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Post by harboursidegull on Mar 5, 2011 21:45:54 GMT
I don't know if you guys have seen this already ...apologies if you have.... but here is Soccer am from our first season in the Blue Square..... The Cross Bar Challenge from a soaked Racecourse.... great fun x
Enjoy !
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Post by loyalgull on Mar 5, 2011 21:55:22 GMT
just when we think the team couldnt win a raffle,they come up with that performance,ok stevenage looked very strong in the early stages,and we didnt exactly set the world alight in the first half,but boy the second half made up for it.Robinson was outstanding today,also played a full 90 minutes as well,overall the team performance in the second half was top notch.I must admit it was a shock taking kee off after just half an hour,kee looked thoroughly annoyed at the decision,there is a strong rumour that PB and kee have had a disagreement regarding kees fitness,an injury that he has been carrying,that being the reason for his substitution.At that time i thought,we are in trouble here,but typical PB just when it seems to be going all wrong,he pulls another rabbit out of the hat,stevens with a cracker,robinson playing like a man possessed,and the new guy pringle putting in a cracking debut,add the others it was good second half performance where we looked for moregoals instead of that tedious inneffective sitting back mallarkey,that has lost us so many points this season,all in all a good day at the office,long may it continue
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Post by ohtobeatplainmoor on Mar 6, 2011 0:18:53 GMT
Absolutely - and it was worth sitting-through the first half for! It was a cracking second half effort and the team were full value for the three points won today.
It wasn't so much that the first half was a non-event, it was just a case that Stevenage strangled the first half in a fairly professional manner. I think that Kee's withdrawal for Stevens was very much a tactical change - and Stevens really did help change the direction of the game - not just with his goal but with the change in the direction the team took and the was the game was taken to them. Their full backs were given a torrid last 45 minutes and we really could have won by more - but 2-0 was great in the end.
Pringle had a tough first half - an industrious and organised Stevange gave absolutely no time on the ball (but offered nothing in terms of creativity themselves). It didn't help that he was sometimes sold short passes and often didn't give him options when he did have the ball. In the second half he really grew as the game went-on and it made a real impact on the game.
Most of the team played well today - but the stand-out player IMO was Stanley - a real nightmare for opposition when they have the ball and great vision and execution when he has the ball. I would be chuffed if he was here next season, he is a cracking League 2 midfielder.
I think that the only thing that put a blemish was the bizarre incident after we won the penalty -Zebs never looked like he would score on the run-up. Hopefully this will be sorted by the manager and coaches and there will be no room for confusion next time.
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Post by loyalgull on Mar 6, 2011 1:32:12 GMT
PB talked about the penalty calamity on radio devon,robinson was instructed to take penalties not zebroski,he made light of it,but i think he was quietly fuming,it could of cost us,but fortunately didnt,i dont think this will happen again somehow
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Post by tufc01 on Mar 6, 2011 10:11:06 GMT
Absolutely - and it was worth sitting-through the first half for! It was a cracking second half effort and the team were full value for the three points won today. It wasn't so much that the first half was a non-event, it was just a case that Stevenage strangled the first half in a fairly professional manner. I think that Kee's withdrawal for Stevens was very much a tactical change - and Stevens really did help change the direction of the game - not just with his goal but with the change in the direction the team took and the was the game was taken to them. Their full backs were given a torrid last 45 minutes and we really could have won by more - but 2-0 was great in the end. Pringle had a tough first half - an industrious and organised Stevange gave absolutely no time on the ball (but offered nothing in terms of creativity themselves). It didn't help that he was sometimes sold short passes and often didn't give him options when he did have the ball. In the second half he really grew as the game went-on and it made a real impact on the game. Most of the team played well today - but the stand-out player IMO was Stanley - a real nightmare for opposition when they have the ball and great vision and execution when he has the ball. I would be chuffed if he was here next season, he is a cracking League 2 midfielder. I think that the only thing that put a blemish was the bizarre incident after we won the penalty -Zebs never looked like he would score on the run-up. Hopefully this will be sorted by the manager and coaches and there will be no room for confusion next time. Absolutely how I saw it, whilst Robinson was given the MoM award and he did play exceptionally well, Stanley was outstanding. Another thing I would add to your excellent description of his game was that he was ALWAYS looking to get the ball. He never stood and admired his passes he just went and offered himself up for the next pass. Not only would it be good to have him here next season he is someone you could build your team around. Pringle showed us second half what a quality player he is. With a bit more time on the training ground and another game under his belt he will really start to shine. We will then have a really decent centre midfield pairing. Lets hope that his loan can be turned into a season long loan as well. Outstanding second half performance from us, if only we could maintain that level every week.
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Post by chelstongull on Mar 6, 2011 10:55:28 GMT
With regard to Penaltygate, perhaps Zebroski should have taken tips from the Shiphay Primary School girls. ;D
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Post by tufc01 on Mar 6, 2011 11:09:14 GMT
PB talked about the penalty calamity on radio devon,robinson was instructed to take penalties not zebroski,he made light of it,but i think he was quietly fuming At the time he was VERY outwardly fuming. We were watching him and he was going nuts. He was shouting to Zebs not to take it, Robinson to take it, shouted to Manse to get Zebs to give it to Robinson, gesticulating with everyone to try and get Robinson to take it. He then kicked over a water bottle when Zebs missed. To be honest Zebs was out of order by taking it, not only that if Stevenage had somehow equalised and we went on to draw the game, the 'sort it out Buckle' crowd would have had a field day. Well he was trying to sorting it out, but Zebs disobeyed him. Short of going on the pitch to sort it out, as he himself suggested, there wasn't anymore he could do about it, unless he punishes Zebs later??
