tufc01
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Post by tufc01 on Sept 24, 2010 19:39:24 GMT
[glow=red,2,300] Another Church that seems to be inactive is [glow=red,2,300]Prospect Chapel [/glow]. I don't think I have ever seen its doors open, let alone understood its purpose?[/glow] Wasn't it somewhere for us to take our CSE's, or GCE's if you were really clever, back in the day??
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Post by merseygull on Sept 25, 2010 12:56:19 GMT
Brilliant thread this one, great memories of Newton over the years... my first "ex" bought a house in gladstone place a few months after the flood of '79 - it was still damp!!
Newton was a great place to be on a wednesday... due to the "special licensing laws" afforded to a market town, the pubs used to open at 11 and stay open all day (with just a half hour non-serving between 4:30 and 5 to clear the ashtrays and floor)..
My best memory involves my cousin, who was a year older than me and a policeman serving with the lancashire constabulary... he came down to visit in 1975 and one evening we went into Torquay for a few beers... at the time I was working at the Pickwick on pimlico so we popped in to say hello to Dave the landlord... I had a pint of Harp and Rob ordered a pint of cider... I had never known that he was partial to the old apple juice so I promptly ordered him to drink up and announced that we were leaving...
Next stop, the Cider Bar at newton... what an eye-opener for him, especially as I asked him how he wanted his cider (sweet, medium or dry)... he requested Dry so I got him a pint which was, of course almost undrinkable for him... cue order a pint of sweet= 2 pints of medium!! Followed by a word in landlord's ear... enter a pint of Harvest - much more cider-looking for my northern friend, all clear and fizzy...2 pints of that on top of everything and his legs had gone and he was a gibbering wreck..
I had no choice but to drive us home and face the wrath of my old dear 1) for getting rob into "that state" and 2) driving without a licence with a pi$$ed up copper in the back seat!!
Happy daze!!
ATB,J.
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Post by Dave on Oct 19, 2010 16:58:52 GMT
Two very interesting pictures appeared in this weeks Bygones in the Herald Express that will interested many old Newton boys on here. The first is an aerial view of Penn Inn taken in 1985 four years before in October 1989 Plymco opened its doors for the very fist time on the site of Penn Inn Park. You can clearly see the swimming pool and also the paddling pool where we not only played when we were very young, but later sailed our model boats on. Between the swimming pool and the paddling pool can be seen the old shelter we would hang out in sometimes and the large open area behind the swimming pool was a very large park that I remember you had to go up a slope to get onto it. The Penn Inn roundabout is in this picture and the only thing that looks different from when I was a boy is the car park near the paddling pool as there was never one there and I expect it was made there as spaces in the swimming pool car park would have been lost when the roundabout was built. The second picture is a great shot of Penn Inn swimming pool with the wonderful cottage in the corner that sold sweets ice creams etc from a window and there was also a window on the other side out in the car park where you could get served as well. The building that can be seen was the girls outside changing room and there was one up the other end for the boys. You could pay a bit more to change inside the main building changing rooms where your belongings etc would have been safe, but most could only afford to pay to change in the outsides ones that had no door and just a bench around the room and nowhere to keep your clothes safe. You just got changed in there and left your clothes on the bench.
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Post by keyberrygull on Oct 19, 2010 20:46:28 GMT
Between the swimming pool and the paddling pool can be seen the old shelter the old den of iniquity, but what happened to the steam model railway track that can be seen in the distance?
