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Post by bbcgull on Jul 22, 2008 11:29:15 GMT
As a seperate thread from your Ground Visits.. use this if you want to keep a record of your 92 Club visits... 01. TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR (White Hart Lane) 02. BRISTOL CITY (Ashton Gate) 03. LEYTON ORIENT (Matchroom Stadium) 04. CHELTENHAM TOWN (Whaddon Road) 05. BRISTOL ROVERS (Memorial Stadium) 06. BURY (Gigg Lane) 07. WEST BROMWICH ALBION (The Hawthorns) 08. YEOVIL TOWN (Huish Park) 09. AFC BOURNEMOUTH (Fitness First Stadium) 10. SOUTHEND UNITED (Roots Hall) 11. PORTSMOUTH (Fratton Park) 12. SOUTHAMPTON (St. Mary's Stadium) 13. BRIGHTON & HOVE ALBION (Withdean Stadium) |
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Post by bbcgull on Mar 24, 2010 10:27:30 GMT
Feel free to use this tool for your 92 lists, if you need me to calculate i will do so.
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Post by Budleigh on Mar 24, 2010 21:41:34 GMT
What would you consider the criteria?
A fully paid-up league or cup match?
I only ask as I have a few 'oddities'.
For instance, Charlton v Crystal Palace at Selhurst when Charlton were sharing the ground and were the home side on this occasion. I've not seen Palace at Selhurst otherwise. Since the Addicks have long since gone but Crystal Palace are still there what would this count as, being that they were officially the away side but unofficially at home?
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Post by bbcgull on Mar 25, 2010 13:07:51 GMT
Well of course the other thread is for ALL ground visits but here is the 92 one and really i go by THE official rules.... of course you can argue that some of the following ARENT relevant:
if a team shares u must see the relevant team as the home team, see below.. First Team game at the home teams ground competitve so league or cup not friendlies or test if they fall out fo the league they must be got again on their return and if a team moves you CAN count it for the season of the move and 1 after
of course there are mainy reasons why the 92 is out of date but for this thread as i go per rules.
in aswer to your questions - it would have counted as Charlton at Selhusrt but 2 years after the new move it would cease tyo count and u will have to see palace at palce and charlton at charlton now
hope that hekps
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Post by bbcgull on Mar 25, 2010 13:10:09 GMT
as a postscript, if you feel you have got selhurst as you have been there fine, most people now have there own rules howerver if you ever get to 92 and officially claim you have they will turn you down on that basis
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Post by bbcgull on Mar 25, 2010 14:08:34 GMT
...from the official 92 Club site: Membership is only open to supporters who have already attended a first-team competitive fixture played at the current ground of each of the 92 Football/Premier League clubs during those clubs' current period of membership of the League (i.e. since their promotion from the Conference regardless of previous League membership). To qualify, on the day your 92nd ground is visited, you must have visited the current grounds of the other 91 League clubs. During the last few seasons, there has been some confusion regarding both valid games and grounds. It must be appreciated that this club did compile general guidelines when first formed in June 1978, but as time has passed these have required clarification as competitons, grounds and the League itself has changed. We have never refused any application in which the applicant has genuinely visited every ground even if some of the submitted details were incomplete. However, if it is clear that the "claimed visits" have not been completed "within our rules" then the application has been refused. (1) Qualifiers are expected to complete their record in full, prior to acceptance. However, the absence of score or attendance details for each match will not necessarily invalidate the application. (2) Any recognised competition normally entered by Football/Premier League Clubs at first-team level may be included. (3) Only matches played on or after the start of any club's present period within the League can be included. (4) Other First Team matches played at grounds listed also qualify. If the ground is used as a neutral ground, eg an F.A. Cup semi-final, than that counts as a visit to that ground's home club. This includes "home" matches played by Bradford City and Bristol Rovers whilst their own grounds were closed due to fire damage. (5) In the case of clubs moving grounds, either the original ground or the new ground can be counted during the first two seasons following the move. Once the club has played at the new ground for two seasons then the original ground becomes invalid and thereafter only the new ground can be counted within the 92. (6) World Cup, International and Inter-League matches count. (7) Visits to grounds of teams now competing outside the Football League are only valid if all other 91 members' home grounds had been visited up to the