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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2010 20:39:30 GMT
Once upon a time I had a football map of England and Wales produced by Bartholomew. I vaguely remembered how it depicted the strips of the Football League clubs as well as their badges and those of many non-league clubs, some rather more obscure than others. More recently, in a fit of nostalgia, I’ve found myself searching for this now forty-year old map in second hand bookshops. Then last week, seeking something else, I found a copy on ebay. It was mine for just 50p. Everything about the map – strips, cover price and narrative history - points to 1971. To call it a football history map is something of a misnomer because, apart from an outline chart of key dates (a pretty unremarkable feature), it’s really a portrait of how the Football League stood at the time. In this sense it’s interesting how Football League representation in some parts of the country appears remarkably unchanged. Look at the south west corner for instance. Yes, Exeter and Torquay have left and re-entered the league in those forty years, but the sole long-term change is the replacement of Newport County by Yeovil Town (not forgetting the arrival of Hereford if you extend the zone northwards). By contrast look at the north of the country and, in particular, the north west coastline with the inclusion of Barrow, Workington and Southport. I’ve only included a few chunks of the map just as I’ve only included a selection of the 159 depicted club badges ranging from Aldershot to Yorkshire Amateur (many of which appear to have been chosen in a rather arbitrary fashion). A feature of many of the badges is their “traditional” nature and how they often relate to the host town’s coat of arms:
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Post by Rags on Oct 16, 2010 7:49:33 GMT
Once upon a time I had a football map of England and Wales produced by Bartholomew. I vaguely remembered how it depicted the strips of the Football League clubs as well as their badges and those of many non-league clubs, some rather more obscure than others. More recently, in a fit of nostalgia, I’ve found myself searching for this now forty-year old map in second hand bookshops. Then last week, seeking something else, I found a copy on ebay. It was mine for just 50p. I had the exact same map on my bedroom wall in Frobisher Green during the 70's. It taught me a lot about the geography of England, something sadly lacking these days when an Economics graduate of our acquaintance, in his early 20's, asked if Aldershot was near Manchester. There are some classic old names there, like Northern Nomads. I've wanted an up to date version of this for some years and while www.footiemap.com/ does an admirable job online, its just not the same as a large wallchart. Fantastic stuff and I want one!
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Post by merse on Oct 16, 2010 8:08:23 GMT
There are some classic old names there, like Northern Nomads. Jeez.................there's a name from the past and I think they've been gone for over a quarter of a century now. They never had a ground of their own, as their name implies; but in the later days of their existence used Glossop or Stalybridge Celtic to stage their "home" matches in The Manchester League (which is where I recall them) ~ two historic towns that had staged Football League stuff at one time in the dark and distant past. Nomads even managed to reach the First round of the FA cup in in1908 and won the FA Amateur Cup in 1926, having been formed in 1862. I shall be very disappointed if Barty doesn't enthrall us all with some pictorial evidence of their history!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2010 8:27:53 GMT
I shall be very disappointed if Barty doesn't enthrall us all with some pictorial evidence of their history! I'll see what I can do but, in the meantime, I'm reminded of a lad I knew at university who had a mate who played for Northern Nomads. One Sunday evening he returned home from Stockport with the news that his mate Craig so-and-so had been offered a trial by Bury. And, in time, Craig Madden turned out to be rather successful at Gigg Lane.
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Post by aussie on Oct 16, 2010 10:28:56 GMT
I notice that our ship is far superiour than Plymouths little boat, anyone know it`s name?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2010 8:20:52 GMT
Northern Nomads from a 1980s book about the history of the FA Amateur Cup:
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Post by merse on Oct 18, 2010 9:08:00 GMT
That's my boy, Barty! I knew we could trust you to come up with something, I take it The Nomads are in a red & white hooped kit there. I know Brantingham Road in Manchester well from my time working in the city. To the best of my knowledge there are still playing fields there and an athletics venue. It runs east to west in the hinterland between Man City's old Maine Road ground and Old Trafford. City run their youth development at their academy set up nearby on the Platt Lane site and just south of there is the location of the old Fallowfield Ground ~ one of the ancient FA Cup Final venues ~ that is now part of the campus where the famous "Toast Rack" building is.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2010 9:35:35 GMT
I know Brantingham Road in Manchester well from my time working in the city. To the best of my knowledge there are still playing fields there and an athletics venue. Maine Road FC of the NW Counties League play at Brantingham Road. It's also been the home of Manchester FA - and venue for county cup finals - although I see they now have offices at Salford Sports Village.
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Post by merse on Oct 18, 2010 9:49:23 GMT
Maine Road FC.................a football club of substance that began as a Sunday morning side based at the Man City Social Club and now playing at the same level as FC United and AFC Liverpool ~ two "Johnny Come Latelys" who embraced the concept of supporters getting so pissed off with the remoteness of their former heroes, they formed their own clubs! Chris Fleet beware, you don't know what you're letting yourself in for! ;D
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Post by merse on Oct 18, 2010 15:11:53 GMT
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Post by ospelgull on Oct 18, 2010 17:54:59 GMT
Barton, what a fantastic map! Would love to have one of those! Have to keep an eye on Ebay then.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2010 19:01:35 GMT
I notice that our ship is far superiour than Plymouths little boat, anyone know it`s name? I think we better hand it to Argyle on this occasion as I suspect their ship is the Mayflower whereas ours is probably a figment of Victorian imagination. Here's what Percy Russell has to say in his History of Torquay and the Famous Anchorage of Torbay. He's talking about the arms of the old Borough of Torquay upon which the club badge was based:
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2010 19:49:07 GMT
Also tucked away on the Bartholomew's football map is the badge of Middlesex Wanderers: Middlesex Wanderers - founded in 1905 according to www.middlesexwanderersafc.co.uk - are a touring club who have played football all over the world, especially in Asia. I always associate them with tiny articles in the old Soccer Star magazine which reported Wanderers playing in front of crowds of 50,000 or more in various parts of the Far East. In those days I believe their teams were often made up of England amateur internationals but, more latterly, they've drawn upon senior non-league players from all over the country. Indeed, Brian Healy's Wiki article suggests he played for Middlesex Wanderers. The website hasn't had a recent update so I'm not sure if they club has undertaken any tours in the last year or two.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2010 21:35:50 GMT
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Post by ospelgull on Nov 6, 2010 0:07:09 GMT
Thanks for the link Barton. But I recently bought one and it's now waiting for me in Kingsteignton.
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