence, heavy fine and the Leeds fans are banned from away games.
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Post by JamesB on Oct 20, 2012 12:16:50 GMT
Surprised Kirkland isn't out for 6 months after that. Usually is
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Post by Dave on Oct 22, 2012 14:50:34 GMT
So they found out who it was, charged him and put him in court today and sentenced him after he pleaded guilty to the charge of assault and entering the field of play.
It was claimed he downed 'cans of Stella, a bottle of vodka and up to 10 pints of cider' and was so drunk he could not remember the incident. He sure did not look that drunk in the video we have all seen, but it was a crazy act, even if he only pushed Kirkland over and never actually punched him.
This is sure sending out a message to all football fans and I have no problem as such with him going to jail for four months. But are fans being treated here differently from the players? it was not that long ago a TUFC player punched a man to the ground in Torquay and then stamped on his head. That was pure violence and yet the player only got community service.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2012 15:30:06 GMT
I don't understand why the hooligan's being drunk should be put forward as a point in his defence. No-one tied him down and poured the vodka, cider etc down his throat, and if he drinks in order to give him the lack of inhibition to enable him to behave like an idiot then I'd have thought that was an aggravating factor, if anything.
He is very lucky compared to Trenton Oldfield, who got a six-month sentence last week for spoiling the fun of the University boating set even though that was a peaceful protest and he wasn't breaching any banning orders.
There's summat not right there.
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Post by rjdgull on Oct 22, 2012 15:47:27 GMT
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Post by Dave on Oct 22, 2012 16:00:57 GMT
It does say they might only get a fine Rob, we will have to wait and see what their sentence is. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2012 16:31:23 GMT
I think Wildebeeste is correct on the issue of alcohol. But strangely enough, when I had the dubious pleasure of this person's company last year, his behaviour was appalling but I wasn't sure if it was drunken. The solitary desire to brag of his allegiance to Leeds - and to cause as much offence as he could - struck me more than anything else.
I can't quite get over the fact that, not only have I shared a train carriage with him, but that I was also at the game when he sealed his (possibly long-sought) notoriety. Had I been sat closer to him on the train I guess I may have become involved. As it happens, a woman in her fifties challenged his behaviour. She did this extraordinarily well and most bravely. I wrote about it at the time on another Torquay United website and I see I did my best to paraphrase the little speech he gave us before issuing a series of threats as he left the train at Cheltenham. There's something here to suggest that the bloke's whole persona is based around being a Leeds hooligan. Friday's attack can hardly be dismissed as a "drunken accident" on the basis of what I witnessed:
"I don't give a f**k what you say because we are Leeds and your opinion isn't valid. Saturday is the Holy Day. We are football fans. This isn't a f**k**g library and we do what we f**k**g like. I don't give a f**k."
At which point the woman remarked that his outlook was self-evident. She sat down and our friend spread out his arms to sing - all alone - "WE'RE LEEDS UNITED, WE DON'T GIVE A F**K".
I then commented online that, the longer he went on, the smaller and more bloody pathetic he looked. Heavens knows I may have ventured to say something similar had I become involved.
At the time I wasn't sure what to make of the incident partly because I've suffered several examples of boorish football-related behaviour on trains these last two or three years. Usually it comes under the obnoxious, drunken and wholly inappropriate category as opposed to the potentially violent. I'm now amazed that this character was not only breaking his banning order - yet again - but was doing so in such an outrageous way a few miles short of the very railway station where he would be best known. And, as we now learn, just a matter of weeks after a court appearance which followed poor behaviour at the station in Cheltenham. There seems something entirely deliberate about much of this. No doubt poor old Stefano and myself will see the depressing sight of his "memoirs" in Waterstone's in a few years time.
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