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Post by Dave on Feb 26, 2009 18:03:58 GMT
As I write this I believe a Devon businessman has done a deal to take over and save Weymouth FC, the three man board at the club rejected an offer on the table from a nine man local consortium yesterday. It was made up of all local businessman who are claimed are all fans of the club. While I do not know who the Devon man is or what his plans are, if this is true then I for one will be happy for the fans and the real people who care about Weymouth FC.
It saddens me at times how football fans seem to want to forget their own clubs misfortunes and as soon as another club finds it has problems, wants to shoot them down and are happy to see a club lost forever. Weymouth FC has been well and truly shafted by two people who never cared about the club, but only saw it as a way to line their own pockets and when that did not happen, left the club to die with huge debts.
Roberts would have gone on and lost our club, have no fears about that and I really wonder how those who want to see Weymouth gone for good on here, would feel if other clubs and fans of those clubs just wanted to see TUFC dead forever. You can bet they would be saying its not the clubs fault or the fans fault and they would be leading a campaign to save TUFC, just like those who love and care about Weymouth have been doing.
I spoke with people in Weymouth and made my views known, they were that if the club could not put out a proper side, then maybe it should redraw from the league as playing just youth players would be no more than a farce and it would have been.
While other clubs can complain all they like as long as the players are all registered properly the league can do very little about it and Weymouth are holding trails tonight to try and get a better team put together and try and start to rebuilt the team along with the club.
All I'm saying is just have a heart here, think how we would feel and lets not be so quick to want to see a football team who's history has only been checkered for that last few years and then only because of who got their hands on it and give them the chance to try and turn the club around.
If you can't do that then you really won't be able to stand up and defend our own club, if ever we found ourselves in such a mess as we did when Roberts took over.
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Post by aussie on Feb 26, 2009 19:06:18 GMT
Dave read my previous posts about Weymouth and you will see I feel for them, I get the distinct impression your post is pretty much directed at Merse as it is he who has been calling loudest for Weymouth to fold. As I agree with some of what Merse has to say I can honestly say " I know the their fans feel"!
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Post by chelstongull on Feb 26, 2009 19:36:22 GMT
I feel for any true fan and the demise of their club.
However, some clubs don't seem to help themselves by getting players in on 'Billy Big Bollocks' wages on gates they know can't support them.
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Post by Dave on Feb 26, 2009 19:45:55 GMT
I feel for any true fan and the demise of their club. However, some clubs don't seem to help themselves by getting players in on 'Billy Big Bollocks' wages on gates they know can't support them. All because one owner tried to buy success as he thought he had done a deal to sell the ground to a supermarket and it fell through, not the fault of the club or its fans, just another Roberts type character I'm afraid. |
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Post by merse on Feb 26, 2009 19:57:55 GMT
All because one owner tried to buy success as he thought he had done a deal to sell the ground to a supermarket and it fell through, not the fault of the club or its fans, just another Roberts type character I'm afraid.  Dave you're talking rubbish......................Weymouth have had a history of financial problems for two decades at least! Only three years ago they went tits up and lost a load of players and their manager Garry Hill, can't you even remember that far back? I think some of your acquaintances are taking advantage of your naivety if they are telling you it is all down to Malcolm Curtis. Their trouble started when they moved from the Rec to the Wessex and that is roughly twenty years ago. |
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Post by Dave on Feb 26, 2009 20:38:34 GMT
Yes merse I can remember three years back thank you  thats when the supermarket pulled out of the deal and the then owner who had put his own money in, as he thought he would get it back and more when the supermarket bought the ground, then sold the players. Read this site merse, read why our club was sold to Dave Webb and you will then see that our own club has had times when it has had money problems, just you always seem the one who really has the memory problem, when it comes to TUFC. |
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Post by merse on Feb 26, 2009 21:08:57 GMT
All because one owner tried to buy success as he thought he had done a deal to sell the ground to a supermarket This is what you posted...................."All because one owner..........................." That person was Martyn Harrison, did he not take over from Ian Ridley who in turn succeeded Terry Bennett? The club was then over a quarter of a million in debt with not a hope in hell of covering it. The chairman who succeeded Harrison was Malcolm Curtis now being cast as the villain of the peace when all along the local people knew he was a property developer just as they know their problems are not just down to "one owner". Their plight has nothing to do with Torquay United, David Webb or whatever but YOU drag that into the equation in a sad little tit for tat. If you want to debate the debacle this football club has heaped upon the BSP and it's other members, fine. If you want to engage in infantile reference to "my memory of Torquay United" as you view it........................forget it! The simple effect has been lack of support from the local community preventing a proper base for professional football in the town |
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Post by Dave on Feb 26, 2009 21:30:47 GMT
What is sad is your constant need to be rude, the line you quoted was a reply to Phil, who stated getting players in on 'Billy Big Bollocks' wages on gates they know can't support them
You talk about Curtis and lets not forget you are in London shall we, maybe you should talk with people in Weymouth about Curtis and then you can come back and you may just know what you are talking about.
It is not some sad tit for tat merse, just some people have feelings for fellow football fans and some remember how this could have been our own club, caused by a man you supported until we got the blinkers off you.
