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Post by kingsgull on Jun 18, 2013 20:04:40 GMT
How wonderful it would be, as Sam asks, if there were programmes for these matches but I would not have thought any were printed, I do know there was a German magazine (no idea what it was called) that covered at least one of the games after the event, so not really a programme but probably the nearest to one.
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Post by gullone on Jun 18, 2013 21:20:32 GMT
Me sir, Me sir, if you discount the end of season May 1981 trip to play St. Agnes on the Scilly Isles then it has to be a jump forward to July 25th 1993 when the recently appointed Don O Riordan took a squad over to Dublin to play Cherry Orchard on the Sunday followed by a game against Bray Wanderers on the Monday. Over to you Jon...... Well I pitched that one outside the off stump hoping for a tickle and gullone nicks it to first slip and walks. Getting the Cornish question out of the way first - St Agnes is on the mainland isn't it? - I am, with apologies to Mebyon Kernow, counting Cornwall as part of England for this. So I can't accept St Agnes 6/5/81 or Home Park 15/8/67 or Penzance 27/7/68. St.Agnes is one of the scilly isles but you are right we must have visited the St. Agnes in north Cornwall. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2013 10:35:08 GMT
Marvellous press cuttings from the German tour of 1967. Wouldn't it be great if the club did something like that again? Or, as has been suggested, get Bayer Leverkusen over for a 50th anniversary bash at Plainmoor.
Can't say I was a fully-fledged Torquay supporter in those days. If truth be told I was probably most looking forward to our family trip to London which would include Fulham v Wolves and Spurs v West Ham. It was also that slightly different summer for me; the one between primary school and secondary school when you feel rather stateless and oddly free.
But I certainly remember following the German tour in the Herald Express and feeling it was all rather glamorous. And, if I'd been asked as an eleven-year-old, I'd have probably thought that the future would have featured further World Cup wins for England, interplanetary space travel, away trips to Bournemouth by hovercraft and Torquay United jetting off by Concorde to play friendlies against Santos, Real Madrid, Benfica and Estudiantes de La Plata.
It was not to be. But, hey, an August Saturday in Morecambe is still something to relish.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2013 10:58:28 GMT
Well I pitched that one outside the off stump hoping for a tickle and gullone nicks it to first slip and walks. Getting the Cornish question out of the way first - St Agnes is on the mainland isn't it?. St Agnes - on the mainland - is a well-established club which plays on a cliff top pitch just outside the village. It's a marvellous place to watch football and not unlike St Just where Torquay United once visited to play in a "Feast Day" fixture. St Agnes - the island - is very small and I can't remember seeing a football pitch when I visited. It does, however, have room for a tennis court. It's main football claim is that it was the childhood home of a bloke who has compiled non-league scores for newspapers and yearbooks for donkey's years. A keen groundhopper and distance runner to boot; interesting hobbies to develop after growing up in such a tiny, remote place. And he'd love to move back! Or was Cloughie on holiday there when Derby won the league? He was certainly on one of the isles but I'm not sure which one. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2013 17:06:01 GMT
The German Tour thread has been very interestig reading. The furst time i have read such detail so thanks Jon. And yes Mr Sayer Polls pass opened up to reveal the Western and Plymouth and District fixtures. Anyway, plenty of time for a resume of the 93/4 94/5 Irish tour with Don O Riordon and co eh Jon? Hint Hint ! I can cofirm that there were Torquay United fans present on the 1994 Irish tour and that programmes were issued for all three games. No idea about the 1993 version. A minute or two's research reveals there are still members of the Sayer-Poll family in South Devon. |
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Post by Jon on Aug 4, 2013 13:04:43 GMT
I see that Tony Boyce "joined the United party over the weekend from Italy where he is on holiday". Did he take the family with him or leave the boys eating pizza with their mum? I had the chance to ask Mark B yesterday. The whole family traveled home via Germany and took in the last two games of the tour. |
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Post by Jon on Mar 8, 2015 23:38:14 GMT
"Brown, of course, will be kicking the ball for the first time as a United player". That's as maybe, but Brown had already made his Torquay United debut. Anyone hazard a guess at where and when his debut occurred - and what was the opposing team? Anyone fancy another guess at this?  ? |
