Jon
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Post by Jon on Feb 27, 2012 23:21:47 GMT
I must be 35 years ahead of my time. In a similar experiment, I pitted the 1976 TUFC team against the 1970 Brazil team in a game of subbuteo. The result was a clear win for Torquay and pretty conclusive proof that Willie Brown was a more complete no. 10 than Pele. A little more on the tactics that led to the overwhelming victory. Terry Lee would knock the ball out to Steve Morrall standing just inside his own half out on the right hand touchline. Morrall would hit a long diagonal ball to Brown in the inside left position who would do the business. The Brazil midfield (set up in a 4-2-3-1, with Clodoaldo and Gerson behind Jairzinho, Pele and Rivelino) just stood there glued to the spot - quite literally in the case of Rivelino who had been trodden on but patched up with uhu.
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Post by JamesB on Feb 28, 2012 12:12:19 GMT
Shankly ....didn't actually achieve all that much ...... 3 league titles over 15 years, which at a club like Liverpool isn't all that special. Paisley was far more successful. When you take on a run-of-the-mill second division team, three league titles, two FA Cups and a UEFA Cup is quite a spectacular return actually. Depends on how far you want to take it. Liverpool already had 5 titles before Shankly arrived, which was a lot back then. Don't think you could ever describe them as a 'run of the mill' club. I'm aware that it looks like I'm playing it down too much but I think English football has a tendency to romanticise and mythologise particular figures, and Shankly is one of the main ones The one manager of the period who rarely gets the credit he deserves, probably because he didn't manager a glamour club or have a particular way with words, is Stan Cullis at Wolves, with 3 title wins, 2 FA Cups and the defeat of Honved, a European Cup Final in all but name, all at a club without a particular tradition of success before or after. Yes, he did it via long ball, but obviously that was still a tactical plan - there's a difference between a long ball-orientated tactical plan and "keeping it simple". The same goes for Tony Pulis' Stoke - there's more to them than long balls and set pieces
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