In one post I said that football cubs now owe over 3 billion pounds between then, so there must be plenty of clubs in trouble, even our own club must be in the red. large loses caused by Roberts and last seasons small profit, this season we must have a higher wage bill and gates now well over a 1000 down.
As long as you are happy that if we hit the skids that we get the treatment you would like to see Weymouth get, then fine, if not then stop and get off your soapbox and try and find some sort off feeling for others.
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Post by stuartB on Feb 26, 2009 23:20:45 GMT
I really don't care about their financial ups and downs but what I do know is that we will ALL be pissed off if we are pipped to the playoffs on goal diference as our rivals fill their boots for the rest of the season against an inferior and unworthy opposition. Even if MB a Devon businessman saves them, they have no players as they have all left. It makes a joke out of the rest of the season  |
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Post by Rob on Feb 26, 2009 23:46:59 GMT
The simple effect has been lack of support from the local community preventing a proper base for professional football in the town With the Crowds reducing by the match, it's that last line which I worry might bite us on the arse in the future. Never mind looking back to the past. |
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Post by graygull on Feb 27, 2009 3:06:15 GMT
Boys boys, need your heads banging together if you persist in this squabble, lets have you just go off to your beds and wake up befoe the sun with Mr Happy faces, life is to short to bicker over things like that.
Thats better.
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Post by merse on Feb 27, 2009 3:37:21 GMT
What is sad is your constant need to be rude, the line you quoted was a reply to Phil, who stated getting players in on 'Billy Big Bollocks' wages on gates they know can't support them .......................and you answered - "All because ONE OWNER tried to buy success", which IS rubbish and if you read Ian Ridley's excellent book "Floodlit Dreams" (you can get it on amazon.com for a little over a fiver) you will be better educated to make informed comment on their current situation. Certainly better comment than "All because one owner tried to buy success" and then insinuate that the "one owner" was Martyn Harrison. Being blunt and describing rubbish as rubbish is NOT being rude it is being forthright! |
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Post by merse on Feb 27, 2009 3:40:43 GMT
The simple effect has been lack of support from the local community preventing a proper base for professional football in the town With the Crowds reducing by the match, it's that last line which I worry might bite us on the arse in the future. Never mind looking back to the past. Precisely the reason I made that comment Rob! |
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Post by merse on Feb 27, 2009 4:10:28 GMT
Dave read my previous posts about Weymouth and you will see I feel for them, I get the distinct impression your post is pretty much directed at Merse as it is he who has been calling loudest for Weymouth to fold. As I agree with some of what Merse has to say I can honestly say " I know the their fans feel"! I haven't called for them to fold, I have called for them to be expelled from the BSP. I have taken that stance for the very same reason's that Dave Thomas charters in the Herald Express yesterday, namely: they wilfully failed to fulfil a fixture and they then wilfully fulfilled a fixture using players of such a poor standard the game brought the competition into disrepute and rendered the integrity of the competition unsustainable. The difference is that when I tell it as it is, certain people get all dewy eyed and outraged, yet when those exact sentiments are repeated nationwide by professionals in the game and journalists of long standing; it is only I who is singled out as "wanting Weymouth to fold". I don't want Weymouth FC to fold, I want them thrown out of a competition they are making a farce of. If that happens to bring about the demise of the football club as we know it, that is the responsibility of those who run and profess to support it. I would say that many who do profess such support are not in fact supporting at all, but boycotting and complaining. I would also say that the town as a whole has failed to support in sufficient numbers for many years and thereby I veil a warning to those who support OUR club in my words. To those who do support....................fine and thankyou, but there are patently NOT enough of us as any sensible person would realise. There were not enough when David Webb and co got a foothold, there were not enough when Mike Bateson took control and there were not enough when he sold out. Now, surprise surprise; just one year after the current regime came in there are not enough once more....................... some areas (like South Dorset and South Devon) never change! |
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Post by Dave on Feb 27, 2009 7:15:31 GMT
Merse I'm fully aware Weymouths problems are not down to just one man, once again I will point out that Phil was on about how they were over paying players etc, this was to try and buy success. The line you keep wanting to quote was only in reference to the man who was over paying the players as he thought he had a deal to sell the ground. He therefore was paying this money out, based on the fact he believed he would get it back once he sold the ground. The sale did not happen and then he had to get rid of the high earners.One man and one answer to Phil. as that is what Phil was referring to and not anything that may have happened 20 years ago.
My opening post was one that was aimed at everyone and not you(starting to think a bit to much of ourself are we?) Aussie felt it was aimed at you, If I had wanted to aim it at anyone then I would have put their name in the post.
I have clearly stated that if they can only put out a youth team then they should not continue in this league, I did say the league would have a job to kick them out as all the players are properly registered.
No real surprise that you blame everything on the people of South Devon and Dorset,Its an old Bateson line, that if people do not go, they do not deserve a football club and any fool knows there are many reasons why the gates are falling at Plainmoor, but it is has nothing to do with who, or the type of people that are born here or move here, but then you know that anyway, but that will never stop you trying to make out people here are inferior to the likes who live in London.
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thats when the supermarket pulled out of the deal and the then owner who had put his own money in, as he thought he would get it back and more when the supermarket bought the ground, then sold the players.