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Post by merse on Feb 12, 2009 16:42:49 GMT
It seems the proposal by which Colin Hill and Lee Power would have purchased Weymouth Football Club is now dead in the water and they (WFC) have convened a meeting tonight to decide where (if anywhere) they go from here. Apparently they will only proceed if they can buy the surrounding land to the ground, and the owner (former WFC Chairman Malcolm Curtis) isn't prepared to sell. Last Monday the players all issued formal notice to the club meaning that they would be free agents in fourteen days from the date of the notice, and would then be at liberty to seek alternative paid employment within the game from February 23rd. So it seems history is repeating itself from the time when (was it?) three years ago, Exeter City were major beneficiaries being able to take on Lee Phillips, Steve Tulley, Lee Elam and Paul Buckle. So which players do YOU think Bucks could make offers to so that OUR club can gain some recompense for all the messing around inflicted on us last week? Should Weymouth go completely tits up and fold it will cost us the three points already gained from Boxing Day but interestingly only cost runaway Burton the single point they managed to get from their one game with the Terras.....................so another flaming injustice we have to suffer because of this hopelessly out of it's depth set up.
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Post by Dave on Feb 12, 2009 17:19:34 GMT
I had a talk with someone at Weymouth this morning at 7.30am, it seems they are very hopeful that the club will be saved and the meeting tonight will get the results required.
If the club can not be saved you can forget about signing any Weymouth players, I have it on good authority that should they fold the players due to league rules are not permitted to sign for any other BSP club during the remainder of the season, they can only join a club in a lower league such as Dorchester.
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Post by merse on Feb 12, 2009 17:50:24 GMT
If the club can not be saved you can forget about signing any Weymouth players, I have it on good authority that should they fold the players due to league rules are not permitted to sign for any other BSP club during the remainder of the season, they can only join a club in a lower league such as Dorchester. Well let's hope they don't fold then but the players exercise their right, then we gain by obtaining a good player or two on the cheap and keep the three points into the bargain. The players will get what they deserve..................a decent employer and we get something back for all the messing around and disrespect last week.
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Post by crispygull on Feb 12, 2009 18:38:46 GMT
So it seems history is repeating itself from the time when (was it?) three years ago, Exeter City were major beneficiaries being able to take on Lee Phillips, Steve Tulley, Lee Elam and Paul Buckle. So which players do YOU think Bucks could make offers to so that OUR club can gain some recompense for all the messing around inflicted on us last week? I believe that the three players signed were actually Lee Elam, Steve Tully and Richard Logan - two of whom are now fairly regular starters in their League Two side. Lee Phillips and Paul Buckle were actually already at Exeter, when these three lads were picked up "on the cheap" by them from Weymouth, due to the financial difficulties they were experiencing at the time - nothing much changes it seems! In fact, my understanding is that Paul Buckle, who was Asst Mgr at the time, was largely instrumental in persuading his former playing colleagues to join him at the time and that most Exeter fans credit their signing to him rather than Paul Tisdale. As to whether there are any of their players that we would want -well Stuart Beavon is the obvious one, but little or no chance there I'm afraid. Personally I think Ryan Williams, a "natural" left winger would be a decent addition but there are other decent players there too including young defender Scott Doe, winger James Coutts and dare I say it, ex Gulls Chris McPhee, Lee Phillips and Stephen Read. Like Dave R says though, I dont think any club at this level could actually sign them if WFC were to fold - but presumably if the club were to be saved but were in need of making drastic cutbacks on the playing side then it could open up the opportunity of picking some of their players up on loan for the rest of the season, in order for them to keep afloat.
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Post by merse on Feb 12, 2009 19:13:04 GMT
I believe that the three players signed were actually Lee Elam, Steve Tully and Richard Logan - As to whether there are any of their players that we would want -well Stuart Beavon is the obvious one, but little or no chance there I'm afraid. Personally I think Ryan Williams, a "natural" left winger would be a decent addition but there are other decent players there too including young defender Scott Doe, winger James Coutts and dare I say it, ex Gulls Chris McPhee, Lee Phillips and Stephen Read. Like Dave R says though, I dont think any club at this level could actually sign them if WFC were to fold - but presumably if the club were to be saved but were in need of making drastic cutbacks on the playing side then it could open up the opportunity of picking some of their players up on loan for the rest of the season, in order for them to keep afloat. Of course you're right about the players City signed; I bow to your greater knowledge - and better memory! Let's be realistic here, Beavon and possibly Williams would be practical; but we have already opted for Christie now so maybe the little winger might be the only target, even though he looks like he's had a dose of rickets he CAN do the business, certainly more so than Danny Stevens anyhow; whilst Muzzy and Carlisle are struggling to get their crosses in. As for Read, McPhee and Phillips..................do me a favour Now they've served their notice, there's nothing Weymouth can do if those players opt to terminate their contracts, so let's hope the Terras survive in some form or the other or else the player's registrations will become the property of the BSP and THAT is probably where the "not for other BSP Clubs Rule" comes from.
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Post by Jon on Feb 12, 2009 23:00:28 GMT
I feel so sorry for the true fans of Weymouth who have seen their club royally shafted - a club with a fine history and tradition and of course many historic links with our club.
I hope and pray that they can pull something out of the fire to keep semi-pro football in Weymouth - Southern League level at least.
We all know that only a couple of years ago we were very very nearly in the same boat.
