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Post by merse on May 1, 2009 21:40:44 GMT
I agree that was an immense performance in every sense of the word.......................even Sillsy's attempt at a "Zorro" sword swish in front of the "Baby Kop" after his goal! A word too for the referee: easily the best in this league (he did our game up at Burton recently) and a total contrast to the blow up at all costs attitude of THAT one at Salisbury recently. The important factor tonight was that he allowed the play to flow which in turn rewarded the positive attitude we showed from the first whistle to the last and although BOTH sides had good shouts for penalties they couldn't and didn't hang around to argue because they knew play was about to switch at pace to the other end. BSP football at it's best, whoever claimed this league was a "pub league" is looking pretty ridiculous after our last four appearances on the telly ~ Oxford, Burton and Histon have all given us tremendous games and come out of it the losers because we have had to be immense (as indeed we were at Stevenage when the cameras were not there) just as ridiculous as the one that claimed Buckle should "step aside" if we don't eventually go up....................oh it's the same guy isn't it! The atmosphere tonight came over brilliantly and the argument for making the Babbacombe End only available to fans who are prepared to turn up in acceptable numbers is now really strongly in favour of making it a "Torquay End".................what do folk think? Monday will be a whole different kettle of fish and the lads will need to crank it up from the first whistle in what will be a quiet and less intense atmosphere until the game gets going. No, 2-0 nil at this stage guarantees nothing, but I'd rather be two up than two down wouldn't you?
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Post by jmgull on May 1, 2009 21:57:11 GMT
Well, i think we all prayed and hoped for a 2 goal lead to take up there.........you cant help but feel a tad disappointed that we didn't get another.......3-0 would have reflected our superiority more i think. All in all a memorable night, the tempo and the guts and determination we showed was immense.......this really is a team to be proud of. The atmosphere.....fantastic, singing from all sides of the ground, the (away) end really has tremendous ecoustics, it would be good to keep it as the home end in the future if possible, it certainly adds another dimension to the vocal home support. Night like this don't come along often in the life of a TUFC fan.......i'm sat here with a big cigar reflecting on a team that DESERVE success this season. I'll start worrying about the 2nd leg tomorrow
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Post by Dave on May 1, 2009 21:57:24 GMT
Well that sure was a good game and one we could have won by four goals, still I think we will all be happy taking a two goal lead up to Histon on Monday night.
The gate looked bigger that was announced and you can't fault any one of them for they sung their hearts out during the whole match, you have to ask if Histon deserve to be a league club with such poor support.
At least the extra 2000 TUFC fans who were missing at matches when we only got gates of 1700, saw a good game and you can only wonder just how much that extra support if they had come to all the games could really do to take our club forward.
We played football tonight, passed the ball well and only hit it long when it was right to do so, Wroe was at his best nearly always finding his man with his passing and Hargreaves battled away all night.
How Carlisle has got so much stick this season is beyond me, tonight he was in top form, getting in great tackles and linking up with his team mates so well, Stevens when running at defenders is a real threat and he was unlucky not to score as he had two or three good chances he made himself.
Sills did what he does best, he worked his socks off and deserved his goal, but praise mush also go to his strike partner Sturrock. This man is real class and you have to ask why he is not playing in the championship at least.
Its a shame Sills scissors kick in the box got blocked as that would have bee a spectacular goal and one worthy of winning any match. Wroe hit his shot well for our first goal but it look a defection that sent it inside the right hand post.
Poke did well mostly did give us a scare in the second half when he missed the ball completely, but Mansell was every where in defense tonight and while we at times make clearing our lines harder than we should have, we did what we had to do in the end.
The ref failed to give us a few free kicks he should have but I felt he did OK, was always prepared to bring the ball back for a free kick if we had not gained any advantage.
Our away form has been good all season and there is no reason why we can't go and win at Histon on Monday night, fingers crossed we are two games away from going back into the football league. I have every faith that this is our season and is not going to end in tears like the last two.
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Post by buster on May 1, 2009 22:02:57 GMT
Merse totally agree re babacombe end. Suggested it earlier in the season but no one felt it was practical.
