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Post by Budleigh on Nov 27, 2008 21:20:50 GMT
No problems Dave... I was just trying to cut short any panic!!
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Post by Rob on Nov 27, 2008 22:03:52 GMT
With the strides TUST has made with disability and visual impairment facilities following their mandate to do so at last years AGM, I would hope -
1. that as many as possible renewed membership and made individual/business donations (with mutually beneficial arrangements with TUST being explored for businesses from Pie Shop to McDonalds) and;
2. that the membership give a mandate to support the Youth programme at the meeting after the Cambridge game.
Remember, one of TUST's first big donations, even before the consortium, was on Youth development, and it was something very much considered by potential members before TUST even became a legal entity.
The only caveat I would add would be if the Club felt able to confirm it was not an area of special need at present, highlighting, perhaps, other areas it would wish TUST to consider. In which case I would expect the TUST exec might not put the matter forward.
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Post by Dave on Nov 27, 2008 22:10:05 GMT
That does sound like a good way to help keep our youth set up running Rob, I was told that even the TUST are feeling the effects of the credit crunch and they were down on people renewing their membership, so how much they could help I do not really know, I do know how much the sponsorship was and it sure would need more members than the TUST has at this time.
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Post by Rob on Nov 27, 2008 22:30:49 GMT
6th December is a good opportunity to push for renewed membership, Dave.
If the Club are keen to get TUST moneys in for such projects, perhaps some of the bar/food "specials" takings after the game could be put in to the chosen projects pot, with relevant publicity in advance, also.
I know this isn't Sally Eagling's - and indeed Colin Lee's - remit which you opened on, but every little helps. When it comes to Kit and youth sponsorship, the Club did benefit from it rather falling in to their lap last time out.
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Post by Dave on Nov 27, 2008 22:40:16 GMT
I'm sure all those who joined last year Rob, would be pleased to see how the TUST has helped the club, with the money it raised.
It may be the case that some who did join last year are also not attending games this season and therefore one would think, may not renew this year. Lets hope that the meeting will see new people joining and maybe your ideas being put forward as well.
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Post by Jon on Nov 27, 2008 22:54:56 GMT
With the strides TUST has made with disability and visual impairment facilities following their mandate to do so at last years AGM, I would hope - 1. that as many as possible renewed membership and made individual/business donations (with mutually beneficial arrangements with TUST being explored for businesses from Pie Shop to McDonalds) and; 2. that the membership give a mandate to support the Youth programme at the meeting after the Cambridge game. Remember, one of TUST's first big donations, even before the consortium, was on Youth development, and it was something very much considered by potential members before TUST even became a legal entity. The only caveat I would add would be if the Club felt able to confirm it was not an area of special need at present, highlighting, perhaps, other areas it would wish TUST to consider. In which case I would expect the TUST exec might not put the matter forward. Are you coming down for the Cambridge game and the TUST AGM, Rob? It would be good to have your input if you could make it. |
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Post by Rob on Nov 27, 2008 23:00:27 GMT
Currently planning on it, Jon. Need to get someone interested in one of my "on-call" slots, but hopeful.
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Post by Jon on Nov 27, 2008 23:05:56 GMT
Currently planning on it, Jon. Need to get someone interested in one of my "on-call" slots, but hopeful. Good - hope to see you there! |
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Post by daveshaw on Nov 28, 2008 10:46:23 GMT
Do we know how much money we lost thro the sponsor spitting his dummy out and withdrawing funds. Can they lawfully do that or can we get the money owed?
I think that the FA Cup run is going to be vital to our season. We need a bit of luck in the game and the draw if we make it. Maybe we're due a slice of luck.......we'll see. Keeping my fingers crossed this weekend.
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Post by gandalfgull on Nov 28, 2008 11:09:12 GMT
Sally is good but unfortunatly not experienced enough in the area she works. Would it be beneficial or practical for anyone who supports the club to 'volunteer' to give one day a week to guide/advise/mentor her. Now I know this would never happen for any other business but I think football is a little different.
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Post by Dave on Nov 28, 2008 17:23:10 GMT
dave shaw, Sean did not spit his dummy out, but the the club did lose a fairly large sum, when he stopped sponsoring the youth team. I do not know how such deals are put together, I would not think a contract as such would have been signed.
The club statement said it was working to get money due etc paid, so maybe they could try and get the full amount paid, but it would surly have to go to court and I do not believe the club would go down that road, due to the reasons for the bust up in the first place.
I think the club has just written the money off and that is the reason they are looking to find a new sponsor and any other new commercial income.
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Post by Dave on Dec 1, 2008 17:52:06 GMT
Some have asked the question, can a sponsor just pull out of a sponsorship deal, one that you would imagine was signed on some type of contract. I do not really know how it works, but I did listen to a report on the radio today, that stated many company's recently, had pulled the plug on sponsorship deals they were involved with.
So there has to be an easy way out for any sponsor and If so many are now pulling their sponsorship, It will be even harder for our club to find any new ones.My points about Sally were only that she is not really trained in this field and therefore, may not be the best person to maximize sponsorship opportunities.
A proved person I agree would cost money, but I'm sure his or her wages could be based on results, much like any salesman, but I fear even the very best one, would find he might have to go hungry.
I fear that things will get much worse before they get better, Its OK for some to feel that our club won't get into any financial trouble, but the facts have to be faced and those are, we are not reaching the gates our squad etc costs were based on.
The one good thing is the club should not have to worry about money owed to it, unlike many other company's who's own livelihood depend on company's they trade with remaining in business. It only takes one or two company's to go down and fail and soon like a stack of dominoes, others come crashing down.
Today at 7.45am I called on a company in Dorset, only to find it had changed hands and later was to learn from my boss, the original company was bankrupt. owing to our company a large sum of money, yet this company was far bigger than ours.
So my boss at a time when work is getting harder to find, now has to suffer a big lose and with many very big national company's in trouble, who are customers of ours, you can't but help fear for the future.
Only last Friday I witnessed something that really shocked me, it happened in Okehampton at 8am. I called at one of our customers, this was a branch of a company, who must have one in nearly every town in the country.
I was talking to the manager, well he is like a mate really as I have known him for some years now. In walked two men in suits, closed the door and put up a sign in the window that said sorry this branch has now closed. It gave details of the nearest branch, that was open.
My mate the manager was shocked believe me, but then this is the way some large company's operate and have no thought for anyone, only profit. Yet the knock on effect is that we have now lost another customer and I really don't think it will be the last one, as the words I hear on the street, are others may fall.
It would be such a shame to see a company like I work for gone forever, but no matter what we do, or the service we give, it may come down to others company's failing and bringing us down as well.
Please tell me there is so much more to what I hear the reason for all the problems facing us all are. Is it just like Brown said on the J.Vine show? some people in the USA lent money to those who would never be able to pay it back. So hard to really understand how the whole world seems in free fall, just because of that.
The reduction in VAT will not have much effect, many will not spend as they fear for their own jobs and that could also mean those who play football or work for football clubs. When will it end and how will it end, I wish I knew but I hope it ends soon, before to many have to take the fall.
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