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Post by stefano on Sept 20, 2010 21:19:24 GMT
I definitely saw The Milk Race shooting along the Newton Road near Penn Inn when I was a kid and it would have been about 1963 or 1964. If I had had to watch it again I may have lost the will to live!  The Tour de France also went through Plymouth in the sixties, but having experienced The Milk Race I pretended I didn't know and hid under the bed when my friends came to catch the train to Plymouth to see people cycling! I had a bike myself for heavens sake!! |
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Post by keyberrygull on Sept 20, 2010 21:55:13 GMT
What was the year/era Barton? Obviously a long time before a day during the late 70s when I was fog marched to do a similar thing at Newton Abbots war memorial. I was at primary school from 1960 to 1967 and would refine the memory to around 1963-1967. The link below confirms that stages finished in Paignton fairly regularly in those days: www.cyclingarchives.com/wedstrijdfiche.php?wedstrijdid=327When you were leaving primary school I was leaving Newton Abbot Hospital in a Carry cot. All being well, see you Saturday. |
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Post by merse on Sept 20, 2010 22:07:13 GMT
I definitely saw The Milk Race shooting along the Newton Road near Penn Inn when I was a kid and it would have been about 1963 or 1964. If I had had to watch it again I may have lost the will to live!
The Tour de France also went through Plymouth in the sixties,  I saw those too, there was a rider called Roy Hopkins, who my dad knew who was riding in it as dad used to marshall and time keep for the Mid Devon CC; I think he lived in Kingskerswell...................Roy, not my dad! ;D Anyway, we waited by the roadside by Milber Shelter for them to come by...................never did workout which one was Roy!  The Tour de France made it's debut on British Roads to publicise the opening of the new Brittany Ferries link to Roscoff from Plymouth and as the ferry company was owned by Breton farmers they put in a bid to get a stage over here using the ferry to bring the show over and then take it back to France. It probably goes down as the most boring stage ever in the long and illustrious history of the tour as it only went up and down the recently completed Plympton By Pass which had yet to be opened as part of the A38  |
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Post by aussie on Sept 21, 2010 6:00:18 GMT
I think there are far too many bloody un-taxed cyclists .................. I think you'll find "cyclists" pay just as much tax as other people in society Aussie, and if you think roads are purely funded from road tax you're as barking as much as you're naive. I am neither a motorist nor a cyclist at the moment due to health issues for the former and the fact that someone nicked me bike and I haven't the money to replace it now that I really need one. However, the roads belong to ALL of us, those of us who ride on buses for instance ~ what do they move around on? When the fire engine comes to your house, what does it arrive on? The ambulance, Postman Pat and the dustcart? You put your rant on the Tour of Britain thread, surely you don't think that road race caused any more traffic disruption than your average road accident between two myopic drivers do you? They use rolling road closures and as soon as the race has whizzed through the roads are open again. Moaning about "un taxed" cyclists? Give us a break sport! Well that provoked a reaction didn`t it! Can you prove this allegation of tax paying? Also does this now mean I can drive my car on the road without a current tax disk? Oh also I`ve never seen a fireman attend a fire on a BIKE! What has the fireman issue got to do with cyclists holding up 5 miles of traffic on an A road at peak hour when your trying to get to work? One other point I wasn`t bagging out the race itself just cyclists who get in the way constantly, I fancy a new hood ornament!  |
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Post by aussie on Sept 21, 2010 6:01:08 GMT
Slowing you down Aussie!? Have a chill pill and look at that geezer pedalling away - not causing pollution, keeping him or herself fit and lessening the burden on the NHS and using a road that was built with them and smaller vehicles in mind. Yep, they may ignore many road laws from time to time but in their chosen mode of transport they don't kill you if they hit you (well, not as often of course). More power to their calves in my opinion. Idiots abound but I reckon there's less of 'em on a bike than in a 4x4. p.s. I've just given mine to the tat-man, it was over 30-years old, weighed a ton, with straight handlebars and a back muddie nearly the size of the wheel - a bit embarrassing really ... I've also got too many scars and too poor reactions to be out on it now anyway - two trees, a stationary vehicle and the tarmac on the road down from the Clent Hills are salutary lessons! Mind you some of those riders from Stourbridge Cycle Club must be Septugenarians - makes me a little bit humble. Hooked you as well `eh, what a great days fishing! ;D |
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Post by stefano on Sept 21, 2010 7:10:16 GMT
The Tour de France also went through Plymouth in the sixties.... The Tour de France made it's debut on British Roads to publicise the opening of the new Brittany Ferries link to Roscoff from Plymouth and as the ferry company was owned by Breton farmers they put in a bid to get a stage over here using the ferry to bring the show over and then take it back to France. It probably goes down as the most boring stage ever in the long and illustrious history of the tour as it only went up and down the recently completed Plympton By Pass which had yet to be opened as part of the A38 Yes that would be it, I did wonder after I had posted whether it was actually in the 1960's or early 1970's. The Brittany Ferries link helps to date it, as the Roscoff - Plymouth route opened in 1972. |