As for the tie, this is`nt over. I`m not even mentioning the W name. After what happened against Exeter, I`ll start planning when the final whistle goes on monday if we have scored more on agg than Histon.
Been out all evening so havn`t caught one highlight or heard one word on the radio, so havn`t a clue how things went. But was hoping for a 2 goal lead. Well done to the players, PB & medics for getting us this far.
just been on to Histon site and they are saying tickets are selling well... 1000! At that rate and with tonights result, we may match them in number.
buster
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Post by petef on May 1, 2009 22:09:00 GMT
Considering what was at stake for both sides tonight the match was played in an excelent spirit. Very competetive but I cannot remeber one single nasty moment in the entire match credit to both sides for that after what I had witnessed betweem Stevenage and Cambridge the night before. In all truth we played more like the away side - perhaps a master stroke from the manager and I reckon if we had gone at it gung ho we could have easily caught a cold. There was none of the cavelier "attack at all costs" and leave yourselves wide open which was evident in last seasons play offs No this was a far more considered and inteligent aproach and and it payed off handsomly. Histon certainly had good legs and came close to scoring without realy creating a clear cut chance and if Toddy and his back line play as they did tonight on Monday we can start thinking of booking our Wembley seats . Just one more big effort needed on Monday and it wont be easy they have nothing to lose and are a very useful side particularly on there own patch.
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Post by Dave on May 1, 2009 22:09:01 GMT
buster, I hope you can catch some highlights as they should show how well we played tonight, Histon did look dangerous on set pieces and had a few chances to score, but a mixture of some poor finishing and good defending keep them out.
They could have got one back near the end a header that just went over, its only a job half done but on what I saw tonight we can go to Histon with real confidence of getting a second win or a draw as that is all we need.
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Post by petergodfrey on May 1, 2009 22:09:15 GMT
Watched it in the pub near Blackburn, with no sound so didn't get atmosphere but thought it was a really gritty performance from the Gulls. Certainly didn't think we dominated early on and the corner count suggests that but ALL the squad worked their socks off. In fact I think that has been a feature of recent good peformances e.g. Kettering, Burton, tonight i.e. the refusal to let other teams play and get anything easy. Can't really single anyone out as they all deserve praise but you have to say..Sills..what a man, with that injury, putting himself about, putting his head in etc. One thing I'm sure of and which gives me confidence is that this team WON'T consider the tie over.
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Post by Swanny on May 1, 2009 22:17:54 GMT
Great performance tonight and a fully deserved 2 goal lead to take back to Histon. Sponsors MOTM Mansell. As I predicted earlier in this thread, crowd 3,737 that fell short of 4,000, about 100 from Histon occupying the old Grandstand and enclosure. However with Torquay fans occupying the away end it made for a great atmosphere. A throw back to the 70's when Torquay fans went in the Babbacombe end. The chanting was excellent around all 4 sides with the help of a decent drummer in the away end. In fact shortly after Torquay made it 2-0, the "yellow army" chants were quite deafening.
As for the match you felt Torquay had that extra bit of quality. I thought Torquay mixed it really well. As usual we were our usual threat from long throws and corners etc. but we also at times played it really well on the deck with pace. There was some lovely interchanging of passes and Danny Stevens, like against Burton, used his pace and skill to good effect on the left wing. My abiding memory of tonight's match was our magnificent team spirit with all the players clearly giving every thing they had. Some of our tackles flying in had to be seen to be believed. We did not allow Histon much all night and there were really courageous performances from everyone, so much did we want it.
Histon, as expected, were always a threat from set-pieces throughout the whole game and they totalled a massive corner count of 13 to our 5. There was a real hairy moment in the second half when Poke got beaten, but Todd somehow cleared it off the line. Histon did not create much from open play and that's where Torquay were far superior.
Our first goal following a long throw on the left was threaded through to Wroe, who shot powerfully (albeit deflected of a defender) past the keeper. Sills (or should I say Zorro) was unlucky earlier when a bicycle kick was heading for goal until accidentially cleared by our own Robertson. Stevens had a decent run on goal and screwed the ball just wide.