time the now non-League Club left the League, Newport County, and Aldershot etc.. (8) If any club leaves the League, visits up to that date do not count, even if they are subsequently re-elected. (9) Any other grounds which come into use after the member's original qualification date will, once visited, count as that member's ground number 93, 94 etc.. (10) Any other matches seen will be considered if full details are submitted with your application. To avoid any confusion, each season the club compiles a full list of valid and invalid grounds together with relevant dates to assist potential members in meeting these criteria. This list is available after September 1st each year by sending a stamped and addressed envelope to the point of contact. To support your application, you will be expected to supply a simple list of 92 different matches in alphabetical order of home club to include date, teams, competition, score and attendance which will be returned after examination together with our Application Forms. It is appreciated that you may not have maintained detailed records when you first watched soccer, but the Club does provide a statistical service to assist in tracing any missing details. Once you have enrolled for Membership, you will have to resign your Membership in writing to leave the Club. With annual promotion/relegation issues affecting the lowest division, there will be two new grounds to visit each season. It is hoped that existing Members will visit these grounds in accordance with the spirit of the Club. However, the Club has yet to expel an existing Member for not visiting a new ground. Once you have completed your "grand tour" and enrolled, visiting these new grounds is not compulsory. Source: www.ninetytwoclub.org.uk/nineq.htm
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Post by Budleigh on Mar 25, 2010 16:31:12 GMT
That clears that up then...!! 92 visits to current league grounds, simple really So if someone, say, visited Plainmoor when we were a non-league club and saw a BSP game then they have to re-visit again and watch a football league game for qualification... Makes sense. But what if they saw an FA Cup third round game whilst the club were in the Conference? I suppose it still wouldn't count as the team weren't a current league side, despite them then gaining promotion and it effectively being a first team match.
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Post by bbcgull on Mar 26, 2010 12:51:49 GMT
indeed the simple answer to that is that the club was in the Conference so not part of the 92 even though we WERE playing a 92 team 'they' were the away team.
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Post by Budleigh on Mar 26, 2010 14:12:34 GMT
Sorry mate... I really shouldn't've asked in the first place!
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Post by bbcgull on Mar 26, 2010 14:56:16 GMT
Not a problem at all.... remember me and Mark created the TU92 site back in the day, i love this sort of thread!!!
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Post by Budleigh on Mar 26, 2010 15:04:04 GMT
Ok then... grounds visited... Does a game need to be seen for it to count, or just a visit?
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Post by bbcgull on Mar 26, 2010 15:09:04 GMT
well of course it is the amazing 'each to their own' rule of course. any hopper will tell you to set the rules you like - however, for me, i would of course count seeing a game!
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Post by bbcgull on May 13, 2010 10:28:14 GMT
editting my list to show the loss of Colchester on the 2 year rule. Nearly bloody lost cheltenahm too!!!!
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Post by bbcgull on Nov 3, 2011 9:32:53 GMT
Don't forget to can list your 92 Club visits here and edit them whenever you get more.... here is mine.... sadly lacking now as most of my visits are now non league!!!!
01. TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR (White Hart Lane) 02. BRISTOL CITY (Ashton Gate) 03. LEYTON ORIENT (Matchroom Stadium) 04. CHELTENHAM TOWN (Whaddon Road) 05. BRISTOL ROVERS (Memorial Stadium) 06. BURY (Gigg Lane) 07. WEST BROMWICH ALBION (The Hawthorns) 08. YEOVIL TOWN (Huish Park) 09. AFC BOURNEMOUTH (Fitness First Stadium) 10. SOUTHEND UNITED (Roots Hall) 11. PORTSMOUTH (Fratton Park) 12. SOUTHAMPTON (St. Mary's Stadium) 13. BRIGHTON & HOVE ALBION (Withdean Stadium)
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Post by Rob on Jan 8, 2012 19:46:03 GMT
You have to strike Withdean off, bbc. Lamex at Falmer current ground. I couldn't have really counted walking up a hill and peering through a fence at Withdean, myself. Though I did get to see Eifion's winner that day through that gap. I decided not to bother with the place after that shut out, though have done Priestfield and Goldstone form Brighton,'yet to do bartons recently visited Lamex. Have viewed it from the outside as my daughter played a game in an adjoining COE facility last season there v Brighton. Bloody nice it looks, too.
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