FL2: Torquay v Accrington Stanley 27th Feb 2010

Look pal, you're not superior to others who have a more pragmatic view; you just think you are and your sneering, patronising manner just gets up my nose. You call a young player "incompetent" based on how many times viewing him? I suppose YOU were a bloody World Class Sunday player eh? and when you want to talk about "incompetence" on a football pitch, that was far more pertinent to David Shawcross' challenge on Aaron Ramsey tonight than one with any malice....................using that tragedy in relation to Rowe-Turner is a cheap bloody shot.

I suggest you spend your next match day at the ballet!

Touch a nerve merse?

Sneering and patronising?

mmmmm............

Aw shucks, I'll blush soon

The reckless tackle made by Rowe-Turner and the assistant referees apparent injury time lapse of concentration.
Incompetent officials?

All of a sudden we love them.

The challenge happened on the halfway line and right on the touchline right in front of the dug outs and it had nothing to do with preventing another defeat I'm afraid so you are very sadly wrong to try and use that as an argument.

I have no problem with players letting the opposition know they are there, even at the level my son has played at and due to his size he always made sure defenders knew he was there.

There is a world of difference between doing that and committing a very dangerous foul that could have caused an injury. Winning is fine but even in football it can't be at any cost and while I know from your past views you are happy to accept and think its just fine to cheat to get a win, its not something I believe in and sure don't want any team I support resorting to it.

I'll take being called pathetic by you, I would exceed the word count per a post if I posted all the names I could come up with for you.

That shows your naivity, it was described by Justin as being done to make a point to the opponent, the point was made and the opponent then "bottled it" and caused no more problem......job done and proof that Rowe-Turner is learning quickly.

Your attitude to professional football would see us relegated sooner than you could ever imagine, so if you are happy for them not to put themselves about then enjoy your football back in the Conference.

When I've seen footage of the incident, I'll let you know my opinion as to whether or not it was "dangerous" in the meantime consider that even with no intent whatsoever, no question of studs being shown or leaving a foot in; a serious injury has been inflicted on a young player in the Premiership tonight as a result of poor execution by a player who has just made the England squad. These things can happen, it does not infer "cheating", nor malice or any intent at all. I certainly never regarded getting "dumped on the cinders" by an opponent I had just made a monkey of as part of any serious intent....................mind you I wasn't really that good for it to happen that often!

I felt LRT's tackle was pure and simply borne out of frustration that he had continually been tricked, outpaced and made to look poor by their sub Chris Turner, who I feel would have probably won the game for Accy had he been on from the start.

It was mis-timed, clumsy and (had Turner's leg been planted) could have ended with a similar injury to poor young Ramsey. Although replays of that tackle on MOTD tonight showed little in the way of malice from Ryan Shawcross...it was mistimed by milliseconds and did not use studs at all - in fact it was Shawcross's laces that made contact with Ramsey's planted ankle after he missed kicking the ball. Certainly not a tackle that should bring extra censure despite the predictable whines from Mr Wenger. Tackles like these are always going to have victims and lucky escapees.

I recall a certain Mr Graeme Kelly going on about challenges like that on John Uzzell happening dozens of times in every games - well tackles like LRT's and Shawcross' do happen regularly...sadly young Ramsey was the unlucky one to get the serious injury from it. Watch the highlights of Brum v Wigan and you will see another one from Liam Ridgewell that was equally as bad as either of them (two footed, from the side and sliding) and the only person who got injured was the poor old linesman who got caught in the face by the flying corner flag that came out of the ground after Ridgewell and James McCarthy clashed.

Of course the Ramsey injury is tragic for him, and I hope as well that it doesn't ruin Shawcross as a player as he is a decent defender, much in the mould of a higher-level Mark Ellis, but I have seen far worse tackles end with no injury at all.