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Post by plainmoorpete on Apr 29, 2021 20:04:35 GMT
In fairness to Flyinggull that is how I saw things unfold on the kiddies. I remember a poster starting a thread with a statement along the lines of "I'm not a racist but I reserve the right to abuse any player taking the knee..." , it was bizarre. Flyinggull challenged him on this, rightly in my opinion, and ran into trouble with the aforementioned knuckle headed admin.
When I myself brought up the matter of the bitchute crap with the person who is supposed to run the site I got the impression he didn't know what was going on. That impression was confirmed when Louis eventually took the posts down saying he hadn't realised how bad it was and that the site was actually being black listed by some ISPs because of its content. I actually now believe that the aforementioned knuckle head actually administers the site in louis' absence and uses it push his own agenda.
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Post by flyinggull on Apr 29, 2021 20:13:01 GMT
In fairness to Flyinggull that is how I saw things unfold on the kiddies. I remember a poster starting a thread with a statement along the lines of "I'm not a racist but I reserve the right to abuse any player taking the knee..." , it was bizarre. Flyinggull challenged him on this, rightly in my opinion, and ran into trouble with the aforementioned knuckle headed admin. When I myself brought up the matter of the bitchute crap with the person who is supposed to run the site I got the impression he didn't know what was going on. That impression was confirmed when Louis eventually took the posts down saying he hadn't realised how bad it was and that the site was actually being black listed by some ISPs because of its content. I actually now believe that the aforementioned knuckle head actually administers the site in louis' absence and uses it push his own agenda. Thank you for your post this is exactly as i see it which is a shame. |
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Post by stefano on Apr 30, 2021 5:20:52 GMT
Thank you for your clarification FG. I have not been into the dot com site for ages. I used to enjoy having a daily visit around all 3 forums as they were all different in style and brought something different to the table.
I stopped looking at that site because every other post was one poster banging on and on and on and on about his user name being changed (or other posters replying to that), and another poster daily putting up totally irresponsible videos containing lies about the world wide pandemic.
Torquay United hardly got a mention so I decided that I no longer had any reason to look at that site.
I was therefore somewhat suspicious when one of those posters suddenly appeared on this site particularly when I noted that anything he posted on he always had to have the last word, and then managed to get his posts blocked by register who himself is blocked by several posters on this site. Every exchange has to come to an end at some stage and there is nothing at all wrong in a poster thinking that he will not reply as he has already said everything he is thinking so has nothing further to add.
Plainmoorpete's contribution to the discussion was most useful as over time on any forum you get to know whose opinions are worth taking note of, which ones can be taken with a pinch of salt, and which ones can be ignored. Plainmoorpete falls in the former camp. I was particularly interested that the dot com site has now removed the coronavirus thread. That happened after I had lost the will to live and stopped looking at that forum, so I may now tentatively dip my toe in the water and have another look.
It does look from what has been posted that FG has the same view as me on covid-19 issues, so maybe if we chat about that I would be able to have the last word. 😉
Mind you FG apart from annoying reg you seem to have upset stewart now, the forum senior statesman who is a mild mannered man with memories of watching our great teams of the 50's!
Having decided on a post I always walk around the block 3 times taking deep breaths whilst deciding on balance whether my thoughts are worth posting. I normally decide they aren't! 😉
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Post by flyinggull on Apr 30, 2021 5:50:38 GMT
Thank you for your clarification FG. I have not been into the dot com site for ages. I used to enjoy having a daily visit around all 3 forums as they were all different in style and brought something different to the table. I stopped looking at that site because every other post was one poster banging on and on and on and on about his user name being changed (or other posters replying to that), and another poster daily putting up totally irresponsible videos containing lies about the world wide pandemic. Torquay United hardly got a mention so I decided that I no longer had any reason to look at that site. I was therefore somewhat suspicious when one of those posters suddenly appeared on this site particularly when I noted that anything he posted on he always had to have the last word, and then managed to get his posts blocked by register who himself is blocked by several posters on this site. Every exchange has to come to an end at some stage and there is nothing at all wrong in a poster thinking that he will not reply as he has already said everything he is thinking so has nothing further to add. Plainmoorpete's contribution to the discussion was most useful as over time on any forum you get to know whose opinions are worth taking note of, which ones can be taken with a pinch of salt, and which ones can be ignored. Plainmoorpete falls in the former camp. I was particularly interested that the dot com site has now removed the coronavirus thread. That happened after I had lost the will to live and stopped looking at that forum, so I may now tentatively dip my toe in the water and have another look. It does look from what has been posted that FG has the same view as me on covid-19 issues, so maybe if we chat about that I would be able to have the last word. 😉 Mind you FG apart from annoying reg you seem to have upset stewart now, the forum senior statesman who is a mild mannered man with memories of watching our great teams of the 50's! Having decided on a post I always walk around the block 3 times taking deep breaths whilst deciding on balance whether my thoughts are worth posting. I normally decide they aren't! 😉 I also used to enjoy the dot com site (among others) until the agenda of those administrating it seemed to come into play. It also became very dull as a lot of people (judging by how busy the site is on a match day) took the same veiw and moved elsewhere. For the record i dont believe i should and do have to have the final word but if there are further questions to be asked then why shouldnt they be asked? Are Torquay top of the league ? Yes thats simple. However something like, is the vaccine roll a brexit benefit? The reply could well be (and ive seen this elsewhere) 'yes as it was developed in the UK, after we left in 2020 and look at the slow roll out in the EU'. This prompts the right to question a few thibgs about this view such as 'why has malta got a better roll out rate then the UK but are still in the EU' and 'the head of the MRHA that oversea drug production in the UK confirms that the vaccine production etc was done under EU rules and also at a time when the UK was following the EU rules due to it being in the transitional period' so how is it a brexit benefit?. My point being that im not fussed about having the last word but curious about things. If i have offended Stewart, the i would recommend that he blocks me rather then suggesting im a 12 year old. As for reg, strange how when challenged about issues he blocks people. But then again he did claim to block me then moan that i was posting and takes issues with my apprent use of gay porn which says it all. And finally i do have the right to reply and will use  |