Is this forum open for guests to read at the moment or not? Normally, I hope that it is as there is so much interesting stuff to read. But at present, I almost hope that it isn't. I hate to think what any Weymouth fan would make of Merse constantly revelling in Weymouth's misery and gloating. I hope that it would be obvious that he is a lone voice in this and most people have the decency to feel the misery of fellow football fans and understand what they are going through. TUFC fans are not an arrogant, patronising, self-important bunch - we just have one or two.
Of course he who is now revelling and gloating would, if he were a Weymouth fan, have been the biggest Curtis fan out. He would have shouted down anyone questioning the wisdom of "ground development" as a country bumpkin. Curtis would probably have offered to build him a light railway!
Good luck Weymouth! Nearly every TUFC supporter wishes you well!
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Post by Dave on Feb 12, 2009 23:23:38 GMT
Jon a good post and I share you views 100% I felt the pain today of a true Weymouth fan and I have tried to get the message across too Merse that Weymouth the club, is not some rubbish bad apple club, but is made up of fans just like us.
I do dispare at times with Merse and his attitudes, he really needs to remember who he once gave his full support and that nearly cost us our own club and maybe if that had have happened then Merse would now be looking at the plight of the Weymouth fans in a more human way that he is at this time.
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Post by merse on Feb 13, 2009 4:01:49 GMT
I feel so sorry for the true fans of Weymouth who have seen their club royally shafted - a club with a fine history and tradition and of course many historic links with our club. I hope and pray that they can pull something out of the fire to keep semi-pro football in Weymouth - Southern League level at least. Is this forum open for guests to read at the moment or not? Normally, I hope that it is as there is so much interesting stuff to read. But at present, I almost hope that it isn't. I hate to think what any Weymouth fan would make of Merse constantly revelling in Weymouth's misery and gloating. I have no problem being a "lone voice" Jon, no problem at all. I've no wish to see any of the 150 ish Terras fans who made the mighty ninety mile trip to show their support at a time of deep crisis and one that cries out for total commitment from ALL the fans; lose their club to apathy. It must be comforting indeed to the players and manager who haven't been paid for over a month that so many took the trouble to show their support. It must really have concentrated the minds of the prospective buyers that such a large and committed following were prepared to prove their loyalty........................it's a bloody good job the team aren't some rubbish outfit who can't play then isn't it, heaven only knows what that would do to the numbers following! When Weymouth FC go back to being a properly run club of repute and a club from an area that truly cares about it such as the folk of Aldershot and Wimbledon FC once did, they'll get my whole hearted support, but not mock tears over a situation that has dragged on for years despite numerous exhortations from previous regimes at the club for the public of the area to get off their arses and provide some practical support that have repeatedly fallen on deaf ears. It'll be interesting to learn just how many turned up at the ground last night and just how many have actually put their money where their mouths are, for unless there has been a dramatic improvement, the club is dying from apathy; and for the 150 and the professionals I will feel truly sorry. As former Chairman Martin Harrison said: "There's an awful lot of people in Weymouth who claim to have this club at heart, but not an awful lot of them are prepared to put their money where their mouths are".....................and don't forget, neither Colin Hill nor Lee Power are from Weymouth!
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Post by Dave on Feb 13, 2009 16:46:05 GMT
From the BBC website
The owners of Weymouth Football Club have revealed plans to issue a million shares to help save the club after the collapse of takeover talks this week.
Around 400 supporters turned out at the Wessex Stadium to hear Thursday night's announcement.
Chief executive Gary Calder told BBC Solent: "The talking's got to stop, if they don't we'll have to make a tough decision early next week."
The players have not been paid in 2009 and the club owes around £300,000.
A million shares, worth fifty pence each, will now be sold in an effort to raise funds.
If the move is unsuccessful the club could face administration or liquidation.
I really hope this plan will work, but selling one million shares even at 50p is not going to be an easy task. Most who buy any shares will know its money they will never see again, but if I was a fan I know I would be happy to buy as many as I could afford.
Just think if every person who lives in Weymouth just bought five pounds worth, then they would be well on their way to selling that million, but would the whole town rally around to save its football club?. Well merse will say a big NO and state its because its a westcounty club, but I'm sure there will be some people who are not football fans who will buy some shares and do their part to help Weymouth FC.
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Post by khilllegend on Feb 13, 2009 17:11:29 GMT
i just rang weymouth and as of today they have sold 850 shares on the first day!. The forms will be on from tommorrow to download or you can ring the club over the phone and buy them 01305 785558 good luck to them
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Post by chrish on Feb 13, 2009 17:26:09 GMT
i just rang weymouth and as of today they have sold 850 shares on the first day!. The forms will be on from tommorrow to download or you can ring the club over the phone and buy them 01305 785558 good luck to them 999,150 to go then. ;D
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Post by khilllegend on Feb 13, 2009 17:55:53 GMT
lol what a cruel world it is but funny enough when i spoke to the nice chap at weymouth, I mentioned hilly and he said dorchester are worse of than them, they are just being honest!
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Post by aussie on Feb 15, 2009 18:50:28 GMT
How the hell can you not feel sorry for thier fans? It`s not thier fault or is it?
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Post by jond on Feb 21, 2009 10:26:59 GMT
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Post by ohtobeatplainmoor on Feb 21, 2009 10:45:52 GMT
Apparently most of the players will be unavailable this afternoon. It is a shocking thing to happen, I always felt that there would have been a bit of "brinksmanship" by the prospective purchasers of the club but surely if a deal was going to be doneit would have been done by now.
Their steady performance against us the other week was a credit to those players although it isn't the first time that we have been rolled-over by a team that hadn't been paid for months!) and Ryan Williams stood-out as mking an excellent performance. I would welcome him with open arms at the club, although realistically we need to move a player or two on if it is to accomodate him.
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