Post by Budleigh on May 14, 2011 12:39:48 GMT
Devon County Football Association Handbook 1903-04
I'm a bit reluctant to scan this whole handbook as it is so delicate (but not as delicate as the 1897 one I have!), but it does show a county game played at Torquay on the 21st of October 1903, presumably at the Rec, against Gloucestershire when Devon wore the county colours of green and white.
It also shows Torquay United as an affiliated club as they were members of the East Devon League, with the contact details being for H. Tomney; presumably the Harry Tomney who was the United goalkeeper for the club's first match. (See below for more information on this)
Also shown is Ellacombe C.L.B. (Church Lads' Brigade), the fore-runner of Ellacombe AFC who played at Plainmoor. (see: torquayfansforum.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=tufchistory&thread=3500&page=1)
As to the house name Kassassin that Harry Tomney lived in, the following is of interest; taken from a thread on the internet site www.rootschat.com. I believe 'Guidingspirit' is Jean Austin who put a plea out for information through the Herald Express in November 2010.
Was Edward Stephen Tomney the father of Harry Tomney as Edward is also recorded as living at Kassassin in 1910, the house named after the battle he was involved in during the Egyptian Campaign and which may well have been in Avenue Road, a short distance from the Recreation Ground?
And was he really one of the founders of Torquay United as stated below?
As taken from that website forum :
My great grandfather Edward Stephen Tomney was born on Spike Island in 1849. His parents were John Tomney 1821 and Mary 1817. They had three other children at the time of Edwards birth - Mary 1836 Elizabeth 1840 and John 1848, all were born in Ireland.
I believe that John Tomney must have been serving in the British Army at the time of Edwards birth and that only high ranking officers were allowed to have their families living on the island due to cramped living conditions.
I would love to find out about John Tomney's military career and also wether the children were baptised on the island but really have no idea how or where to access such records.
Can anyone help please ? I never new until recently that I had Irish ancestry and it has filled me with such joy that I would love to trace them.
They are all on the U.K. census forms from 1851 when they moved to Manchester, Lancashire and my great great grandfathers occupation is listed as "Broker". (Guidingspirit)
Edward Stephen Tomney was born in 1849 at Spike Island, Cork, and enlisted as a Boy, aged 14, into the 14th The King’s Hussars on 15 January 1863. He was appointed Trumpeter in December 1868 and transferred to the 2nd Life Guards in 1875. He served with the 2nd Life Guards, as Corporal of Horse, in the Egyptian campaign of 1882, including the infamous ‘moonlight charge’ of the Household cavalry at Kassassin and at the battle of Tel-el-Kebir, where he had his horse shot under him, and at the capture of Cairo. In 1883 he transferred to the Permanent Staff of the Royal 1st Devon Yeomanry and was appointed Trumpet-Major of that unit upon his discharge from the Life Guards in September 1895. Tomney was appointed to Her Majesty’s Yeomen of the Guard on 5 January 1899, and received his m.S.m. whilst still holding that appointement in 1922. (gortonboy)
Yes I know my great grandfather's military history - he also founded Torquay United football club in 1899. (Guidingspirit)
I'm a bit reluctant to scan this whole handbook as it is so delicate (but not as delicate as the 1897 one I have!), but it does show a county game played at Torquay on the 21st of October 1903, presumably at the Rec, against Gloucestershire when Devon wore the county colours of green and white.
It also shows Torquay United as an affiliated club as they were members of the East Devon League, with the contact details being for H. Tomney; presumably the Harry Tomney who was the United goalkeeper for the club's first match. (See below for more information on this)
Also shown is Ellacombe C.L.B. (Church Lads' Brigade), the fore-runner of Ellacombe AFC who played at Plainmoor. (see: torquayfansforum.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=tufchistory&thread=3500&page=1)
As to the house name Kassassin that Harry Tomney lived in, the following is of interest; taken from a thread on the internet site www.rootschat.com. I believe 'Guidingspirit' is Jean Austin who put a plea out for information through the Herald Express in November 2010.
Was Edward Stephen Tomney the father of Harry Tomney as Edward is also recorded as living at Kassassin in 1910, the house named after the battle he was involved in during the Egyptian Campaign and which may well have been in Avenue Road, a short distance from the Recreation Ground?
And was he really one of the founders of Torquay United as stated below?
As taken from that website forum :
My great grandfather Edward Stephen Tomney was born on Spike Island in 1849. His parents were John Tomney 1821 and Mary 1817. They had three other children at the time of Edwards birth - Mary 1836 Elizabeth 1840 and John 1848, all were born in Ireland.
I believe that John Tomney must have been serving in the British Army at the time of Edwards birth and that only high ranking officers were allowed to have their families living on the island due to cramped living conditions.
I would love to find out about John Tomney's military career and also wether the children were baptised on the island but really have no idea how or where to access such records.
Can anyone help please ? I never new until recently that I had Irish ancestry and it has filled me with such joy that I would love to trace them.
They are all on the U.K. census forms from 1851 when they moved to Manchester, Lancashire and my great great grandfathers occupation is listed as "Broker". (Guidingspirit)
Edward Stephen Tomney was born in 1849 at Spike Island, Cork, and enlisted as a Boy, aged 14, into the 14th The King’s Hussars on 15 January 1863. He was appointed Trumpeter in December 1868 and transferred to the 2nd Life Guards in 1875. He served with the 2nd Life Guards, as Corporal of Horse, in the Egyptian campaign of 1882, including the infamous ‘moonlight charge’ of the Household cavalry at Kassassin and at the battle of Tel-el-Kebir, where he had his horse shot under him, and at the capture of Cairo. In 1883 he transferred to the Permanent Staff of the Royal 1st Devon Yeomanry and was appointed Trumpet-Major of that unit upon his discharge from the Life Guards in September 1895. Tomney was appointed to Her Majesty’s Yeomen of the Guard on 5 January 1899, and received his m.S.m. whilst still holding that appointement in 1922. (gortonboy)
Yes I know my great grandfather's military history - he also founded Torquay United football club in 1899. (Guidingspirit)