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Post by rjdgull on Apr 30, 2021 6:05:06 GMT
Sometimes when views or opinions are firmly entrenched, it’s generally better to agree to disagree. 😀
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Post by stefano on Apr 30, 2021 6:41:49 GMT
And finally i do have the right to reply and will use Yes of course. You had the right to reply on dot com as well until they banned you. |
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Post by stefano on Apr 30, 2021 6:51:05 GMT
Sometimes when views or opinions are firmly entrenched, it’s generally better to agree to disagree. 😀 Wise words....although there are people who would disagree 😉 |
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Post by plainmoorpete on Apr 30, 2021 10:20:17 GMT
Sometimes when views or opinions are firmly entrenched, it’s generally better to agree to disagree. 😀 Very true. I can and do talk with friends who have different political views from myself and we always end up amicably agreeing to disagree. I think the problem on social media is that we are largely talking to strangers and the tendency is to get defensive in such a situation thus the opportunity for open and informative debate is lost. I've noticed that the trend now is for people to post links as proof of their arguments even though those links often come from biased and unbalanced sources. To be honest I don't know why football forums have so called plop side sections as they tend to frequented by the same few individuals trying to push their own agendas on everyone (not so here I might hasten to add, really enjoy Stefano and Stewart's contributions to any debate). Hence the bitchute controversy in the kiddies which was the work of two people producing about a 140 pages of bilge, or the the politics thread on BTPIR which makes the Morning Star look like positively conservative by comparison. |
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Post by flyinggull on Apr 30, 2021 10:23:49 GMT
Sometimes when views or opinions are firmly entrenched, it’s generally better to agree to disagree. 😀 It is and im happy to agree to disagree but there has to be a level of understanding why there is that disagreement. Take the queen. There are plenty that want to get rid of her and the monarchy and plenty that want to keep them. But what drives the veiw of one or the other can only be found out by asking questions and going back and forth. I do believe that people that dont agree on issues can still be civil and even friends as its the issue not the person that is the disgreement |
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Post by flyinggull on Apr 30, 2021 10:25:20 GMT
And finally i do have the right to reply and will use Yes of course. You had the right to reply on dot com as well until they banned you. Even then they banned (and changed user names and passwords) me before i could reply so no that isnt true. |
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Post by stefano on Apr 30, 2021 11:19:40 GMT
.... before i could reply so no that isnt true. You do seem to think that nothing is true unless you say it! Of course what I said was you did have the right to reply until you were banned which was true. You cannot then say (but you did!) that you did not have the right to reply because you got banned so what I said wasn't true. Of course it was! You had the right of reply until you got banned. Certainly changing user names had nothing to do with it as you did reply after reply after reply after reply about the change of user names. It was that and of course worse the other poster with daily dangerous and irresponsible lies about the world wide pandemic that saw me exit stage left. Not been back to have a look yet as to whether it has improved. It is too much fun on here! I am sure that is not the last I will hear of the matter either.  |
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Post by stefano on Apr 30, 2021 11:28:09 GMT
Could I make a polite request FG? When you quote posts could you please edit the post/s you are quoting so that only the bit that you are going to comment on is shown rather than the full post? It makes the forum a lot tidier and is a lot easier to follow for the reader. I know quoting the full post is the way it is commonly done on the dot com site and it is a most frustrating aspect for somebody just browsing. Sometimes a poster will quote 3 quite long posts (where none have edited either) and then by the time you scroll to the bottom the poster who is quoting the others puts "I agree". I appreciate of course that would never be you! . It is not though the way it is done on here. Please see my last post on this thread as an example (although on this occasion I could have actually quoted the whole post as it was a very short one). It does make it a lot easier for the reader if just the small bit of a post you are quoting is shown which relates directly to the point you are going to make, so it would be greatly appreciated if you could do that. Thanks...... |
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Post by plainmoorpete on Apr 30, 2021 12:36:37 GMT
Could I make a polite request FG? When you quote posts could you please edit the post/s you are quoting so that only the bit that you are going to comment on is shown rather than the full post? It makes the forum a lot tidier and is a lot easier to follow for the reader. He should trying posting on BTPIR, people have actually been banned on that site for not editing the quotes. I do agree that it makes it easier to see the posters point is though. Actually this site has a very good tool (if that's the right term) for allowing people to say they like a post by clicking the thumbs up icon. Big improvement over the kiddies where people quote the entire post them stick a "good posting" smiley at the bottom of it. |
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Post by stefano on Apr 30, 2021 12:54:08 GMT
Yes agree plainmoorpete although I am a bit slow as have only just spotted the 'like' facility so will start using it now! 👍
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Post by flyinggull on Apr 30, 2021 13:48:10 GMT
Stefano
Thank you for pointing this out i wasnt aware that this was possible or how to do it or if indeed it would be useful.
So in fear of having the last word again.
Thank you it is appreciated
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