rjdgull
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Post by rjdgull on Jan 3, 2017 17:27:09 GMT
The fans are the customers without which the club cannot function but emotive loyalty means that there is not always another product to switch to. Based on previous projects there are very real concerns that the new board will not be able or willing to deliver on their stated vision (the carrot) although that remains to be seen. However, as the council will play a key role in any land deal on a number of levels then the whole community will have a democratic right to assess and come to a conclusion whether to support or object to what is on the table.
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Post by plainmoorpete on Jan 3, 2017 17:32:07 GMT
Merser is now saying that GI have infiltrated the 3 forums and are seeking to "divide" - IMO it is this character Merser who is divisive! Unbelievable...... Given your virulent attacks on a particular Individual who is a long time TUFC supporter and the fact that you only registered a month ago I had assumed that you were in fact a GI / Masters plant.
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Post by crispygull on Jan 3, 2017 19:08:07 GMT
Given your virulent attacks on a particular Individual who is a long time TUFC supporter and the fact that you only registered a month ago I had assumed that you were in fact a GI / Masters plant. Interesting point, Pete, and not one that had crossed my mind. You may very well be right. No one could accuse Merse of not caring about the club. Mine too! It seems that "Fishtown Gull's" only contributions to this forum since he joined last month are to make some silly early observations about Norman Smurthwaite (aka the "Smurf") being "in town" and trying to link him to buying the club. The one where he said he (Smurthwaite) was seen in town was in fact easily dismissed as nonsense ( I didn't bother at the time) because Mr Smurthwaite was actually at Vale Park watching his team Port Vale play at the very same time he was supposed to be dining out in Torbay! Unless, of course, Fishtown Gull is confusing Mr Smurthwaite with Bill Phillips (ex Chairman of TUFC) who Merse once confused him with? What do you reckon, Bill? The rest of his "contributions" have been personal attacks on Alan Merson, for no apparent reason, other than perhaps he is none too keen on his open and forthright approach. Like others of said, there is no one who could accuse Alan Merson (it's MERSON not MERSER by the way) of not caring about TUFC. He would be the first to admit I am sure that he is not everyone's cup of tea but his lifelong support of the club and the large chunk of his life that he has devoted to supporting it, working for it and giving his opinions on it - more recently by spending hours of his time on a daily basis running his own forum - surely cannot be brought into question by anyone ?
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Post by aj on Jan 3, 2017 20:15:24 GMT
well there goes the chairman to autsralia.you won"t see him for a while.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2017 20:26:24 GMT
Interesting point, Pete, and not one that had crossed my mind. You may very well be right. No one could accuse Merse of not caring about the club. Mine too! It seems that "Fishtown Gull's" only contributions to this forum since he joined last month are to make some silly early observations about Norman Smurthwaite (aka the "Smurf") being "in town" and trying to link him to buying the club. The one where he said he (Smurthwaite) was seen in town was in fact easily dismissed as nonsense ( I didn't bother at the time) because Mr Smurthwaite was actually at Vale Park watching his team Port Vale play at the very same time he was supposed to be dining out in Torbay! Unless, of course, Fishtown Gull is confusing Mr Smurthwaite with Bill Phillips (ex Chairman of TUFC) who Merse once confused him with? What do you reckon, Bill? The rest of his "contributions" have been personal attacks on Alan Merson, for no apparent reason, other than perhaps he is none too keen on his open and forthright approach. Like others of said, there is no one who could accuse Alan Merson (it's MERSON not MERSER by the way) of not caring about TUFC. He would be the first to admit I am sure that he is not everyone's cup of tea but his lifelong support of the club and the large chunk of his life that he has devoted to supporting it, working for it and giving his opinions on it - more recently by spending hours of his time on a daily basis running his own forum - surely cannot be brought into question by anyone ? I think you are muddying the waters, i am just a fan with an opinion just like you and Alan Merton. If you read his posts on that site you will pick up on the fact that his predictions change daily - odd for someone supposedly in the know i thought. No, i dont know him but all i have to go on are his somewhat pejorative comments. You do not know me either so nothing personal. I am Faye Dunne a humble supporter from Brixham of 20 years. Did not even know forums existed until my partner (an Argyle fan) showed me.
