Tatty-bye.

Dave, you seem to be labouring under the incorrect assumption that the only reason for these evenings is to raise money - which it certainly is not.

TUST officers take the trouble to talk to and to listen to members, which is what all good clubs and societies do. It is clear that although everyone appreciates the tremendous work that TUST does, particularly with involving young supporters with the club and with improving facilities for wheelchair-bound and partially-sighted supporters, some feel that TUST should do more for its members. The continuing support of members is vital if TUST is to flourish and be able to pursue its aim of furthering the cause of TUFC and placing the club at the heart of the community. Members must not be, and will not be, taken for granted.

That is the main driver behind these social events - if they make money that can be used to further TUST's aims, that is a bonus. The discount offered to TUST members does indeed mean that little or no profit will be made from them - but that is not the point of the exercise.

Non-members are more than welcome and £15 is a more than fair price. Just compare it to typical fundraising Sportsmen's dinners which often cost around £50.

The capacity at No 10s is only 80. At the last event, 73 tickets were sold. Several people have told me that they missed the last event but, having heard how good it was, want to come to this one. I'm quite hopeful that this one will be a sellout.

Jon, I'm not really prepared to get into some long debate about the views I hold and the reasons I do so, this will be my last post on this subject.

The main aim of Legends night night was for Lou to raise money for the children's section that she is in charge off. The night was a great success because it had a winning formula.

For my part I was happy to give Lou my support, yes I got a free dinner but due to my work etc, I would not normally attend such events and my Carol cooks for me ever evening anyway.

That night raised a good sum and to say such nights are not about raising money is a bit foolish in my view, if its just to provide a social evening to say thank you to TUST members, then it should be a members only evening in my view.

Such events in my view should be used to raise all the much needed funds the TUST needs to carry on all the good work it is doing, but I do not subscribe to any policy that sees two tear pricing for fans of TUFC.

That is the view I hold and I have fully explained to Lou, why at this time I prefer to channel in any money I can straight into the club, that is just a personal thing.

The forum fully supports what the TUST does, to that end it provides a board for it to use and a direct link to its own website.

By the time I got home from the Legends night and packed away all the PA system etc, I got four hours sleep before I had to drive 370 miles for my company. I had no problem with that as I was happy that TUFC fans who went had an enjoyable evening.

I certainly am not knocking Lou for all her efforts, I only have stated I do not agree with the pricing policy, one I believe was one taken out of her hands.

Woods was only player of the year due to people with an axe to grind with the manager!
Don't get me wrong I value his contribution to the club over 8 years and he was playing well last season but he never would have won if it wasn't for the fall out.
Lee Mansell by a mile for me and we obviously missed him yesterday with Robbo having to cover a position he isn't comfortable with.

Please can we forget about Steve Woods and move forward
with the players who are here.

Yep, that's about Woods' level. And that fact surely vindicates the manager's decision to dispense with his services. Quite how that man has ever been lauded by the small and irritating faction which continues to idolise him will forever remain a mystery.

Far be it for me to wade into the debate about the TUST function (unable to attend as I am), but the peanuts involved in the cost of attending - be it as a member or non-member - is surely out of all proportion to the strength of feeling held by those with objections.

As for the disgruntled posters, take it on the chin, Dave. You're never going to please everyone, and it's a waste of time and effort even trying. .

I expect you were saying the same things after a whole two league games last season as well.
I didn't hear you complaining about Tim Sills when he powered that header into the Wembley net a couple of months ago.
Yes we have lost a game. what team doesn't. I believe David Moyes team had 6 put past them at home by a supposedly weak Arsenal team and he is rated as one of the best managers in the country.
Stop whingeing and start supporting!

1. What about Bevans part/role in each of the goals?. He was either injured or had a very bad day. On another day he could have kept out some of those goals. That said i am not about to start defending the back 4 who were clearly out of sorts. Nicholson had the worst game i have seen him play and no matter who was standing and pointing he still looked completely outclassed & Robertson is definitely no Right Back.

Nicholson, Todd & Robertson were well off the pace yesterday, but then again Woods wasn't exactly Usain Bolt either.

I fail to see how the perception of a player now plying his trade 2 divisions below ours would have made a significant difference yesterday. I know he is held in god like esteem by some, but i doubt very much that his presence would have altered the scoreline.

Its not so much a point of looking for evidence to suggest that the defence were stronger, more a point that they, and the majority of the team, collectively had a bad day.

I think there are 2 separate issues here. Yes the defence is a bit of a worry at the moment, but Woods is not the answer, in fact IMO he should not even be factored into the equation.

2. Surely not pertinent at all. If he was playing for a League 2 team, or even a top BSP team then maybe. But the fact that NONE of the managers in those leagues consider him to be good enough to sign, then that puts to bed the reality of him being good enough for this team or this league.

3. Fully agree here. I'm afraid Toddy is looking a bit of a liability at the moment. Tapped for pace and an annoying habit of being literally all over the opposition. I thought that Charnock was OK yesterday, but the team as a whole under performed so its difficult to say whether he is the answer.

Also agree about the Rendell/Sills partnership. Benyon has done enough, and proved it again yesterday, that he fully deserves a starting position alongside either Sills or Rendell.

I'd be very surprised if (a) we play as bad as that as a team for the rest of the season. There are going to be games when 2, 3 or 4 players have bad games, but doubtful that 9 or 10 will.

(b) Credit where Credit is due, Dagenham looked a pretty decent side, so i would also be surprised to see every team we play this season look as good as that?

I'm still putting it down to a bad day at the office, which all teams are entitled to once in a while. Ask Everton, Norwich etc. Just like we did at Kettering last season.

Just as someone said earlier, Tuesdays game at Burton will give us a good pointer to where we are. There can be Little doubt that changes will be made, not only in players but quite possibly in the formation. I wouldn't be surprised to see Bucks go for the 4-1-4-1 formation he tried in the PSF's.

Steve Woods my 4rse! It goes to bits in one game, this early on in the season, before this we have been fairly solid with a " you`ll not pass the 18yrd line " mentallity! Buckle will sort it out, he did last season he will this season! I can`t believe you think Woodsy is the answer, you must just be so anti-buckle you will use any stick you can find to beat him with, I hope this is not the case!