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Post by tonyvee on Apr 1, 2011 7:00:19 GMT
Hi, I've only lived in Newton Abbot for some 12 years, so it is lovely to see your old photos of it. Especially as I am the Editor of The Stover Bargee, the quarterly magazine of the Stover Canal Society (www.stovercanal.co.uk). 2 requests. 1: If you (or anyone else) has old photos of any part of the canal can we have copies of them. It would greatly help in the restoration. 2: If anyone has memories of the canal they would make a wonderful article for a future issue of our magazine. Obviously you'd get full credit for photos and/or text as well as a free copy of the issue they appear in. Best wishes Tony Volante tonyvee@hotmail.co.uk
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Post by Dave on Aug 25, 2012 8:37:07 GMT
One building I’m sure every Newton Abbot boy on here will have lasting long childhood memories of, is the old Newton Abbot hospital. I do not know what your lasting memories might be, but mine was the smell of disinfectant and just feeling the place was so clean and sterile. Mind you back then it was the good old days of matrons who made sure the place was always spotlessly clean. That old hospital served the town well but like so many old buildings it had seen its day and it was time for the town to have a brand new hospital build. That happened a good few years ago now and since then the old hospital has been left empty to simply rot away. For a number of months now work has been going on to demolish all the old buildings to make way for a new housing development. It will provide some much needed housing in the town and remove what has become a major eyesore. One building on the site has always held a big interest to me and that building is the old workhouse. It’s hard to think it’s not much more than a hundred years ago such buildings were in use such things went on as they did in such places. In the nineteenth century, those unable to provide for themselves through extreme poverty, disability, or physical and mental illness, often ended up in the Newton Abbot Workhouse, which included the Borough of Torquay in its remit. The Newton Abbot Poor Law Union had been formed in 1836 and their Workhouse - which could accommodate 350 inmates - was built in 1837 in East Street. In 1894, the workhouse officers became involved in a scandal which was the subject of an inquiry by the Local Government Board. Witnesses claimed that the "jumper," a sort of sack used as a strait-jacket, was constant use in the workhouse, and that aged inmates had been placed in it naked, and then tied to their bedsteads. A Mrs. Bovey died five days after being confined in the "jumper," and she was said to have been tied down within a few hours of her death. Other witnesses alleged that the wards of the workhouse were in a filthy condition, and many of the inmates infested with vermin. One witness, a nurse named Alice Hinton, testified that she had found inmate named Mrs. Nicholls apparently dying. The woman was very dirty and covered with vermin. Her hair had been cut off, and her toe-nails were like claws, being 2½in. long. Another woman who was paralyzed had her finger-nails so long that they made wounds in her flesh. In the workhouse yard, Hinton had seen an idiot woman crouched in a corner with her face bruised. The Guardians had built a shed for her in the yard, and witness had noticed that the boys threw stones and snowballs at her. When the master's son was at home he was the ringleader. The boys said that they pelted the old woman to make her swear. It was also alleged that Miss Ann Mance, workhouse matron for almost thirty years, neglected her duties, and had only been seen to visit the sick ward five times over a three month period. to her knowledge. It was further alleged that the fighting among the idiots was especially dreadful on Sunday morning, when the matron was in bed, and Nurse Hinton added that she had also complained to the matron of immorality that was going on amongst the inmates. Miss Mance gave an emphatic denial to the charges, swearing that she had never bullied an inmate in. her life, and declared that she had exercised proper authority over the establishment. The idiots said to have been cruelly treated had not a single bruise upon their bodies. She had allowed inmates to sing Sankey's hymns on Sunday mornings, but it was utterly untrue to state that the place had been turned into a Bedlam. She never ordered any inmate to be put into the "jumper." "Jumpers" hade been introduced by a former nurse, named m'Connell, and they were supposed to be under the control of the nurse. She had never received a complaint respecting their use. In regard to the charges of misconduct among the inmates, the matron declared that it was absolutely impossible that men and women could have been in the laundry together. Another workhouse nurse, Miss Pike, said she had been given sole charge of about 150 sick paupers in the nursery. The beds were unfit for pigs, and the children were under the care of two partially blind women. One day a child was tied up to the bed with a piece of string to prevent it from running about, as it had no shoes and stockings. Eleven children had only four nightgowns between them. Neither brushes nor combs were provided for the inmates, and their food was kept in the lavatories. A temporary nurse named Elizabeth Wills said she one night found two men tied down in the bed. One was au imbecile and the other was so ill that he died the same day. Mr. John Alsop, union clerk, said the Guardians never ordered the use of jumpers. Following the inquiry, Miss Mance was dismissed. She died from a heart condition a few weeks later. What memories do you have of the old Newton Abbot hospital?