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Post by hector on Jan 3, 2017 20:47:43 GMT
Merser is now saying that GI have infiltrated the 3 forums and are seeking to "divide" - IMO it is this character Merser who is divisive! Unbelievable...... Given your virulent attacks on a particular Individual who is a long time TUFC supporter and the fact that you only registered a month ago I had assumed that you were in fact a GI / Masters plant. This crossed my mind as well.
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Post by crispygull on Jan 3, 2017 20:59:46 GMT
Mine too! It seems that "Fishtown Gull's" only contributions to this forum since he joined last month are to make some silly early observations about Norman Smurthwaite (aka the "Smurf") being "in town" and trying to link him to buying the club. The one where he said he (Smurthwaite) was seen in town was in fact easily dismissed as nonsense ( I didn't bother at the time) because Mr Smurthwaite was actually at Vale Park watching his team Port Vale play at the very same time he was supposed to be dining out in Torbay! Unless, of course, Fishtown Gull is confusing Mr Smurthwaite with Bill Phillips (ex Chairman of TUFC) who Merse once confused him with? What do you reckon, Bill? The rest of his "contributions" have been personal attacks on Alan Merson, for no apparent reason, other than perhaps he is none too keen on his open and forthright approach. Like others of said, there is no one who could accuse Alan Merson (it's MERSON not MERSER by the way) of not caring about TUFC. He would be the first to admit I am sure that he is not everyone's cup of tea but his lifelong support of the club and the large chunk of his life that he has devoted to supporting it, working for it and giving his opinions on it - more recently by spending hours of his time on a daily basis running his own forum - surely cannot be brought into question by anyone ? I think you are muddying the waters, i am just a fan with an opinion just like you and Alan Merton. If you read his posts on that site you will pick up on the fact that his predictions change daily - odd for someone supposedly in the know i thought. No, i dont know him but all i have to go on are his somewhat pejorative comments. You do not know me either so nothing personal. I am Faye Dunne a humble supporter from Brixham of 20 years. Did not even know forums existed until my partner (an Argyle fan) showed me. Faye OK, fair enough, it just seems a little strange that you seemingly know who Norman Smurthwaite is and what he looks like Or, more correctly you thought you knew what he looked like!!!!! Likewise, if you are going to spend time posting on forums then it might be an idea to be a little bit more constructive in what you post rather than just "having a go" at someone you clearly don't know and have never met .... on a forum that he (Alan Merson) never posts on, I mean what's the point and what is your beef with him? His predictions may change daily but if you have been following what he posts on that forum then you should know that a lot of what he has posted has turned out to be correct! He was, I believe, the first to suggest that the GI/Masters takeover was a "done deal" ....even before the Fans Forum, where it was categorically stated that the previous owners "were not even talking to GI" and the takeover of the club by them by the end of January "wouldn't come to that" - well, given how things have turned out, it's up to you who and what you choose to believe! By the way, he was also (to the best of my knowledge) the first to predict the sale of Nathan Blissett to Plymouth Argyle and has also suggested that we may (nothing is ever certain in football transfers though!) be in for Shaun Harrad and Dan Butler. I guess only time will tell whether he is right on any or all of these ....but even if he isn't right on any of them, it's not to say that these things were just fabrication either.... often the case in football that things don't go to plan.
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Post by hector on Jan 3, 2017 21:05:45 GMT
So someone who started supporting the club in the 1990s - therefore, probably not that old, has no idea that fans forums exist? Even though they are often referred to even by David Thomas in the Herald Express.
Likely.
