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Post by The knight who says "nee" on Feb 22, 2010 13:41:20 GMT
As a responsible dog owner who always picks up after my dog - yes Aussie I'm the 1 in the 10 (!!) - i reckon we should introduce a licence to keep a dog. Not only could this help solve the problem of mess but could also help with the problem of irresponsible people having aggressive dogs. Get caught not picking up yellow card, caught again and your off licence removed no more dogs for you my friend. How many people would shirk the responsibility then? The one thing I did try too get across was that I`m not anti-dog or owner, I used to have a dog back in Aus and we had to have a licence that you payed the council for, difference is that we didn`t have chav`s back then who used dogs as weapons or bling and people had dogs becaused they loved them and they were a part of the family, treated as such as well, I am glad you are the one in ten (feel a song coming on ), problem is every dog owner says that, difference is I believe you! It`s like littering, quite a lot of people don`t think it`s that wrong and openly drop rubbish on the floor, I believe it might have something to do with a lack of parenting, there seems to be a generation of people who just don`t give a shit( no pun intended ) and if you dare confront them about their behaviour or lack of it then they get abusive, where as back a decade or two ago people would have felt embarrased at least to get caught littering or being responsible for their or their pets actions and or behaviour! Myself and other like minded parents are trying to bring our kids up instead of letting them bring themselves up, look at the difference in behaviour at the club with kids that are older teens compared to the younger ones (junior gulls for example) there is in my opinion a massive difference, before anyone goes p.c. mad at me I`m not labeling all of the older teens at the club with the same thing some of them are a credit to thier parents but I think you will know what I mean! The Junior Gulls had a day out over Paignton C.C. and they kids had to wait for the players to stop training, they were very well behaved and waited as patiently as kids can, they kept asking me when will they be ready and all they wanted was a ball to kick around while they waited, very proud of all the Junior Gulls! The "C" word song comes from a group of older kids in the Pop side that should be ashamed of themselves and their parents should be ashamed of them as well, I know I would be very niave to think that everyone in society is going to be perfect but it does actually help if people make a bloody effort! I think the whole thing missing nowadays is something we once called RESPECT! Think you've hit the nail on the head there mate. The beauty of a licence is that only the poeple who have got something to worry about would be against it. Wouldn't have to cost a lot - say £10 a year - but would make people think a bit more about buying a dog. Any money left over could go to help pay for having the bins emptied. Its so easy to get a dog these days with all these breeders around looking to make a buck. Unfortunatley some of these breeders (not all) just see the £ signs and don't care who the dog goes to. Some people buy a dog with as much thought as buying a computer game. As the slogan goes "a dog is for life.......", getting off thread but its something that really p's me off! |
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Post by lambethgull on Feb 22, 2010 13:48:37 GMT
What the hell are zoonoses? Zoonoses are infectious diseases that can be transmitted from animals to humans. |
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Post by lambethgull on Feb 22, 2010 13:50:17 GMT
Licenses would be unenforceaable imo, or too costly to enforce effectively.
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Post by aussie on Feb 22, 2010 17:07:24 GMT
Licenses would be unenforceaable imo, or too costly to enforce effectively. When you get a licence you get a dog tag with a council stamp on it, any dog that is out with or without an owner that has no tag gets impounded until the owner comes up with the fine money and the money to licence it then they can have the dog back. Anyone caught breeding dogs without a dog breeding licence gets a big fine and all the dogs taken away, never allowed to breed agian. To begin with there will be a surplus of dogs in kennels but after a while it should start to improve the whole dog issue, you would find that people who have dogs then will be good dog owners agian, it should weed out the dross and become to much of a hassle for them to bother using dogs instead of caring for them! |
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Post by lambethgull on Feb 22, 2010 18:00:29 GMT
Licenses would be unenforceaable imo, or too costly to enforce effectively. When you get a licence you get a dog tag with a council stamp on it, any dog that is out with or without an owner that has no tag gets impounded until the owner comes up with the fine money and the money to licence it then they can have the dog back. Anyone caught breeding dogs without a dog breeding licence gets a big fine and all the dogs taken away, never allowed to breed agian. To begin with there will be a surplus of dogs in kennels but after a while it should start to improve the whole dog issue, you would find that people who have dogs then will be good dog owners agian, it should weed out the dross and become to much of a hassle for them to bother using dogs instead of caring for them! Who's going to pay for the wardens? Who's going to pay for the administration of it? Running such a system in London with its millions of humans and tens of thousands of dogs would be next to impossible. I don't like dog waste any more than the next man, but I'd rather see my taxes spent on more urgent causes thank you very much! |
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Post by aussie on Feb 22, 2010 18:31:05 GMT
We already have dog wardens and the licence fee to the council covers the costs!
