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Post by aussie on Sept 27, 2010 16:53:43 GMT
It was still 1 - 1 when the, in my opinion, somewhat strange substitutions of Carlisle for Senda [/i][/b] [/quote] I think the question of a balanced look to a team pays more attention to left or right "comfort" rather than "footedness".Unfortunately, a significant number of players feel out of their comfort zone playing on either the left or the right ; and that is the manager's primary concern. Would you not think that Carlisle for Senda was an attempt to "push on" from the right back position given the need to take the game to Macclesfield? I don't know, I wasn't there; but it sure sounds like it to me...................and Gritton for O'Kane ~ an attempt to go two up front and one less in midfield, but c ompensated for by Carlisle's inclusion ~ again I was not there so you tell me if you feel that was the case. That it "didn't work" is irrelevent really...............managers and coaches engage in all sorts of "positional chess" in some games in an attempt to gain the upper hand. Sometimes it works, others it doesn't; that's football and always will be. [/quote] It was definately an attempt to attack down the flanks and have a hold up man in the middle, up top, to keep it and feed the attempts on goal! Yes it failed and like you say Merse it is better to be pro-active than sit on your arse doing sod all, Bucks would have got more grief if we did nothing and drew, they (meerkat) would have come out with something like "this bloke is inept because he didn`t even try to change it"! Damned if he does and damned if he doesn`t, the wonderful world of a football manager! I think it`s beyond time we paid no notice to the negative factor and just let them spew forth all their dribble (punn intented) and just ignore it! Never know they might just change or even better go away!
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Post by merse on Sept 27, 2010 17:43:40 GMT
Bucks would have got more grief if we did nothing and drew, they (meerkat) would have come out with something like this bloke is inept because he didn`t even try to change it! Damned if he does and damned if he doesn't Look, characters like Larcombe lose all credibility because they only comment through hindsight....................did we hear him saying "don't pick Senda" before the game; did we feck! Is he in a position to judge the player's fitness? Is he buggery! ~ and did he even see the player's performance for himself? No he bloody didn't! " Meerkat" is a manifestation of Terry Larcombe's inborn pessimism; and abusive, negative nature; any fool can see that. Treat him with the contempt he deserves!
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Post by merseygull on Sept 27, 2010 18:05:39 GMT
With respect, Merse, it was only last tuesday or so that PB, when interviewed for the HE stated that Senda was "a couple of reserve games" off match fitness... to all intents no-one would have considered him as being in contention for saturday...as for Terry's inherant pessimism, well haven't we come to just love that over the years?? - it's part of what makes this community so colourful
ATB,J.
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Post by merse on Sept 27, 2010 18:20:05 GMT
With respect, Merse, it was only last tuesday or so that PB, when interviewed for the HE stated that Senda was "a couple of reserve games" off match fitness... What was your assessment of his fitness John?
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Post by merseygull on Sept 27, 2010 18:22:20 GMT
Sorry Alan, can't comment as I wasn't there...
BUT I ask, how can the MANAGER's assessment go from 0-10 in four days?
ATB,J.
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Post by chelstongull on Sept 27, 2010 18:39:49 GMT
Sorry to be a bit thick coming from south of Kerswell Arch, are we now saying that we can't comment on the Manager's line up and formations unless we have the relevant FIFA Coaching badges and have an insite into the various players fitness? Apologies once again but I'm off to North Huish (we can trace my Mothers mother back to this village) tomorrow to apply for the vacant position of Village Idiot. Me, I would like to see Macklin start as he gives a bit of pace down the wing and gives that little extra protection in defence. What ever players he picks, what ever formation he picks and in whatever league we ply our trade in the words of the great Prog Rock giants Emerson, Lake and Palmer "I'll be there" for as many games as God see's fit.
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Post by merse on Sept 27, 2010 20:01:44 GMT
Sorry to be a bit thick coming from south of Kerswell Arch, are we now saying that we can't comment on the Manager's line up and formations unless we have the relevant FIFA Coaching badges and have an insite into the various players fitness? Well you can't comment with any authority on a "player's fitness" if you don't know what it is can you! ...............and who's said you need coaching badges to comment on formations? Care to expand Phil?
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Post by chelstongull on Sept 27, 2010 20:11:20 GMT
Watching Spooks at the moment, will try and expand tomorrow with a bit of luck.
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Post by stuartB on Sept 27, 2010 20:17:08 GMT
Watching Spooks at the moment, will try and expand tomorrow with a bit of luck. Spooks is not as good as Silent witness distinct lack of bush ;D
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Post by chrish on Sept 27, 2010 21:00:57 GMT
Watching Spooks at the moment, will try and expand tomorrow with a bit of luck. Spooks is not as good as Silent witness distinct lack of bush ;D Joint post of the week so far.