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Post by lambethgull on Sept 21, 2010 16:24:54 GMT
I think there are far too many bloody un-taxed cyclists slowing me down or stopping me completely when I`m driving a totally, legally, fully taxed vehicle on the road! When they can be bothered to pay hundreds of pounds every year to build and repair roads then they can ride on them and slow everything down, until then they build their own riding stadia such as veladrome or whatever, they could buy land and build roads to race on like anyone who wants to race a car or a motor bike! What the hell makes them so fecken precious? Roads are funded through general taxation, which everyone pays, and council tax, which most people pay. But let's not let facts get in the way of a good old rant, eh? Hooked you as well `eh, what a great days fishing! ;D That's a pretty limited and childish way of conducting debate, don't you think? |
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Post by stefano on Sept 21, 2010 16:45:07 GMT
Hooked you as well `eh, what a great days fishing! That's a pretty limited and childish way of conducting debate, don't you think? I'm not really too sure there is anything wrong with that Lambeth. Aussie wasn't actually involved in a debate with anybody, he had just initiated some new points on a thread and I do not see anything wrong with being a little provocative or tongue in cheek to see what sort of reaction it gets. Cyclists are an easy target as they do not pay road tax, they think that traffic lights and other road signs giving instructions do not apply to them, they ride dangerously on pavements, most have no insurance, and they wear that awful looking lycra, to name but only a few of their sins. I take it you're a cyclist then? ;D |
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Post by aussie on Sept 21, 2010 17:28:29 GMT
That's a pretty limited and childish way of conducting debate, don't you think? I'm not really too sure there is anything wrong with that Lambeth. Aussie wasn't actually involved in a debate with anybody, he had just initiated some new points on a thread and I do not see anything wrong with being a little provocative or tongue in cheek to see what sort of reaction it gets. Cyclists are an easy target as they do not pay road tax, they think that traffic lights and other road signs giving instructions do not apply to them, they ride dangerously on pavements, most have no insurance, and they wear that awful looking lycra, to name but only a few of their sins. I take it you're a cyclist then? ;D Easy targets all right, their slow, can`t move sideways and easy to run over! ;D |
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Post by lambethgull on Sept 21, 2010 18:27:47 GMT
That's a pretty limited and childish way of conducting debate, don't you think? Lambeth. Aussie wasn't actually involved in a debate with anybody, he had just initiated some new points on a thread and I do not see anything wrong with being a little provocative or tongue in cheek to see what sort of reaction it gets. Cyclists are an easy target as they do not pay road tax, they think that traffic lights and other road signs giving instructions do not apply to them, they ride dangerously on pavements, most have no insurance, and they wear that awful looking lycra, to name but only a few of their sins. I take it you're a cyclist then? ;D I asked if it was a pretty childish and limited way of conducting debate, which I happen to think it is. Nothing wrong with a windup, but if all someone is going to do is the equivalent of knocking the door and hiding behind a hedge, I think it's reasonable to ask what that actually adds to a discussion. I am a cyclist actually, as well as a car-driver and motorcyclist. I use my bike to get to work where I pay lots of income tax that pays for Aussie's roads in Devon  |
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Post by lambethgull on Sept 21, 2010 18:31:35 GMT
Cyclists are an easy target as they do not pay road tax, they think that traffic lights and other road signs giving instructions do not apply to them, they ride dangerously on pavements, most have no insurance, and they wear that awful looking lycra, to name but only a few of their sins. None of the above applies to me, except the lack of cycle insurance (although anyone who believes they have right on their side and wants to sue me is at liberty to do so  ). |
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Post by stefano on Sept 21, 2010 18:34:37 GMT
Cyclists are an easy target as they do not pay road tax, they think that traffic lights and other road signs giving instructions do not apply to them, they ride dangerously on pavements, most have no insurance, and they wear that awful looking lycra, to name but only a few of their sins. None of the above applies to me, except the lack of cycle insurance (although anyone who believes they have right on their side and wants to sue me is at liberty to do so ). Not just a touch of lycra then? |
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Post by capitalgull on Sept 21, 2010 18:48:57 GMT
I don't mind cyclists on the road, but the next one who tries to barge past me while I am walking on the pavement might find his face hitting that pavement pretty darn hard |
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Post by merse on Sept 21, 2010 21:55:56 GMT
I don't mind cyclists on the road, but the next one who tries to barge past me while I am walking on the pavement might find his face hitting that pavement pretty darn hard I would think that riding a bike into something built like a phone box would render most people like that anyway!  |
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