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Post by merse on Apr 6, 2009 17:17:34 GMT
Steve Whitton played for Birmingham, although his start came at Coventry...don't think he ever played for us and went on to have a really successful career with Ipswich and Colchester, who he also managed.  I'd be surprised if it was him but the Whitton I'm talking about should appear in the match programme for the "Beat The Weather" friendly with Birmingham City I believe or possibly the friendly with Man Utd, and I'm fairly certain that the game he DID play for us he grabbed a couple of goals. Looks like I got "Steve Kidd" mixed up with someone else.......................the older I get eh?  |
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Post by merse on Apr 6, 2009 17:39:30 GMT
Got it......................Steve WINN, not Whitton! Is it senility or alzheimers? 
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Post by romfordkev on Apr 6, 2009 18:13:32 GMT
Got it......................Steve WINN, not Whitton! Is it senility or alzheimers? Neither Merse.....just your usual rambling and talking bollocks, I think!!  |
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Post by merse on Apr 6, 2009 18:18:09 GMT
DRINK! ;D
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Post by jmgull on Apr 6, 2009 21:44:23 GMT
...I played against Steve Kidd a few times in the SDL. A huge great big brick shithouse of a centre half. Jon is right about the religious thing, he was playing for Christians in sport, although there was nothing at all christian about the fearful kicking he gave me . |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2009 20:24:19 GMT
Whereas some first-team careers amounted to no more than 10 minutes in a LDV tie, Steve Kidd did it in rather more style with a solitary appearance at Maine Road in a goalless draw:  It's amazing to think both Steve Kidd and Steve Cookson are now thirty-seven. I'm pretty sure Kidd spent many years playing at a lower level than he was capable although - like many another South Devon footballer of his generation - he had the obligatory spell at Taunton Town under Russell Musker. Jon is correct in saying that Steve Cookson was related to Dean Edwards - now manager of Hednesford Town (with Matt Elliott as his assistant) - and I'm pretty sure Cookson had a decent career in West Midlands non-league. Cookson played in a number of league games but others who only-played-in-cups include Jamie Patterson (from Paignton), Richard Gomm (currently playing for Clyst) and Adrian Tucker (goalkeeper sub against Enfield in the FA Cup). Then there was Ashley Keane who started an AutoVansPaint thingy against Northampton and was taken off after 24 minutes. I wasn't at the game so can't vouch for his ordinariness but it wasn't a good sign when - after the club had given us a lot of guff about him being an ex-Watford prospect who'd become a top college player in the United States - it emerged he'd been playing for Henley Town in the mighty Hellenic League. Later, as Keiran Keane, he managed a single subsitute appearance for Dundee. Google him and you'll find he's played just one or two games for a rather large number of clubs. Finally, a couple of players who actually appeared in the Football League for us: Martin Worthington - who became a rugby player, won a County Championship medal for Devon and played professionally in several countries - and current Dartmouth manager Jimmy Bennellick who is quite possibly the loudest gob***** in the SW Peninsula League (although he'd probably describe himself as "enthusiastic" and "committed"). |
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Post by aussie on Apr 9, 2009 19:09:50 GMT
I think it might be a good idea to archive all of this information and history you guys are dredging up, it`s bloody fascinating reading and should be kept some how for the younger ones to read and for future fans to enjoy a real insight into all things Yellow and Blue( or as they were before that Black and White). The History Thread or something maybe, or a special History And Legends topic section, what do you recon?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2009 22:38:55 GMT
Another football statue - Emlyn Hughes in his home town of Barrow at the opposite end of Holker Street from the football ground:   |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2009 8:41:45 GMT
I saw this one on Saturday. Who? where?  |
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Post by merse on Jul 19, 2009 9:21:25 GMT
I saw this one on Saturday. Who? where? That's the Ted Bates statue at St Marys, Southampton.......................whata pity he posed with his trouser waist band nearly up to his armpits!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2009 10:27:50 GMT
Ted Bates...that's the man! Player at Southampton between 1937 and 1953; manager from 1955 to 1973; thereafter associated with the club in various capacities until his death in 2003 making 66 years in total.