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Post by stuartB on Sept 27, 2010 21:04:07 GMT
Spooks is not as good as Silent witness distinct lack of bush ;D Joint post of the week so far. we aim to please
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Post by Jon on Sept 27, 2010 23:12:53 GMT
However, there were a lot of us in the Gulls Nest after the game "puzzled" by the non-appearance of Charnock - either in the starting line up or as the obvious substitute for Senda (with Robertson moving to right back). I am not convinced that Senda instead of Charnock was totally because of the "two left footers" issue. I reckon that if we had been away to a top team, we would have gone with the more solid option of Robbo right back and Charnock in for Ellis. It was obvious that Macclesfield would be there to be broken down, so it made sense to go for an attacking right back. I don't think that Robbo would have been dropped if Ellis had been fit, but Ellis being out gave the option to move Robbo to the centre and bring in someone who offers more going forward. The issue of how to compete against a five man midfield is a problem. In a game against a weaker side, I would have liked to see Senda push up to give the fifth midfielder and Zebs staying right up front (giving a sort of 3-5-2 shape) rather than Zebs pulling wide to give a sort of 4-5-1 shape. O'Kane showed loads of quality again, but where to play him at home is an issue. Away from home, I think he sits very comfortably in a 4-2-3-1 formation - but that isn't best suited to a game at home to Macclesfield. Pushing one full back up to give a 3-5-2 (if Robbo is at right back, you could push up Nicho on the left) would allow Eunan the free role he revels in without leaving us too thin up front. It was to be expected that Senda would not last 90 minutes and replacing his overlapping brief with a pure defender in Charnock would have smacked of shutting up shop and settling for a point. Carlisle was a more obvious straight replacement - given that the brief was to push on and get forward. The one change I would not have made was Gritts for O'Kane. On the face of it, bringing on a second striker for a midfielder looked sensible to force the game, but Eunan was the player most likely to unpick a stubborn defence and his removal really reduced the subtlety and flexibility of our attacking options. Carlisle should have pushed on from right back to liberate Zebs to play centrally, with O'Kane free to feed Carlisle and Macklin wide and Benyon and Zebs through the middle. As it was, Zebs wasn't needed inside as Gritts and Benyon were there, so he was in the area Carlisle should have been pushing into and we lacked creativity in the centre. That is all just my opinion though - and it is worth b***ar all. I couldn't trap a bag of cement.
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Post by alunmeerkat on Sept 28, 2010 11:44:18 GMT
I havn't posted that much because I have only seen the team once this seasons cannot really comment how well they have been playing. I cannot really answer the Senda question - I mean I am not saying he shouldn't be given a chance but as has already been said elsewhere Buckle did state earlier in the week that he wasn't ready for the first team, and the player himself was quoted yesterday as saying he was suprised to be selected. I guess that the managers quote that Senda now has a "slight strain" means that we won't be seeing him tonight. It surely is the same situation as Camara isn't it - obviously the bloke could play football but clearly wasn't fit enough to do himself justice. Probably the same with Senda really. Buckle in any case needs to be concentarting on getting a centre forward in from somewhere -it is blindingly obvious that this is where we are deficient at the moment. Anyway I am going tonight - the Bradford match was excellent and it will be great to be back. I reckon Ellis will be back tonight with Robbo returning to right back. Personally I would play Zebroski and Carlisle wide with Gritton and Benyon up front. That seems more or less our best and strongest team and also looks a winning one for tonights game. 4-4-2 with the key being not to give anything away.
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Post by Budleigh on Sept 28, 2010 11:52:12 GMT
Not sure about Ellis for tonight... I gather it's touch and go and he may not be ready until Saturday.
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Post by merse on Sept 28, 2010 12:05:52 GMT
I cannot really answer the Senda question - I mean I am not saying he shouldn't be given a chance but as has already been said elsewhere Buckle did state earlier in the week that he wasn't ready for the first team, and the player himself was quoted yesterday as saying he was suprised to be selected. I don't think anyone can be too critical of any manager of a club of limited resources for taking a "punt" on a player who might be seeking to resurrect his career, and we certainly cannot blame the player for trying. Terry, you operate in the betting game yourself; and you must appreciate that not all gambles come off ~ it just doesn't happen. Haven't we taken a similar (and successfull) punt on Scott Bevan who's kidney removal and then knee and ankle injuries all but finished his career? What about Lloyd Macklin then? Sometimes these gambles pay off and sometimes they don't, and there may have been other unshared factors which affected the mindset of the players and their mental approach to Saturday's game; who knows? But as Budleigh alluded to, ALL the infromation and reflection from Saturday's game will be disseminated and acted on before tonight ~ enjoy the game, I wish I could be there myself; but it looks as if I will have to wait until the match at Gilingham before I can see for myself once again.
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