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Post by The knight who says "nee" on Feb 22, 2010 19:16:03 GMT
Which is why a dog licence makes sense, the people who have dogs (like me) pay for the costs associated with dogs.
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Post by lambethgull on Feb 22, 2010 21:16:23 GMT
Which is why a dog licence makes sense, the people who have dogs (like me) pay for the costs associated with dogs. Sounds fair to me mate...until you factor in those who wouldn't pay. After all, aren't all drivers supposed to have insurance?  |
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Post by aussie on Feb 23, 2010 8:48:24 GMT
Which is why a dog licence makes sense, the people who have dogs (like me) pay for the costs associated with dogs. Sounds fair to me mate...until you factor in those who wouldn't pay. After all, aren't all drivers supposed to have insurance? They can always choose to go to jail like anyone who fails to pay fines! As you all know I have had a little poke at the Herald Express in the past for reading this site and then publishing stuff the next day that looked almost suspisciously like they monitor certain sites for info, well there I was half tongue in cheek about the Torquay chat they seemed to have copied from here and not to long afterwards I start a thread about dog mess, well I laughed my bollocks off this morning when I picked up the paper, I know it`s just coincidence but still found it amusing to find on page 10 of the H/E that a bloke has just been fined £340 for letting his dog sh1t on the pavement and that on page 13 the headline reads "Clean-up crackdown aims to make dog owners more responsible". There is a blitz to start in Paignton with a partnership of the council and the Police, Hoooorrrrraaaaayyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Honest you couldn`t make it up! |
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Post by frankfurt gull on Feb 23, 2010 19:19:40 GMT
I took our dog for a walk one Sunday and had to cross a footbridge over the river which is only about a meter wide. As walked onto the bridge he grinned at me and let fly about half a bucketfull of fluid from his rear end. The pool was big enough to cover the width of the bridge and within a minute there was a queue of pedestrians and cyclists building up. I tied him to the railing and scooted to a nearby cafe for a bucket of water. When I got back there was chaos going on as one bloke had come along on a mountain bike (without mudguards), ridden through it and had "freckels" up the back of his shirt. I threw the water over it which only made things worse so I grabbed the dog and making out I couldn´t speak German (me nix deutsch speekee) cleared off as quick as I could.
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Post by rjdgull on Feb 23, 2010 23:16:43 GMT
I made the mistake of taking the dog to a "walk to school day."  This involved meeting at a car park ;D and then walking up en-masse. With a young enthusiastic spaniel pulling like the clappers, ended up at the front of the procession. Needless to say, next to a busy road, slap bang in the middle of the pavement, dog squats down and makes a rather large deposit. Cue, fifty odd kids with said parents pushing past with slightly contorted faces as I try to restrain the spaniel from taking off for the front again with one hand, fumbling for a doggy bag with the other, positioning myself to stop anyone, including myself from taking that fatal step and desperately trying to keep upright.  As for picking up the stuff, at least there is an upside on a cold winter's day - at least for the first minute or so.  |
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Post by aussie on Feb 24, 2010 8:57:38 GMT
I took our dog for a walk one Sunday and had to cross a footbridge over the river which is only about a meter wide. As walked onto the bridge he grinned at me and let fly about half a bucketfull of fluid from his rear end. The pool was big enough to cover the width of the bridge and within a minute there was a queue of pedestrians and cyclists building up. I tied him to the railing and scooted to a nearby cafe for a bucket of water. When I got back there was chaos going on as one bloke had come along on a mountain bike (without mudguards), ridden through it and had "freckels" up the back of his shirt. I threw the water over it which only made things worse so I grabbed the dog and making out I couldn´t speak German (me nix deutsch speekee) cleared off as quick as I could. Unlucky!!! Sometimes there just isn`t a lot you can do when something like that happens, what the hell do you feed it? |
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Post by aussie on Feb 24, 2010 9:00:05 GMT
I made the mistake of taking the dog to a "walk to school day." This involved meeting at a car park ;D and then walking up en-masse. With a young enthusiastic spaniel pulling like the clappers, ended up at the front of the procession. Needless to say, next to a busy road, slap bang in the middle of the pavement, dog squats down and makes a rather large deposit. Cue, fifty odd kids with said parents pushing past with slightly contorted faces as I try to restrain the spaniel from taking off for the front again with one hand, fumbling for a doggy bag with the other, positioning myself to stop anyone, including myself from taking that fatal step and desperately trying to keep upright. As for picking up the stuff, at least there is an upside on a cold winter's day - at least for the first minute or so. Yours and Frankfurts post just sum up the some of the joys of owning a dog! You got to take the good with the bad, some people just want the good and ignore the bad, that`s the difference between you guys and bad dog owners! |
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This involved meeting at a car park 