That would make him an almost exact contemporary of Eric Webber - Bates was the elder by 18 months - both as Southampton players (until 1951) and rival managers in Division 3(S) between 1955 and 1958. Indeed, looking at the records for 1955/56, I see Bates' and Webber's teams clashed over Christmas 1955. Aged just three weeks at the time, I wasn't quite ready for our 3-2 home Boxing Day win nor the 2-6 loss at The Dell the following day. We finished above Saints that season as we did, of course, in 1956/57 when a defeat at Southampton on 22 April proved costly to our promotion hopes.
I'm not sure what old Ted would make of Southampton now: a new manager; new owners....and back in the third tier with the prospect of a visit from Exeter City this Christmas. For his part, the tannoy announcer did his best to tell all that "it's an exciting time to be a Saints supporter!" Buy your season ticket now because the club has only been able to sell them for a few days since the deal went through...
In fact, there was well over 20,000 at St Mary's yesterday (paying a tenner each) for the visit of Ajax. Whilst such an occasion made it virtually impossible to assess Saints' chances in Lge 1, there didn't seem to be too much to catch the eye. You assume cash is now available, that Pardew knows his stuff and there's still time for wheeling and dealing which may allow for the arrival of more players like Graeme Murty.
From our perspective, Wayne Thomas played the first half but there was no sign of Michael Poke (and Kelvin Davis certainly appears to be the "main man" there at present). Ajax were easy 4-1 winners and a joy to watch. Not the force they were and, perhaps, now more of a breeding ground for Europe's bigger leagues. Nonetheless plenty of good young players including the Serbian Miralem Sulejmani, the Uruguayan Luis Suárez, the Belgian Toby Alderweireld and Dutch players such as Urby Emanuelson, Vurnon Anita and Siem de Jong. Given such an endorsement from me, I'm sure all will now sink without trace.....
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Post by merse on Jul 19, 2009 10:56:32 GMT
Ajax were easy 4-1 winners and a joy to watch. Not the force they were and, perhaps, now more of a breeding ground for Europe's bigger leagues. Nonetheless plenty of good young players including the Serbian Miralem Sulejmani, the Uruguayan Luis Suárez, the Belgian Toby Alderweireld and Dutch players such as Urby Emanuelson, Vurnon Anita and Siem de Jong. Given such an endorsement from me, I'm sure all will now sink without trace..... I wouldn't be so self injurious Barty. Ajax have been developing kids from 6 years old since the year dot and indeed I saw a group of Cruyff Academy youngsters in action just up the road from my home when they took part in the opening of the Cruyff Court in Hazelville Road N19 back in October on the occasion of the Arsenal and Dennis Bergkamp (he gifted £75,000 of his Testimonial money) funded joint venture. What spoke volumes of the differing priorities of the media and public towards youth development was that the event was covered live by Dutch Television whilst the only English media represented was the local paper and Arsenal's own press officers from Arsenal TV and the matchday magazine. Another example of differing attitudes and approach to the game in our two countries came when I refereed a match many years (nearly thirty) ago between a Liverton United team and The Continentals ~ the lads that Ospelgull mentioned some time ago. Although the Dutch boys were just your everyday Sunday footballer types, they all had a great first touch and intention to play the ball out rather than leather it. It's only in the past decade or so that we have tried to replicate the way places such as the Ajax Academy system and the French Centres of Excellence work with youngsters and in this area of North London there are now a plethora of Community Acadamies run by qualified and dedicated coaches who take lads from the local areas and immediately set to work developing two footedness, balance, touch and awareness. Is it like that in the Westcountry yet? I would love to hear that it is and I would also love to hear from someone on this site giving an insight into such practice. I still suspect there is a false reliance on size, height and stature amongst some youth set ups and an example of that was the FA Youth Cup Final (anyone watch it on Sky this year?) where the bigger and bulkier Liverpool Under 18's were run to near exhaustion by the superior passing and accuracy of possession football from the more technically advanced but generally smaller Arsenal team. |
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Post by merse on Jul 19, 2009 11:36:58 GMT
..........................in this area of North London there are now a plethora of Community Acadamies run by qualified and dedicated coaches who take lads from the local areas and immediately set to work developing two footedness, balance, touch and awareness. A good example of one such acadamy is to be found in googling the Pro Touch Soccer Academy and I was chatting to one of their coaches who was using an adjacent pitch yesterday morning from my son's game. Mind you, their under 15 squad all apeared to be 5' 10" or taller and the keeper was almost "Bevanesque" ! Worth reading up on if you need convincing just what importance some provincial football clubs attach to scouting the Inner City areas. |
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