The second half a similiar story, Torquay playing the better football but Histon always a threat from corners. Robertson was unlucky when his header crashed against the crossbar. Sills header from a Mansell cross sealed the vital 2 goal lead. Stevens had a decent effort well saved. Torquay defended bravely with some last ditch defending at times, none more so than Mansell. Christie replaced Sturrock late on.
A fine, strong performance with good quality football at times. The team rose to the tense occasion of the play-offs and deserved the 2-0 score-line. It's looking good, but another strong performance will be needed in the second leg.
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Post by Dave on May 1, 2009 22:18:21 GMT
Yes we should not forget the mask Sills had to wear tonight, looked like some stage prop from the Phantom Of the Opera, Like Peter said he was fearless tonight and showed bravery and courage going in to try and win his battles with the Histon defenders.
While I would agree we were hemmed in a bit a the start of the fist half and had to defend a number of corners, we played the better football in the first half, Histon so often just hitting long hopeful balls,
Toward the end of the second half Histon played some good football on the ground, but you felt that if they had got a goal back they would not have deserved on the balance of the whole game.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2009 22:40:48 GMT
With five minutes to go somebody turned to me and said what a poor game it had been - a "comedy of errors". Right, I see. Some folk are hard to please, aren't they? As has already been implied, as good a game as you could expect to see at this level and a great advert for the league. Smashing atmosphere, well-refereed and some good old-fashioned challenges into the bargain. An enthralling game for any neutral present and and an even better one from the Torquay United perspective. Excellent. you have to ask if Histon deserve to be a league club with such poor support. I'm not sure to what extent anybody deserves anything in football other than getting their just desserts on the pitch. It's a meritocracy so, if Histon ever win promotion, they deserve their place in the Football League on that basis alone. That, of course, is totally different to saying that Histon's place at a higher level is sustainable. I don't believe that is the case but - up to now - somebody there seems to have found the meaning of life and a fair few magic potions to boot. Pound-for-pound you could argue Histon's rise is one of the most remarkable things to happen in English football in recent years. I guess it has to be put down to finance, shrewdness, faith and long-term planning. It may continue for a while yet or - perhaps - end overnight. How will history record these seasons? A local comparison is to imagine Buckland Athletic doing the same over the next ten years. How would we feel about that? The Histon story must be a truly odd one if you're a Cambridge United supporter: when does the cuddly little local team doing well become an awkward upstart which gets beneath your feet? I'm using Buckland as an example in the contemporary footballing sense but a closer parallel, in geographical and population terms, is to say that Histon is to Cambridge what Marldon or Kingskerswell is to Torbay. Just imagine if Kingskerswell FC had always punched just above its weight by playing in the Western League - as had Histon in Eastern Counties football - and someone very local to the community (possibly a double-glazing magnate from somewhere like Coffinswell) had invested heavily in the club rather than getting involved at Plainmoor. He appoints a couple of ex-TUFC figures - Paul Compton, Wes Saunders perhaps? - and Kingskerswell go up the leagues to the Conference. What gates would they be getting? Would people be "supporting" them - in the full meaning of the word - or merely popping along to see a decent game? Either way, I doubt if the away support at Barrow would be up to much!
