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Post by Dave on Aug 18, 2008 23:39:10 GMT
On forums there has always been three types of posters, you have the rosetinters, the darksiders and those that sit in the middle.
Our first home game we heard booing at halftime, our second game at home, we heard booing at the end. Now Merse seems to think that no one should boo their own team, but why? if they have failed to put in any effort, looked really poor, while you have put in effort to get to the game and payed your money, surly you should have the choice.
I have no problems getting to games these days, but it was not always like that. I spent 16 years working as a milkman. Starting at 3am every day, finished Monday to Thursday by 12 pm.
Friday and Saturdays were collecting days so you had to work much longer hours. To get to a Saturday game I had to do my normal Friday 3am to about 4pm, then start calling on the Saturday payers so I could just deliver their milk on Saturday to save as much time as possible.
I would stay out collecting until 9pm on a Friday night, get home by 10pm, have some food, then of to bed only to be up again at 2am to make sure I was first in the depot. I would then hope to get finished on Saturday by 1.45pm, just enough time to get back from Paignton and up to the ground.
Think of those who travel miles and miles to get to Plainmoor, each one making a big effort to support their team, so if they have made that effort and the players didn't, I believe its fine to boo and let them know just how you feel. If nothing else they may just get the message. Keep happy clapping them and they will never learn.
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Post by capitalgull on Aug 19, 2008 8:10:38 GMT
Actually the booing was louder at half-time and when the announcer again gave out his 'As a reminder to fans, Boots & Laces will not be open at half-time' speech.
I know booing is anti-productive when it comes to player reaction during the game, but to me booing at the end of the game should not leave any reaction other than 'let's avoid that happening again' - if the players are still feeling hurt by the time they come back on the pitch again, then I'd have to question their heart.
Afraid to say based on the performance last night with so many players performing miles off what they can and should be able to produce, passion would be my biggest worry, much as it was at the worst of times under Leroy, and a lot of that passion should be coming from the manager....as it didn't then and as it isn't now. Buckle and North do nothing to inspire me as motivators - they seem more worried about taking on the fans around the dugout where there was at least one flashpoint last night, involving Buckle, a fan and the gentleman responsible for the Setanta manager inserts.
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Post by tqriviera on Aug 19, 2008 9:21:37 GMT
Concerning the "incident" with the Satanta person, for the record I did not see Buckle getting involved in it!
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Post by capitalgull on Aug 19, 2008 9:43:00 GMT
There was definitely one member of TUFC staff involved, and I did see Buckle turn around to remonstrate at one point...whether the two incidents were related I cannot confirm.
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Post by tufcwewillbeback on Aug 19, 2008 10:32:06 GMT
I would'nt boo myself but I can sometimes understand those who do. Last night for instance, the performance was rubbish so I could understand it. I dont however have any respect for those who boo every time we lose. We have to understand that some teams will beat us when we play pretty well because they just played brilliantly or got abit lucky. Last night we were bad so I acn understand those who booed the team.
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Post by forevertufc on Aug 19, 2008 19:40:33 GMT
supporters will get frustrated when they see their team not put the right effort in ,i dont mind when torquay lose if they have put the effort in and are seen to have done their best to win,cronin made 1 save from todd about says it all for me ,we all love the club to bits i would not boo at anytime ,my way of showing protest if you like at a bad performance is to walk away and not clap the team ,fans do have the right to show when their not happy but would say leave it untill the end if the game ,you heard boo's at half time and when fleet got their second goal a chant of what a load of rubbish this just heaps pressure on the team when they our support the most
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Post by Dave on Aug 19, 2008 19:46:18 GMT
hi forevertufc, I would much prefers if fans did not boo, I would have to be really as bad as it could get for me to start doing it.
The real point is that times have changed and these days people will show their displeasure far more than they used to.
People would walk out from a restaurant and never complain while there that the food was rubbish, now you just watch them demand their money back. Fans these days will boo far more than when I ever first started it going, not sure its good, but its with us.