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Post by chelstongull on Mar 6, 2011 11:13:53 GMT
Down to the Captain on the pitch to sort these troubles out. Manse should have given the ball to Robinson as these would have been the prematch orders from Bucks.
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Post by tufc01 on Mar 6, 2011 11:18:26 GMT
Down to the Captain on the pitch to sort these troubles out. Manse should have given the ball to Robinson as these would have been the prematch orders from Bucks. He did try, obviously not strongly enough, but Zebs was having none of it. If only Zebs had put it away, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
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Post by Dave on Mar 6, 2011 11:20:44 GMT
With regard to Penaltygate, perhaps Zebroski should have taken tips from the Shiphay Primary School girls. ;D Lets be honest Zebs had the opportunity to put the ball in the net before he was brought down in the box. Maybe he just ended up rather frustrated he did not do that and that is the main reason he wanted to take the spot kick. He did all the hard work and then it looked like he could not get his brain in gear to take the shot when it was on. Thankfully the miss did not cost us in the end and I don't think we need to be to hard on Zebs as he played his part in our victory over Stevenage. Even regular penalty takers miss them from time to time and there is nothing to say Robinson would have scored from the spot. I'm sure Bucks has already had a word with Zebs as one would expect the manager makes it clear before the game who he wants to take any spot kicks we might win. PS the young lad in goal for the Shiphay Primary School girls penalty shoot out, pulled off some very good saves, I hope someone at the club has signed him up as one for the future.
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Post by alunmeerkat on Mar 6, 2011 11:21:46 GMT
Zebroski wanted to take the penalty - so what? do we really need the bench directing who should take the penalty. I wasn't confident that he would score it mind you but you need a player who feels confident at the very least so I cannot really see a problem. Saying that Zebroski was out of order is absurd. I am not sure what Zebroski was doing as he had rounded the keeper and seemed to take an age to press the trigger when all he had to do was put it either side of the keeper. As for punishing him? - do me a favour. He got their player sent off which did us no harm at all - Buckle is no fool and recognises in Zebroski he is light years ahead of any other forward we have got. Buckle should be giving Zebroski a medal - another unstinting 90 minutes of solid work rate yesterday. Bloody hell that boy can work. Stop nit picking and talk some sense.
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Post by aussie on Mar 6, 2011 11:37:45 GMT
PS the young lad in goal for the Shiphay Primary School girls penalty shoot out, pulled off some very good saves, I hope someone at the club has signed him up as one for the future. That young lad is the son of one of the groundsmen so don`t worry Dave it`s already taken care of!
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Post by ohtobeatplainmoor on Mar 6, 2011 12:04:36 GMT
I don't think so. Buckle calls the shots (whether anyone agrees with it or not) - he clearly wanted Robinson to take the penalty and Zebs went renegade and did his own thing. Robinson did the right thing and didn't make too much out of it - things could have got more heated and that was the last thing that was needed.
The win yesterday was built on discipline - the team stuck to the game plan and didn't just launch long balls out at their defenders - but everyone has to to be part of that team approach.
Zebs was otherwise excellent yesterday (as he usually is)- he has an unmatched engine and even when he is low on confidence he will cover the whole pitch. I cannot recall a player with a higher work-rate that is matched by such a level of athleticism. His booking was an absolute joke - he gets no protection from the officials at all week after week and for the most part just gets on with it to his immense credit.
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Post by Dave on Mar 6, 2011 12:38:48 GMT
Spot on otobe and one thing that is important in any football side, is the players carry out their managers instructions. There will be occasions in any game mind you that will not always be possible.
One example of this happened late in the game when Stevenage had won a corner. It was clear Bucks had told Stevens, Robinson and O'Kane to stay on the halfway line for the corner and not to be in or around our penalty box.
Stevenage had not long since had a corner and by having three of our players on the halfway line, it did stop their fullbacks wondering forward for the corner.
But for their last one just before it was taken, one defender on the left hand side and closest to O'Kane, decided at the last minute to venture into our half and move toward our box.
O'Kane was unsure what to do, stay where he was or follow the player into mark him. By the time he made up his mind to follow the player and go and mark him, that player had already received the ball from a short corner and had delivered the ball into our box.
As I said O'Kane was clearly following his managers instructions but maybe knew on this occasion, he had to do what needed to be done as a result of the Stevenage players actions. Had he not been on two minds, he may well have prevented the short corner being taken.
I'm sure if the score had been one each when Zebs missed the penalty, our alunmeerkat would have been on here moaning that Zebs should not have taken it and carried out the managers instructions.
As it all turned out the miss did not matter in the end, but I'm sure and rightly so, Bucks would have had words with Zebs about the need to carry out the instructions he puts in place where such things a s free kicks and penalty's are concerned.
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Post by alunmeerkat on Mar 6, 2011 12:39:16 GMT
If Robinson was so confident then why didn't he just go and pick the ball up and take it then? - perhaps he wasn't confident, you don't actually know. Its the same supposition that Zebroski was annoyed because he had missed the chance - again that might not even be the case. It could just as easily have been that Zenbroski was confident of scoring. If Zebs had scored you would not have heard a thing about it. As has been said there is no guarantee that Robinson would have scored. In fact before his goal Robinson missed a sitter with his first effort when their keeper saved it. Perhaps Buckle ought to fine him as well. Do you actually know that Robinson was the nominated penalty taker before the match - as a loan player I very much doubt that this was the case.
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