P.S.F. Buckland v Torquay United 9th July 2009

Perhaps a good example there of Muzzy's lack of vision and end product. Nevertheless, seemed from reports to have had a good match (Thank you TUFC01 and maybe we will only start the season with three out and out wingers

At the end of the day, the wingers do alternate their positions and there is the additional option of either playing a striker there or more realistically extending a still overstaffed midfield. Personally would prefer this to compromising on a striker or having to sell a valuable player.

Does that sound pragmatic and reasonable?

Yes it does merse and is very much in keeping with the direction the TFF is now moving in, for those who may no know what this is you can read about it in this thread.

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Mickeyflash referred to you as a celebrity on here, well that’s not really true as we all know there is only one true celebrity on the forum

Joking aside Alan Merson at his very best must rank as one of the very best TUFC posters of all times, posts made that contain such facts ,he astounds so many with knowledge that he shows and the names from the past he recalls that most have forgotten. All this information has not been found by using google, no it’s in his head and I must confess I have been marvelled by the great knowledge this man has.

I may play the clown at times but I sure am no fool, I know many read the TFF to see what Merse has to say, for many it’s a must do daily event and for that reason alone I know that merse is such a valuable asset to the forum.

But there is another Merse I know and one that I feel for the good of the TFF needs to change, I do not need to put down in this post all the things that can get put into a post, we all know what they are and we all know what so often happens as a result of what gets put in.

What happens are remarks often hurt people get them angry and a thread that was going along nicely, suddenly breaks out into a forum war. The fact is so many do not like it, hate the fallouts and the bickering and it turns them off the forum.

I have been so guilty myself to allow myself to get dragged in, a hurtful comment, maybe one that was made to make me look something that I was not, has seen me go and attack back, but all that is about to change.

Yes I will put my hand up and say there were some nights on another forum where I enjoyed a big fight between two posters, maybe it just gave it a bit more interest from all the one line posts and posts that I felt were often just nonsense.

The thing is the TFF has really top posters, it has such great content and really has no need to generate posts by getting itself into scrapes with its members, most of the very worst and ill feeling posts elsewhere that ended up with people almost on the point of hating each other, were made by some who run the forum.

I have always been mindful not to allow that to happen on here to me, at the end of the day as I keep saying I’m only here as a friend and someone who will help anyone to get the best out of the forum.

I also do not believe we have to start threads on here that are rumours made up and ones that might harm the very thing we love, most are done to generate posts and so I suppose to that end they do work, NO, I would rather read just ONE top post made by merse, Barton and all our other great posters we have, than endless posts about something that was made up for the reasons I have given,. I firmly believe it’s the quality aspect of the forum we need to concentrate on, this is what has earned the forum the great name it has, I really don’t want it to get a label as a forum that has trouble on it and is the home of the bad boys another forum got rid off.

We can build on our good name and in time even more will want to be part of the TFF experience and making them welcome and letting them know they can post their views and not have to worry they will be subject to any personal attacks surly has to be the best way forward.

Back to the c word used at the Buckland game, tufc01 was talking to a lady when Benyon shouted it out so loudly, that may have been the reason tufc01 shouted out Benyons name, more in shock than utter disgust I would say, still players do need to be mindful of their language out on the pitch.

Richard I take the view that all players need to behave and conduct themselves out on the pitch in an appropriate manner. We all know their actions are important in many issues even crowd control to a degree, as if they carry out violent and thuggish acts on the pitch, it sends out the wrong message to the fans.

Players always need to show discipline when out on the pitch and swearing is something they really should not be doing. I think you could understand if they got badly fouled and it hurt like hell, I think most of us may just swear due to the pain.

That was not the case at the Buckland game so I can't see how I could find any defense for it.Yes it seems that somehow swearing is an acceptable part of going to a football match, we all know some swearing will come about due to the pure emotion generated at a game.

But there are times when the swearing is just for swearing sake and I only get annoyed about that if a young person is nearby or as often happens where I stand on the Popside a dear old lady and her husband get subject to it.

I really don't think swearing was a big thing when I was young, true some older boys may have done it because they believed it made them look grownup, but I'm shocked these days how children aged under five use really foul swear words.

I have a path that goes past my garden,(Phil will know the one) we get young children going past all day, many are just decent kids who always stop to say hello to me, but some others walk past and all I hear is swearing.

I always stop them and tell them to watch their language, sometimes I will get abuse from them, but I make it clear I'll march them over to their parents house if I hear such words from them again. Not really sure that would do any good if I did, while there are so many first class parents who bring their children up the correct way, sadly there are a few who let the children do what ever they want.

Not sure what the answers are really, but I do feel that there is no harm in telling any youngsters you hear swearing that it is wrong, only you have to be so careful these days as some parents who can't see any faults in their children can take things the wrong way.

I know your two girls, they are a real credit to you and at least you can be thankful they have listened to you over the years and have valued the input you have put in to make them such decent young adults.

Swearing is only used for emphasis lets be honest! Usually there's a perfectly good alternative that can be used, like: Blighter, or blaggard! Can just hear it now: Pass the ball Count Carayol, Oh, you greedy scoundrel!

On the subject of auctions, The charity auction in aid of Toddys charity went very well and raised a good bit of money for this very worthy charity.

I just wish that I could get some sort of similar positive response from the Club about the auction or raffle of Tims Play Off Final boots! Its been weeks since I asked the Club to help to sell or raffle them in aid of Clic Sargent (Children With Cancer and Leukaemia). Its like playing cat and mouse. Every time I try to get an answer from the club they keep telling me that they will get back to me and then failing to do so, which seems to be quite unprofessional of them considering what they have done in the past for Leukaemia fundraising. Its so very frustrating! We even considered asking for any proceeds to be set aside to help dear little Megans family, but the absence of any response from the club makes us wonder if this additional request will also fall on deaf ears.

Lewis is only one of many children fighting this awful illness amongst other cancers and you would think they would be a bit more supportive of our request! Tim is exceptionally generous and all it needs is a bit of extra help from the club.

Perhaps we shouldnt hold out for a reply and hold our own charity auction instead where members of the Forum could bid for Tims signed Play-Off Final Boots (Gold I think). This was a suggestion of Daves a few weeks ago and might just be a worthy way of raising some much needed funds for this wonderful organisation or Megans family.

Any thoughts anyone?

You appear to be correct Dave; despite the fact that Darryl did say a few weeks ago that the Club should be able to do something and that they didnt want to ''kill the golden goose'', but they would get back to me about my request, they dont really seem to want to know, which is a bit of a disaster to my mind. Colin Lee passed it onto the admin guys and asked them to deal with it and it appears to have got well and truly buried!

You're probably right that the best way to proceed is to do what you suggested. Gareth (Law) who lives next door to me is trying to help us by keeping in contact with Tim and hopes to have the boots in the next few days. He has also suggested getting hold of the Herald Express with a photo of the handover by Tim to Lewis and giving details of a charity auction if we decide to go down that route! Perhaps we could do something in the very near future through the forum when Lewis has the boots in his possession, and leave the club to get on with ''more important things!''