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Post by daveshaw on Feb 13, 2009 10:09:39 GMT
If he goes there it's a massive snub to Buckle and Torquay. How hard did we try to get him? Or maybe he's as unconvinced about Buckle and our chances as i am. If he chooses them over us then serious questions need to be asked.  |
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Post by chelstongull on Feb 13, 2009 10:16:09 GMT
I think there are a lot of clubs chasing Beavon - unless we can offer big bucks I guess it could be location perhaps.
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Post by daveshaw on Feb 13, 2009 10:34:31 GMT
Rumour has it that we did offer him big bucks. Surely we could outbid the likes of Oxford with their problems. So, it's not a question of money.
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Post by ospelgull on Feb 13, 2009 11:01:14 GMT
I think he can do better than us or Oxford (a much bigger club if you compare the gates).
And he originates from that area.
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Post by eddyh on Feb 13, 2009 16:19:23 GMT
Just because Oxford have gone public on their desire to sign him and we haven't (assuming we do actually want him) is no indication that he would choose them over us - unless I've missed something? It's just another rather pathetic excuse to have a dig at the manager of our football club who in only his second season is once again in the promotion shake up.
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Post by merse on Feb 13, 2009 18:40:34 GMT
 That Beavon might have "rejected" our offer may be down to two factors...............one could be that as he is Thames Valley based and the general housing market being how it is he would be faced with negative equity on his home. The other might be that he reckons he can obtain a better deal for himself if and when he becomes a free agent subject to the notice he has served on his current club who are failing to pay him. If the former is the problem, then a move to Oxford would make sense for him....................just what he could be looking for in fact. If it is the second, then a nice signing on fee would go some way to compensating for Weymouth reneging on his wages for the past month. As I told you before Dave Shaw, there is a lot more to managing a football club than you will ever appreciate or have dreamed of.
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Post by davepougher on Feb 13, 2009 19:25:40 GMT
Or he could have just listened to what Phillips had to say.
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Post by merse on Feb 13, 2009 20:42:23 GMT
Or he could have just listened to what Phillips had to say. Well yes, he might well have an "advisory panel" consisting of Phillips, Rayner, Sausage Geezer  , or any other misfit or crank you may care to put forward. ;D |
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Post by daveshaw on Feb 14, 2009 5:42:31 GMT
As I told you before Dave Shaw, there is a lot more to managing a football club than you will ever appreciate or have dreamed of.
And, of course, you would know all about that wouldn't you merse?
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Post by merse on Feb 14, 2009 7:58:27 GMT
As I told you before Dave Shaw, there is a lot more to managing a football club than you will ever appreciate or have dreamed of. And, of course, you would know all about that wouldn't you merse? Well I think with the eight or nine years I spent working in the game and discussing matters with managers coaches and administrators have given me some insight into the overall aspect of just what Paul Buckle's whole job entails, yes I do know a good bit about it Dave. The public, (and how could they?) never know the background to what might cause a seemingly straightforward signing to hit difficulties. They rarely know the private background to just what might be causing a player to perform poorly for a period of time. They are not party to the detail of transfer that might the seemingly obvious one between clubs A and B suddenly manifest itself into one between club A and club C. I have known players move, seek moves, decline moves for a whole host of private matters. I have known players who have engineered moves for all sorts of ulterior motives and I have known players (and managers) take enormous criticism and abuse from the public who had not an iota of knowledge of particular personal difficulties they were trying to carry on doing their jobs under. In short, what goes on behind an office door, on a training ground or in the home of a prospective player is absolutely nothing to do with you or I as supporters and therefore it is not fair to insinuate that because a particular "signing" does not happen that it is an aspersion upon the manager. |
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Post by Budleigh on Feb 14, 2009 8:52:06 GMT
Don't want to say much here but Beavon not coming to our place was absolutely NOTHING to do with our club, our manager and Chief Exec or any other aspect of Torquay United. He was given every chance to come but maybe he had another agenda? Perhaps he knew what the situation was at his own club and wanted to move on his terms when the s**t hit the fan? Maybe he came to look around Torbay and just didn't like the area? Nothing to do with ambition, maybe it's the player himself who couldn't see the wider picture... who wanted something different, not necessarily better, for himself.
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Post by daveshaw on Feb 14, 2009 9:33:25 GMT
Thanks for clearing that up Bud.
My "aspersion" was that choosing Oxford over us given the financial situations of the two clubs would be a massive slap in the face to both Torquay and Buckle. Therefore it wouldn't be based on money.
Merse you really are wasted driving a bus/taxi/banana boat whatever.
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Post by Dave on Feb 14, 2009 9:58:56 GMT
I really laugh at times when some player or other does not sign for a club he has been in talks with and then someone comes out and makes claims that the player has snubbed the manager and club, by not signing.
Players make up their own minds one would hope and base their decisions on all sorts of reasons and while some moves by some players may seem strange to some, the player must feel the move is best for him.
Beavon has been scoring a few goals lately but before that has been in a dry spell and was not delivering what was expected of him by many, I do know he was offered a good wage to come here, but I'm not to saddened he has chosen not too.
Bucks made it clear when the window was about to open, that any players coming in would have to improve the squad and also be able to fit in well with the whole team and the spirit it enjoys between then all.I do not know what sort of attitude Beavon has, or how his team mates view him, but I would only want a player to join our club, who really wanted too and one who felt he could do a good job for the club.
We have had far too many who came just to get a wage, or wanted to sign only until a better offer came his way, if Beavon had any doubts for any reasons then I would prefer we did not sign him, some players who have points to prove etc can often be the best ones to get, as they will put so much more effort into their game and play their part in helping the team to win games.
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Post by Budleigh on Feb 14, 2009 11:18:42 GMT
No probs Dave S... ps, how does one get a negative 'poster of the week' score?!
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Post by Dave on Feb 14, 2009 11:29:58 GMT
No probs Dave S... ps, how does one get a negative 'poster of the week' score?! Easy, I take out the code I put in that has allowed me to changed the word karma to best poster of the week and change exalt and smite to just one option of vote.  I fear by doing so, one may end up with a big minus score.  |
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