Mark L
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Post by Mark L on May 14, 2009 12:22:29 GMT
I must say before I begin with this thread I was actually an admirer of Steve Woods and felt he was always a useful member of our squad with a good experienced head. The way he left the club was somewhat disappointing for me but I have to accept that I'm not party to what happens behind closed doors and sometimes things happen in any business which make someone's position untenable.
... however, I'm more than concerned that someone who would not have won the player of the season award DID win it due to the petulance of some supporters who were trying to air a protest. The award in my eyes is to reward a player who has given great service to the club by providing either great commitment (during the bad times) or showed a great degree of skill and productivity (during the better times). I personally feel that, from what I heard from fellow supporters during the season, Steve Woods was far from being that man. Indeed I actually got verbal abuse from a fellow supporter for airing my support for him when we played away at Woking this season.
I'm pleased for Steve but I'm also disappointed for other players who have shone this season and for supporters who voted with the spirit of the award in mind.
What do you lot think?
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Post by mike on May 14, 2009 12:49:00 GMT
I must say before I begin with this thread I was actually an admirer of Steve Woods and felt he was always a useful member of our squad with a good experienced head. The way he left the club was somewhat disappointing for me but I have to accept that I'm not party to what happens behind closed doors and sometimes things happen in any business which make someone's position untenable. ... however, I'm more than concerned that someone who would not have won the player of the season award DID win it due to the petulance of some supporters who were trying to air a protest. The award in my eyes is to reward a player who has given great service to the club by providing either great commitment (during the bad times) or showed a great degree of skill and productivity (during the better times). I personally feel that, from what I heard from fellow supporters during the season, Steve Woods was far from being that man. Indeed I actually got verbal abuse from a fellow supporter for airing my support for him when we played away at Woking this season. I'm pleased for Steve but I'm also disappointed for other players who have shone this season and for supporters who voted with the spirit of the award in mind. What do you lot think? agree totally Mark |
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Post by merse on May 14, 2009 14:15:24 GMT
I'm more than concerned that someone who would not have won the player of the season award DID win it due to the petulance of some supporters who were trying to air a protest. The award in my eyes is to reward a player who has given great service to the club by providing either great commitment (during the bad times) or showed a great degree of skill and productivity (during the better times). I personally feel that, from what I heard from fellow supporters during the season, Steve Woods was far from being that man. What do you lot think?  I agree with you Mark, this vote was akin to a victory for the Monster Raving Loony Party in a General Election! |
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Post by aussie on May 14, 2009 17:01:13 GMT
I can`t argue with the first 3 posts but I bet someone does!
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Post by khilllegend on May 14, 2009 17:17:40 GMT
i'm in total agreement with all the posts so far mmnnn wonder who will moan!  ? |
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Post by mattgulls on May 14, 2009 17:25:35 GMT
I also totally agree, very well put Mark.
Maybe we should make a special award for whoever nets the winner for us at wembley....
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Post by Dave on May 14, 2009 18:21:52 GMT
Being honest I feel the whole player of the season awards this year has been a waste of time and I’m not very happy with the whole affair.
I said on the Steve Woods thread that he should only get votes if fans truly believed he was our best player this season. We all know that he would not have won it, had he not left under a cloud and I also fully supported the reasons why the presentation did not happen at the match it should have.
Winning that game was the most important thing and it was clear the club and more importantly Bucks, might not want Woods to be presented the award out on the pitch in front of many of the fans who would have voted for him.
At the end of the day he did win the supporters vote and no matter what anyone may feel about the way he left or the reasons he did, we should not forget he was at the club for eight seasons.
I believe for that reason alone he deserved better than what he got on the Legends night. Yes there was a big cheer when he was announced as the winner, but it was Hayden Jones who read it out and Kevin Hill who presented it to him.
Where was anybody from the club? Why was it left to the TUST to have to do it? For me this really was not good enough and sorry but in my view the club let itself down and it should have been big enough to forget Woods departure and do the right thing and give the fans player of the season, the award in the proper manner.
It’s a shame that eight years loyal service seems to mean nothing due to one fall out with the manager, so glad I was never good enough to be a footballer.
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Post by lambethgull on May 14, 2009 23:01:34 GMT
Completely agree with you Mark. Herd stupidity was behind Steve Woods being voted player of the season, and nothing else.
Unless Dave and others know the the FULL story behind Woods' departure, and are prepared to spill the beans, I’m not really sure how anyone thinks they are in a position to be commenting on the matter of how the 'award' (for what is was worth) was presented.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2009 23:27:30 GMT
An extraordinary result & I am very very surprised.
Although I am of the opinion that Steve Woods performances this season means that he fully deserved to win the award I was sure that a sufficient number of 'Bucklites' would deliberately not vote for him & thereby deny him the award. I suspected the vote would be used rather as a means of showing solidarity with the Manager rather than actually acknowledging the best player.
Happily it would appear that didn't happen in sufficient numbers to deny Steve the prize he so richly deserved.
I had hoped that there had been a sufficient number of weeks for everyone to get all the anti Steve Woods sniping out of their systems in advance, so that by the time the result was announced we could confine ourselves to congratulating the winner.
Should we win on Sunday I will congratulate Paul Buckle on the achievement rather than use the occasion to point out that we would probably have gone up 12 months earlier had it not been for some of his eccentric decision making.
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Post by merse on May 15, 2009 2:33:34 GMT
An extraordinary result & I am very very surprised. Are you a speech writer for Robert Mugabe?  |
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Post by lambethgull on May 15, 2009 6:43:44 GMT
Should we win on Sunday I will congratulate Paul Buckle on the achievement That'll mean a lot to him, I'm sure. |
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Post by aussie on May 15, 2009 7:18:37 GMT
There is no anti Steve Woods brigade, just an anti Buckle one.
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Post by jimd on May 15, 2009 9:00:21 GMT
It's a fans vote for player of the year.
More fans voted for Steve woods than voted for any other player, therefore he fully deserved his award.
There is no conspiracy theory just sour grapes from people who didn't vote for Woods.
Even if it was a protest vote against the way Woods was got rid of, so what? It is what the majority of fans who voted wanted so is fully justified.
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Mark L
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Post by Mark L on May 15, 2009 9:02:21 GMT
I suspected the vote would be used rather as a means of showing solidarity with the Manager rather than actually acknowledging the best player. Clearly you feel Steve Woods was the best player and voted for him and that's fine with me. I don't think for a second there was a vote for Paul insinuated by voting for other players, rather, people have differing views. I voted for Zorro Sills because I felt he was our most consistent performer, showed desire to play beyond the call of duty, displayed a high level of footballing intelligence and has a handy knack of putting the ball in the net. There was no Paul Buckle sentiment there. Although he'd have won my 'TUFC manager of the season award'... I know, I'm so biased! |
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Post by chelstongull on May 15, 2009 9:07:26 GMT
Time to put the Player of the Year award behind us and concentrate on Sunday's big game.
I hear the season ticket sales are doing well and nearing 1000 sold - well done to the club.
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