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Post by Dave on Oct 7, 2012 17:44:17 GMT
The town’s villages and cities we live in are constantly changing as old buildings get pulled down and more often than not, new ones take their place. When I look back to my childhood growing up in Newton Abbot, I can remember so many buildings etc that are no longer in existence. Today’s children in Newton Abbot will see such buildings as the job centre and as far as they would be concerned, it’s always been there. But we older Newton boys and girls remember when that was the site of the old bus station complete with a café and was the place the old Torquay United football special busses would pick you up and take you to the ground. We have talked on this thread before about the old fire station and the building in the market that was named the new market hall, both long since knocked down when the new market was built. I could write a book about all the changes I have seen in Newton since I was a kid and soon we shall see one more big change to the landscape when the flyover is built over the Penn Inn Roundabout. With the last sentence in mind and remembering some of the excellent contributions made on this very thread by an exile of the town that I’m sure still reads the TFF, today I headed for Newton Abbot to get some updated photos of the old hospital site. Newton Abbot needed a more modern and up to date hospital and one was built at Jetty March and the old one was left empty to rot away. It was only ever going to be a matter of time before it was knocked down and new housing built on the site. St Fagan’s Welsh Folk Museum was mentioned on here a few weeks ago. It is still going but now has a new name that I can’t remember but will check out when I’m in Wales in a few weeks time. Each old building there was taken down brick by brick and rebuilt in the grounds to preserve the history of Wales. I went there once on a primary school trip, so that was so many years ago and I think going there was what started my interest in old buildings. Old buildings have real history and so many have stories to tell, I have enjoyed over the years visiting National Trust properties and when in them, having the feeling of being taken back in time. But when they are knocked down they are gone for ever and some of their history lost. Future generations may never even learn of their existence and one such building on the old hospital site springs to mind. The old Newton Abbot Workhouse, what a place and what history that building had. Many horror stories came out of that place about how so many of those unfortunate enough to end up there were treated. It closed down long before I was born but I always knew what the building was used for and it was a building that always gave me an eerie feeling when I looked at it. It has gone now forever and all that is left of it for future generations is a number of pictures of what it looked like and many articles of what went on inside of it. The workhouse and many others of the hospital buildings were on a separate but adjoining site to the main hospital. Today when I stood at the bottom of the driveway to the old hospital (now fenced off and the building itself completely gone) so many memories came flooding back. I wonder how many times I had walked up that steep winding driveway to go and visit a sick relative, or to go to the A & E department for some treatment. I think there is one thing most old Newton boys on the TFF will remember most about that old hospital and that was the smell when you first walked in. It was a real strong smell of disinfectant and the whole place just smelled and felt so very clean and sterile. The main corridor was so clean and shinny you did not want to even walk on it in fear of making it dirty. Back then it was the days of the old hospital matrons and hospitals were far cleaner and safer places than they seem to be today. On the site where the workhouse once was there is still a large looking building deeper into the site that is still standing along with the buildings that are beside the main road just up a bit further from the Cider Bar. They have their windows boarded up and I’m sure they will also be coming down very soon. Talking of the Cider Bar I did take a photo of it, I have to say its looking rather dirty and scruffy now and could do with a clean lick of paint. I also took a picture of the four Alms Houses that are next to the Cider Bar. I once had an auntie that lived in one and spent many happy childhood days staying there when I visited her. It’s hard to believe that it is four separate homes as the whole building is not that large, but from memory I can tell you they are so very small inside. The buildings on the main road waiting to come downThe East Street Alms HousesThe Cider Bar Where the workhouse once stoodtwo other shots from the same part of the site the workhouse was onThe building still standing at the bottom of the drive to the main hospitalLooking through the fence up the driveway, you can see the main hospital building has gone forever.
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