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Post by merse on May 2, 2009 7:08:01 GMT
With five minutes to go somebody turned to me and said what a poor game it had been - a "comedy of errors". Right, I see. Some folk are hard to please, aren't they? As has already been implied, as good a game as you could expect to see at this level. Hard to please? I despair of such idiots I really do and heard the very same thing coming out of the game at Stevenage the other day. I think these "sages" are trying to vainly cling on to a "we're too good to be non league" mentality whereas I would prefer to acknowledge that at it's best the BSP is far more competitive and demanding than League 2 as several of our recent superb games show. The two performances against Blackpool and Coventry of the Championship prove also just what levels of performance and technical expression exist at OUR club................expression that can only be made more apparent against opposition who are prepared to "take us on" in a football sense and to that end I was pleasantly surprised at Histon's "polishing of the rough edges" from the Histon of last season. Yes, they STILL play for the maximum return of restarts they can extract from a game..................and statistically it's hard to argue against that approach. Even football playing, free flowing Stevenage got a better scoring return from restarts against Cambridge the night before than they did from open play and remember too OUR second goal last night was the direct result of a restart (long throw) and it is this consideration I was trying in vain to counter in Dave's "football the way it is meant to be played" stance earlier in the season. Nobody loves to watch constructive and expansive passing side any more than I do but I do like to see a purpose of intent from it rather than some sides "possession as long as it's possession" mantra. I happened to be living in the Dagenham area for the season they lost out to Yeovil for the Conference title and had watched the Daggers mid week quite a bit before that when they were doing so well and I would say quite categorically that THIS squad of Paul Buckle's is better than Garry Hill's at D&R and every bit as good as Garry Johnson's at Yeovil, which in my mind is the finest I have ever seen at this level and maybe matched only by Martin O'Neill's Wycombe Wanderers of the time of their elevation into the Football League and Barry Fry's legendary Barnet (nothing Tin Pot about them then!) side that swept up also. That's why I get so angry at the constant sniping and mis informed criticism of OUR manager from people who really haven't any experience of football aty this level nor any appreciation of just what is needed to first of all build foundations and then a platform BEFORE attempting to move onwards and upwards. Part of this of course involves evolving the squad and that inevitably upsets certain supporters who get far too emotionally attached to certain players and their worth to the club. There's nothing wrong in maximising use of a player by a manager until such time as the manager feels the player has outlived his worth to the squad and that might because of attitude, discipline, fitness or ability. The best example I can draw on would be Lee Phillips................a fine component of the squad as we played at the start of last season, but as his performance for Cambridge the other night portrayed; NOT the sort of player one would now wish to select over a technician like Blair Sturrock in the current more constructive and measured style that we utilise today. I thought last night's game and the one the night before reached far higher levels of technical expression and therefore entertainment than some of the fraught and foul ridden displays of panic I have witnessed in the play offs over two decades now and now that everybody in the game (fans included) appears to have "calmed down" over such a method of deciding the last remaining promotion place; fine entertainment for the fans also.
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Post by chelstongull on May 2, 2009 7:47:30 GMT
Half-time and we are leading 2 nil.
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Post by ohtobeatplainmoor on May 2, 2009 8:05:34 GMT
I thought we "mixed it up" well last night Merse - we were tough at the back and played it long when we needed to but showed some real class in spreading the play, making space, changing the pace of the move. The technical excellence of Sturrock in terms of his ball control and his awareness was fantastic last night - the control that he showed when he took a long pass was appreciated by the whole crowd. The improvement in the squad is clear to see - even if we don't make it back to the league I firmly believe that we have seen further incremental advancements.
I thought Histon were very good as well - not attractive to watch but extremely effective and they have some decent players - Midson and Mitchel-King would be welcome signings for most clubs at this level. They were a different class to the team we stuffed before Christmas and credit to their keeper who came-in and produced a creditible display in the absence of Naisbitt.
Last night's performance was everything that the either play-off game for us last season was not. I don't expect to see a "swagger" - I expected to see focus, 100% commitment, high energy and fluidity - I saw all of that last night - typified by the tackle that the technically excellent and always improving Wayne Carlise at the end with the block tackle he made as Histon desperately tried to reduce the arrears with the clock running-out. Last season we were dead on our feet and the win at Exeter wasn't representative of a very dogged but tired performance. There just seems to be a different force pushing the team forward.
Plenty of hard work to do and the game is very much in the balance - Bucks needs no reminding of that given the "failure" 16 year ago as we went to John Beck's team at Deepdale with a 2-0 lead and were hamstrung by a shocking referee (Joe Worrall still needs shooting for that) and spent much of the game on the ropes. He also has tasted success with Colchester and is a year wiser than last season. For anyone to suggest that we dispense with him if we lose-out in the play-offs and start again with someone else is simply ridiculous.
