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Post by merse on Jul 18, 2009 19:36:59 GMT
Did anyone else notice that we appear to have swapped dugouts? We were in the one towards the away end today. Seems it will be a permanent thing as it had "HOME" painted on it. Perhaps it was a farewell prank from the departing Mark Burd?
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Post by jamie on Jul 18, 2009 19:45:02 GMT
my thoughts for what it is worth.............
Pitch : shocking, looked really poor. I have heard a rumor about why the groundsman has gone but it would be unfair to post when it is a rumor. we really need someone in to sort it though otherwise when the weather comes we will suffer big time.
Stevens : Why play him in this position? surely he was never going to set the world alight playing there!
Saul Halpin - we will certainly hear more about him, looked very bizarre on the ball but very effective.
Our Goal : great build up play, I counted 17 passes leading up to it (how autistic am I?) seriously it was a pleasure to see us play like that for periods of the game.
mustapha : Looking like a class player this season. I have heard good things from other games and I was impressed today. Final ball needs a bit of work though.
Benches : why have we swapped them around? Is it to avoid home fans giving the manger stick? seems strange to me.
overall - not a bad afternoon out, the result flattered them and I would imagine the training this week will concentrate on addressing the defensive errors we made today.
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Post by andygulls on Jul 18, 2009 21:01:20 GMT
The good news is that, in League 2, we will probably not come across a team possessing such abundance of pace as Bristol Rovers did today. Pace was our undoing, not a surprise to most of us but the resulting chaos in our defence may well cause PB to think long and hard about how he progresses with team strengthening. Both Nicholson and Mansell were left chasing voids left by opposition wingers who blew by untouched and untroubled. This in turn created issues for the centre backs pulled out of position and struggling with the same adversary of pace. We in turn also caused some issues with pace from Carayol but much of our attractive play ended with wasted opportunities. For me Rovers were good value for this pre season victory.
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+ Wroe looked much better today than on Wednesday some excellent passing + Carayol sharp and pacy – just need to pick shooting opportunities a touch earlier +Halpin promising little cameo +Adams looks in good touch
- Full backs cruelly exposed - Central defence pulled out of position far too easily - Hodges, anonymous today -Stevens, Why is he starting in central midfield in this formation? – If I’m Thompson I’m looking for a way out if this carries on. - Joyce failed to impress in two Plainmoor run outs but probably needs time to play alongside Sills or another central partner - Benyon / Joyce Combo…………great for the Southern League Premier ……but for League 2? - 7 goals conceded in 2 games - The pitch - Cedric Munslow is back again - The dugout – It’ll take time to get used to this but perhaps PB is just fed up of listening to the “expert” advice from the crowd
Still it’s only for practice and fitness
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Post by stewart on Jul 18, 2009 22:12:55 GMT
Shaun North apparently believes that "we didn't quite have the cutting edge that we would have wanted".
Hardly surprising, that, as we now seem to have adopted the ridiculous strategy of playing with only one forward.
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Post by merse on Jul 19, 2009 7:02:52 GMT
- The dugout – It’ll take time to get used to this but perhaps PB is just fed up of listening to the “expert” advice from the crowd Technical areas should be adjacent to the halfway line, it should be mandatory. If they're going to stand halfway down one half because of "abuse" we might as well appoint John Bartlett as Chairman and Terry Larcombe as manager! At Cambridge United they even consign the visitors to some ludicrous lop sided location to accomodate "Touchline Sponsors" in their old dugout!
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Post by chelstongull on Jul 19, 2009 8:24:34 GMT
Whilst only being a PSF it does worry me about the style of play that Bucks is starting with; 4 - 1 - 4 - 1 which surely he's not going to persist with at home? IMO whilst it brings the wingers forwards, it does leave us light at the back for the counter break. Akin to having Buster Phillips protecting your full back. We huffed and puffed but couldn't blow the little piggys house down. One assumes that Bucks is targeting another 'big' forward as a strike force of Sills - Benyon - Joyce ain't gonna cut the mustard in League 2. Thought the skinny lanky dude did well in his 15 minutes or so. Thought today was made for a Branston type fugue to lead the back four certainly to counteract their big forward - Lambert? He would have cut out some of the crosses which peppered the box. Not convinced with Ricey in goal - he doesn't imo inspire confidence in his back four or some of the Popside for that matter. One assumes that Bucks would get a loan 'keeper in Bevs is not fit for the Chesterfield or Derby PSF game(s). If anyone is in the know with any folk at the Club, can they get the annoying and extremely irritating humming noise on the speakers fixed please
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Post by ohtobeatplainmoor on Jul 19, 2009 9:02:46 GMT
I think it is understandable that Bucks has requested to swap dugouts. There are so many cretinous, know-all supporters that give him "advice" (bleddy sord it out Buckle) that given we are in for a tough season and potentially "other non-football comments" that might be slung his way by these idiots it would be best to do it now.