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Post by plainmoorpete on Jan 3, 2017 21:16:07 GMT
Mine too! It seems that "Fishtown Gull's" only contributions to this forum since he joined last month are to make some silly early observations about Norman Smurthwaite (aka the "Smurf") being "in town" and trying to link him to buying the club. The one where he said he (Smurthwaite) was seen in town was in fact easily dismissed as nonsense ( I didn't bother at the time) because Mr Smurthwaite was actually at Vale Park watching his team Port Vale play at the very same time he was supposed to be dining out in Torbay! Unless, of course, Fishtown Gull is confusing Mr Smurthwaite with Bill Phillips (ex Chairman of TUFC) who Merse once confused him with? What do you reckon, Bill? The rest of his "contributions" have been personal attacks on Alan Merson, for no apparent reason, other than perhaps he is none too keen on his open and forthright approach. Like others of said, there is no one who could accuse Alan Merson (it's MERSON not MERSER by the way) of not caring about TUFC. He would be the first to admit I am sure that he is not everyone's cup of tea but his lifelong support of the club and the large chunk of his life that he has devoted to supporting it, working for it and giving his opinions on it - more recently by spending hours of his time on a daily basis running his own forum - surely cannot be brought into question by anyone ? I think you are muddying the waters, i am just a fan with an opinion just like you and Alan Merton. If you read his posts on that site you will pick up on the fact that his predictions change daily - odd for someone supposedly in the know i thought. No, i dont know him but all i have to go on are his somewhat pejorative comments. You do not know me either so nothing personal. I am Faye Dunne a humble supporter from Brixham of 20 years. Did not even know forums existed until my partner (an Argyle fan) showed me. If you have read Alan Merson's comments on BTPIR then you are registered on that forum, since that is the only way to access it. So why not challenge him on that forum rather than smearing him on here and possibly the other forum under a different name. If your name really is Faye, why did you register as male on this forum? I noticed you also tried to discredit the posts of Colin Authers by suggesting they were Merson's work. Now a lot of people think Authers is a complete tosser, but they also know on many an occasion his utterances have been very close to the truth. This leads me to suspect that your agenda is to discredit those people who are a thorn in the side of those running the club. If I have got all the above wrong consider this; we may now be entering the end game, the existence of TUFC is at stake, now is NOT the time to go around denigrating other supporters. We all want the same thing, a football club to support, and Alan Merson is as loyal as any supporter out there.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2017 21:47:13 GMT
Haha please forgive me i am a male but am known as Faye - my partner is Alex - also male! Who on earth is Colin Authors? - never heard of him! How Foldoral....... Mr Merton might be a loyal supporter but in my mind he is divisive....i am all for one and one for all - it is the only way to defeat the antagonists.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2017 21:50:00 GMT
So someone who started supporting the club in the 1990s - therefore, probably not that old, has no idea that fans forums exist? Even though they are often referred to even by David Thomas in the Herald Express. Likely. Not likely Hector - FACT - and i never read newspapers - to much bias and spin for me....... do you read The Daily Mail?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2017 21:56:10 GMT
I think you are muddying the waters, i am just a fan with an opinion just like you and Alan Merton. If you read his posts on that site you will pick up on the fact that his predictions change daily - odd for someone supposedly in the know i thought. No, i dont know him but all i have to go on are his somewhat pejorative comments. You do not know me either so nothing personal. I am Faye Dunne a humble supporter from Brixham of 20 years. Did not even know forums existed until my partner (an Argyle fan) showed me. Faye OK, fair enough, it just seems a little strange that you seemingly know who Norman Smurthwaite is and what he looks like Or, more correctly you thought you knew what he looked like!!!!! Likewise, if you are going to spend time posting on forums then it might be an idea to be a little bit more constructive in what you post rather than just "having a go" at someone you clearly don't know and have never met .... on a forum that he (Alan Merson) never posts on, I mean what's the point and what is your beef with him? His predictions may change daily but if you have been following what he posts on that forum then you should know that a lot of what he has posted has turned out to be correct! He was, I believe, the first to suggest that the GI/Masters takeover was a "done deal" ....even before the Fans Forum, where it was categorically stated that the previous owners "were not even talking to GI" and the takeover of the club by them by the end of January "wouldn't come to that" - well, given how things have turned out, it's up to you who and what you choose to believe! By the way, he was also (to the best of my knowledge) the first to predict the sale of Nathan Blissett to Plymouth Argyle and has also suggested that we may (nothing is ever certain in football transfers though!) be in for Shaun Harrad and Dan Butler. I guess only time will tell whether he is right on any or all of these ....but even if he isn't right on any of them, it's not to say that these things were just fabrication either.... often the case in football that things don't go to plan. Thank you Crispy - a very polite and constructive post! My partner Alex knows so much about footie, and his family are all connected to local teams in Torbay, including Buckland. It was he who told me to mention the "Smurf" - as it turns out he was misinformed or the plan changed.
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Post by plainmoorpete on Jan 3, 2017 21:56:19 GMT
Haha please forgive me i am a male but am known as Faye - my partner is Alex - also male. My mistake.
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Post by Rob on Jan 3, 2017 22:21:44 GMT
Coming back to the thread title, anyone fancy commenting on our new owners? Old and new posters both equally welcome.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2017 22:25:31 GMT
All i can say is - suspicious - deeply suspicious - the silence is deafening.
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