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Post by Jon on Mar 10, 2015 0:34:01 GMT
I went to a Dickie Bird benefit game at Paignton. This was against a Torquay United XI. I'm not sure if this was a one-off or whether there were several of these fixtures. Jon is asking if it was 1967 when, to follow his line of questioning, Ken Brown may have made his Torquay United "debut" on the cricket field rather than football pitch. I'd be surprised if I had the interest to go to such a game in 1967. I wasn't there with my parents so perhaps I went with a friend. I was thinking more of 1969 when, with my father ill, I was left to my own devices for much of the summer. Local press reports suggest Dickie Bird played for Paignton until 1968; his autobiography says 1969. It could have been possible. But I can remember Eric Burgess playing for the Torquay United XI and he left for Argyle in July 1968. Unless he came back as a "ringer" it's starting to look like 1967. That rather staggers me. The summer between primary school and secondary school. Really? Barty wins the prize. In other news, South Devon all out for 28. Is that a future Torquay United director alongside a future test match player for Kingskerwell?  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2015 14:19:18 GMT
I suspect it was that Herald Express preview which persuaded me to go to Queen's Park. I'd seen a couple of days of "proper" cricket before then; perhaps I was eager to see what this would bring.
I'd never heard of H.D.Bird and I only had the 1966 Playfair Cricket Annual to fall back upon when it came to players of the past. It was only when Dickie Bird became a test match umpire that the game took on a retrospective significance.
I don't remember any Black and White Minstrels. Not in costume anyway. I never much approved of them, even at that age. I'd like to think it was on ethical grounds. Actually it was because I considered them appallingly naff.
Derek Ufton, the Argyle manager, was a "proper" cricketer. He'd kept wicket for Kent for many seasons.
I wish I still had the scorecard to check the details. I kept it for a long time. Completed in pencil on the day; inked over in Biro when it showed signs of fading.
I'm not even sure I've watched cricket since at Queen's Park. Imagine what I have missed especially with regard to finesse behind the stumps.
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Post by stefano on Mar 10, 2015 15:39:45 GMT
I suspect it was that Herald Express preview which persuaded me to go to Queen's Park. I'd seen a couple of days of "proper" cricket before then; perhaps I was eager to see what this would bring. I'd never heard of H.D.Bird and I only had the 1966 Playfair Cricket Annual to fall back upon when it came to players of the past. It was only when Dickie Bird became a test match umpire that the game took on a retrospective significance. I don't remember any Black and White Minstrels. Not in costume anyway. I never much approved of them, even at that age. I'd like to think it was on ethical grounds. Actually it was because I considered them appallingly naff. Derek Ufton, the Argyle manager, was a "proper" cricketer. He'd kept wicket for Kent for many seasons. I wish I still had the scorecard to check the details. I kept it for a long time. Completed in pencil on the day; inked over in Biro when it showed signs of fading. I'm not even sure I've watched cricket since at Queen's Park. Imagine what I have missed especially with regard to finesse behind the stumps. I was there and can't remember much either! It certainly wouldn't have been the cricket that attracted me with or without Dickie Bird, but if Torquay United were there then I would be there too. That was of course in the days when a close season lasted about 8 months - or it certainly seemed to! - and of course we didn't have access to 24 hour news / internet forums / twatter etc, so any snippets of gossip that could be picked up at such events were most welcome. Hell it wasn't the Dark Ages but the only way to know how the team were doing away from home was to be there. I did many away trips but as a schoolboy at that time funds were limited, so many a trip was made to home Western League games eagerly awaiting the man who would hang up the half-time scores on the ABC scoreboard at the Babbacombe End about 20 minutes into the second half. I never really noticed that period of time end and the present one begin. Very strange. Although my teachers always said I didn't pay attention!  |
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Post by Jon on Sept 3, 2016 11:07:49 GMT
Strange to read a chunk of this thread shamelessly copied and pasted elsewhere.
Thread bumped for those who might be interested in the full story.
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Post by Jon on Oct 16, 2019 21:52:58 GMT
Have fixed the broken photobucket links on this thread.
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