Chelstongull - agree with the points you make, although I think in the first half with the 4-1-4-1 I thought we kept possession well and looked dangerous down the wings. We looked purposeful with it and although we were (as to be expected) toothless in attack at times, I would see this as a useful formation for the League 2 season ahead. To be fair, even with a 4-4-2 we would still have been shakey at the back with Rice in goal and the rather meek and mild (although perfectly able) centre-halves. I would expect the goalkeeper position to be resolved if Bevs isn't fit for the start of the season.
With regards to the humming noise, I'm not in the know (after all, I didn't come-out with the Fleetwood, Beavon and Branston to sign exclusives!!) but heard that the problem relates to a transformer under the Grandstand. It couldn't be shut-off as it would have removed the ability to give an emergency announcement over the tannoy. It will be fixed in the coming week, we probably lost our electrician along with our commercial manager, physio, groundsman, assistant groundsman, head of youth development and tea lady!!
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Post by chelstongull on Jul 19, 2009 9:08:49 GMT
With regards to the humming noise, I'm not in the know (after all, I didn't come-out with the Fleetwood, Beavon and Branston to sign exclusives!!) but heard that the problem relates to a transformer under the Grandstand. It couldn't be shut-off as it would have removed the ability to give an emergency announcement over the tannoy. It will be fixed in the coming week, we probably lost our electrician along with our commercial manager, physio, groundsman, assistant groundsman, head of youth development and tea lady!! Cheers!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2009 9:19:16 GMT
Whilst only being a PSF it does worry me about the style of play that Bucks is starting with; 4 - 1 - 4 - 1 which surely he's not going to persist with at home? That prompts the thought that - given the opposition in friendlies at home is usually stronger than it is away (at just about every club) - managers may sometimes wish to use home friendlies to try out away tactics? If anyone is in the know with any folk at the Club, can they get the annoying and extremely irritating humming noise on the speakers fixed please Generally the sound sysyem is much better at Plainmoor these days and, of course, there have been a few changes in announcers over the last season or two. Indeed, now the new lad has been there a while, I hope he gains the confidence to vary his script rather more. It often sounds like it's still the Gospel according to dear old Pete Wiley!
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Post by merse on Jul 19, 2009 9:33:57 GMT
Whilst only being a PSF it does worry me about the style of play that Bucks is starting with; 4 - 1 - 4 - 1 which surely he's not going to persist with at home? That prompts the thought that - given the opposition in friendlies at home is usually stronger than it is away (at just about every club) - managers may sometimes wish to use home friendlies to try out away tactics? A valid point Barty, PSFs are merely a part of pre-season preparation and often an extension of what has been worked on in the days prior to the match. I've known managers impose special restrictions for given periods in such games. Restrictions such as as "near post crosses only", "three touches of the ball maximum only" "take a man on then release the ball".....................all sorts of little things that really have no bearing on how we will start the season in three weeks time any more than head tennis on a Tuesday morning being replicated on the Saturday (unless we're playing Histon that is ) at least this manager can be relied upon to turn up at the training ground on time on a Tuesday morning, if at all; unlike one I could mention 4-1-4-1 is an excellent vehicle for maximising the passing game and that's probably what the players have been working on at this stage of pre - season, and even if it's to prepare for the way the manager wants to line up on some away trips; it's no bad thing to emphasize it seeing as the PSFs are so home biased in their location.
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Post by chiefscout on Jul 19, 2009 9:45:24 GMT
Hardly suprising is it that our players looked a bit jaded yesterday. Friday they were doing bleep tests again that do drain every bit of energy and takes a couple of days to fully recover. Once muscles reach the burn stage they need days to repair themselves. Thank god it was only a friendly. We were beaten for pace at times but in a normal league game those wingers would have been in the second row of the stands after the first run
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Post by Jon on Jul 19, 2009 10:42:53 GMT
sat on the other side of the fence, he had no stool to sit on and got a bit uncountable There's only one Romford Kev.
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Post by Jon on Jul 19, 2009 10:44:34 GMT
Thought today was made for a Branston type fugue I know that Branston is a Centre Bach, but didn't realise he was responsible for any fugues.
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Post by Jon on Jul 19, 2009 10:53:16 GMT
The game really reminded me of our season in the third division under Leroy when we often dominated games passing the ball around high up the pitch only to be hit by two or three pass breaks from fast strong direct forward play.
It was only a friendly so no panic.
Fourth division teams don't tend to have forwards as quick and technically adept as Argyle or Rovers, do they?
Even if they did, we would not open ourselves up to them like that, would we?
Interesting cameo from Halpin who I hadn't picked up on as being one of our more promising youngsters. His build and demeanour were similar to the lad who paid to play against Buckland, but he had an excellent touch and seemed to have a good football brain. I will watch his progress with interest. The seven sub rule should give us the option to put a lad like this on the bench now and again.
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Post by chelstongull on Jul 19, 2009 11:52:25 GMT
Thought today was made for a Branston type fugue I know that Branston is a Centre Bach, but didn't realise he was responsible for any fugues. Ah, God bless the Spolling Polise Nor did I realise he was Welsh and yes I know the link 'tween Bach and Fugue!!
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