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Post by chrish on May 2, 2009 8:10:13 GMT
With five minutes to go somebody turned to me and said what a poor game it had been - a "comedy of errors". Right, I see. Some folk are hard to please, aren't they? As has already been implied, as good a game as you could expect to see at this level. Hard to please? I despair of such idiots I really do and heard the very same thing coming out of the game at Stevenage the other day. I think these "sages" are trying to vainly cling on to a "we're too good to be non league" mentality whereas I would prefer to acknowledge that at it's best the BSP is far more competitive and demanding than League 2 as several of our recent superb games show. The two performances against Blackpool and Coventry of the Championship prove also just what levels of performance and technical expression exist at OUR club................expression that can only be made more apparent against opposition who are prepared to "take us on" in a football sense and to that end I was pleasantly surprised at Histon's "polishing of the rough edges" from the Histon of last season. Yes, they STILL play for the maximum return of restarts they can extract from a game..................and statistically it's hard to argue against that approach. Even football playing, free flowing Stevenage got a better scoring return from restarts against Cambridge the night before than they did from open play and remember too OUR second goal last night was the direct result of a restart (long throw) and it is this consideration I was trying in vain to counter in Dave's "football the way it is meant to be played" stance earlier in the season. Nobody loves to watch constructive and expansive passing side any more than I do but I do like to see a purpose of intent from it rather than some sides "possession as long as it's possession" mantra. I happened to be living in the Dagenham area for the season they lost out to Yeovil for the Conference title and had watched the Daggers mid week quite a bit before that when they were doing so well and I would say quite categorically that THIS squad of Paul Buckle's is better than Garry Hill's at D&R and every bit as good as Garry Johnson's at Yeovil, which in my mind is the finest I have ever seen at this level and maybe matched only by Martin O'Neill's Wycombe Wanderers of the time of their elevation into the Football League and Barry Fry's legendary Barnet (nothing Tin Pot about them then!) side that swept up also. That's why I get so angry at the constant sniping and mis informed criticism of OUR manager from people who really haven't any experience of football aty this level nor any appreciation of just what is needed to first of all build foundations and then a platform BEFORE attempting to move onwards and upwards. Part of this of course involves evolving the squad and that inevitably upsets certain supporters who get far too emotionally attached to certain players and their worth to the club. There's nothing wrong in maximising use of a player by a manager until such time as the manager feels the player has outlived his worth to the squad and that might because of attitude, discipline, fitness or ability. The best example I can draw on would be Lee Phillips................a fine component of the squad as we played at the start of last season, but as his performance for Cambridge the other night portrayed; NOT the sort of player one would now wish to select over a technician like Blair Sturrock in the current more constructive and measured style that we utilise today. I thought last night's game and the one the night before reached far higher levels of technical expression and therefore entertainment than some of the fraught and foul ridden displays of panic I have witnessed in the play offs over two decades now and now that everybody in the game (fans included) appears to have "calmed down" over such a method of deciding the last remaining promotion place; fine entertainment for the fans also. I thought I detected in the midst of a excellence performance a new level of hunger and resilliance. When people like Wayne Carlisle steam into meaty challenges you know that the effort or heart of our players can be questionned. I can't fault one player on last nights showing. Todd after his shaky first 20 minutes against Burton has just come into good form. Stevens has freshened up the left flank and is giving us a consistent cutting edge. We now have incisive pace down one flank and very clever link up play down the right. You have to stay that the conditions favoured Histons chip and charge tactics but we dealt with that pretty well and when the ball was on the deck we looked a different class. There was a 10 minute spell in the second half when Histon pressed right up the field and exerted considerable pressure but we had a couple of decent counter attacks and then they retreated back and gave us a bit more time to play the ball out rather than just clear it. I think 2-0 was about right. Both Robertson and Sturrock hit the post with varying degrees of ferocity. They had chances as well but we deserved that second goal.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2009 8:11:23 GMT
typified by the tackle that the technically excellent and always improving Wayne Carlise at the end with the block tackle he made as Histon desperately tried to reduce the arrears with the clock running-out. Indeed. If people didn't appreciate Wayne Carlisle last night - and I could still hear a few failing to do so - they never bloody will!
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