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Post by tufc01 on Aug 19, 2008 20:17:59 GMT
Its OK to Boo when inept officials make decisions that everyone in the ground know was wrong, but NEVER, EVER at your own team.
I haven't missed a home game in over 3 seasons and in that time seen some pretty horrible performances, however i have ALWAYS waited until the end and clapped the players off. There has always been someone who looked like they were making an effort, the same can not be said last night.
I have never left a game before the end, although i was close to leaving at half time away at Oxford last year. Last night i moved to the exit near the end and as soon as the final whistle blew i left, no clapping, no booing.
The players already knew they were bad, booing would just cause friction between the players and the fans, not something we need right now. I didn't feel the players deserved any applause so left.
Out of interest was there the usual group hug and did the players go and clap the fans??
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Post by Dave on Aug 19, 2008 20:25:40 GMT
it did not look like they did on the TV but then I did not watch to the end of the program as I wanted to get on here. It is something that is more common these days, as I said its not my style, but I do feel it does not hurt to let the players know how disappointed you were with their performance.
If things are not sorted soon on the playing side I can only see it getting worse. But then this is football, come out play a good game, get a win and the fickle few will be singing as if we won the FA cup ;D
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Post by jerry on Aug 19, 2008 20:36:21 GMT
No there was no post match huddle but several of the players did come over to applaud the fans and were roundly abused for there trouble!  |
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Post by Dave on Aug 19, 2008 20:42:14 GMT
No there was no post match huddle but several of the players did come over to applaud the fans and were roundly abused for there trouble! I do find that sad, but understandable, football is such an emotional sport, where can you go through every single emotion in one and a half hours  |
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Post by tufcwewillbeback on Aug 19, 2008 21:27:03 GMT
Personnaly, the Booing does'nt really bother me much dispite the fact I would'nt do it. What bothers me most is some of the abuse that is aimed at the players of the other team. If im honest, I swear at football matches all the time in frustration but aiming abusive language at members of another team is unreasonable. I find it quite funny sometimes when im in the pop. People will be standing around having civilised conversations about taxes or something and the opposition win a throw in. Suddenly they launch a terrade of abuse at whichever unlucky player comes over to take the throw in. Obviously this is what most players expect to get at away grounds but for some it can be clearly distressing.
I think that people belive that some behavior should be deemed acceptable because of where they are. Most sports, such as Rugby, for instance, encourage friendly rivalry but this seems to be something witch cant be accepted by many football fans.
I know i've gone way off topic but it would be interesting to get somr thoughts on this too.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2008 21:34:39 GMT
I do swear when I'm with me mates etc but not at football I do shout and jump about I just think i find it embarrassing to be swearing out loud. There is often Lady's around where I stand sure I bet they could swear worse than me but I don't like to swear if ladies are near by.
There is one man on the popside always with his wife at the front near the halfway line, he does my head in always shouting at the linesman or ref he really likes to hear his own voice that one does.
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Post by Dave on Aug 23, 2008 17:47:49 GMT
After todays result, I do fear what may happen at Plainmoor on Monday. Fans already very unhappy, will I'm afraid be pushed over the edge far to easily, if both the performance and result are not good.
We all know one good game, one good result can swing the moods of the fans, the best we can hope for is this is what happens on Monday.
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Post by Dave on Sept 13, 2008 7:19:51 GMT
Bringing this thread up again only because of what happened at the Lewes match on Thursday night. Anyone who watched the game may agree that the Lewes players gave their best during the game and were really only undone in a ten mins spell.
Now the team were four down and the game did not have long to go, so I was really pleased to see the camera point to the crowd, who were singing and showing great support. I was thinking to myself how good It was to see fans who's team were four down, still showing their support.
That was until the final whistle when I was then shocked to hear loud booing, so I do not think It matters what team you support, If results go the wrong way, booing seems to be the order of the day by some fans at every club.
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