Just who should be held responsible?

I've refrained from commenting on our national team until i calmed down. Who's to blame? The spineles c#&ts who pulled on the shirt, that's who! Tired?? Don't make me laugh! I watched the game in Bangkok and the thais all said that england were lazy, and that about sums it up. Most of these show ponies don't know hard graft and never will. The only excercise these intellectual midgets ever really get is picking up their paychecks. There celebrity lifestyle removes them from the fans and it's just business to them and promoting their brand. They find themselves a trophy bimbo who is equally vapid and then believe all sychophants telling them how great they are and giving them egos way above their lowlife level. You only have to look at the behaviour of Terry, Cole, Lampard and the soon to be ungagged story on Gerrard as well as a host of others to form the conclusion that these people don't live in the real world. They think they can do what they like, pick up the money and go thro the motions. Not one true professional among them.

These people are scum, always have been always will be. Thay would be in gaol if they weren't footballers. Trailertrash with money and no brains.

So to answer the question, it's the players!

Anyway, here's a few jokes to cheer us up!

Does Capello remind you of someone??




Whats the difference between Cinderella and the England football team?

Cinderella wanted to get to the ball....

Osama bin Laden has just released a new TV message to prove he is still
alive. He said that the England Team performance on Saturday was completely
s**t. British intelligence have dismissed the claim, stating that the
message could have been recorded anytime in the last 44 years.

Robert Green - The only man to leave Africa with out catching anything .


In a statement from broadcasting house, all future England games will now
be shown on the gay porn channel. It is thought that 11 arsåholes being
regularly shafted is too explicit for regular TV.


I can't believe we only managed a draw against a s**t team we should easily
have beaten......I'm ashamed to call myself Algerian.


The England team went to visit an orphanage in South Africa this morning,
"its so good to put a smile on the faces of people with no hope, constantly
struggling, and facing the impossible" said Jamal Omboto, aged 6.


Fifa have released a statement saying the fan didn't break into the
dressing room after all, but was let in by Rob Green.


What's the difference between Rob Green's spill and BP's spill?
- Robert Green has got a cap for his.

Fabio Capello was wheeling his shopping trolley across the supermarket car
park when he noticed an old lady struggling with her bags of shopping. He
stopped and asked, "Can you manage dear?" To which the old lady replied,
"No way. You got yourself into this f*****g mess, don't ask me to sort it
out..."

The FA have launched an inquiry to find out how a fan found his way into
the dressing room. And another enquiry into how Aaron Lennon found his way
into the dressing room.



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John Terry

The big difference is that young German players get experience younger. Marko Marin who's now 21 and in the World Cup squad has already had 3 seasons under his belt at Borussia Moenchengladbach and Borussia Moenchengladbach II in three different divisions before he was transferred to Werder Bremen where he's played in over 30 games this season. He might get Thomas Mueller's starting place for the semi final. He's two footed, quick and skillful.

I think that the reserve teams playing in competitive leagues help the development of German players a lot. Thomas Mueller now 20 years old has been at Bayern Munich since he was 10! German academies seem to work.

At the moment, who in the UK is actually producing young English players good enough to warrant a starting place in a Premier League? I hope that the likes of Danny Welbeck, Ryan Shawcross, Adam Johnson (ssshhh he's got a left foot!) Kieron Gibbs, Jack Wilshire, Joe Hart, Jack Rodwell and Dan Gosling develop as we hope they do. I also hope that Fabio opts for youth now and dumps the likes of Terry, Gerrard, Lampard, Defoe, Heskey, Carragher (tell me again why he was in the World Cup 23, I'm still confused), Upson (dear god). I think players like Milner, Dawson, Huddlestone and Ashley Young should be included. I have my doubts about Ashley Young. At 24 years of age with his ability he should have more than 7 caps and he's one of the ones who's had first team experience from the start.

The problem is the Premiership as far as I'm concerned. The rewards are so huge and the amount of money circulating is so unbelievable that there's hardly any motivation to have the time and the patience to develop young English kids. I'm hoping that Steve McClaren might try to attract some younger English players to Wolfsburg in the future. Not many British let alone English players have played top flight football in Germany. The only ones that spring to mind are Kevin Keegan at HSV, Tony Woodcock at Cologne, Paul Lambert at Borussia Dortmund, Mark Hughes and Alan McNally at Bayern Munich. We've had no English players in the French League since Hoddle, Hately and Waddle. None in Serie A since Jay Bothroyd's two year spell at Perugia and Lee Sharpe's 3 game loan spell at Sampdoria when David Platt was in charge. All we have abroad now are Matt Derbyshire who plays for Olympiacos Piraeus in Greece and Darius Vassell played last season for Ankaragücü in Turkey and hopes to stay in Turkey providing he finds a new club. Jermaine Pennant is the only English player in La Liga at Real Zaragoza. There's a story of a wasted talent either through a lack of proper development or more importantly in Pennant's case a lack of discipline and professionalism. Or maybe it's a case that our young players are so pampered in England on big contracts in the reserves that they've little motivation to move abroad and challenge themselves. Maybe Roy Keane is right and it's because that most of them are too lazy to take football seriously enough as they're happy with the Cadillac Escalade and a never ending conveyor belt of tarts they can spit roast with the help of a team mate or two. Or maybe it's because they aren't good enough in the first place.

I think that Merse posted a comment a while back saying that Capello had less English players who played top flight football to choose from than any other previous England manager. I think the percentage of English players in the premier league was in the low 30s from memory. Obviously this needs to be higher. You actually wonder just how many of the 30-odd% are actually of international calibre? A lot less than 30% thats for sure.

It think it's a wise move to keep Capello for the last two years of this contract. If he can install some sense into the younger generation and help develop a new generation then he's worth the money the FA pay him. I still think he's doing a better job than Sven and unlike dear Svennis he's hasn't had the luxury of having certain players fit and available and young enough to run around for 90 minutes. I'll concede that Sven had a good Euro 2004 tournament but that squad is a lot better than the one Capello had, Ian Walker excepted!

EDIT: I completely forgot about Owen Hargreaves being English and playing in Germany. But he moved from Calgary to Munich when he was 16 and then was developed by Bayern Munich. He was also the second footballer in history to play for England without having played in an English League. Who can name the other?

There's actually 3 national divisions now. You have the Bundesliga and the 2. Bundesliga. In 2008 the 3.Liga was founded. There are 3 regional divisions (Regionalliga) that feed into it. The Champion of each Regionalliga then gets promoted the 3. Liga. Underneath that there are then 12 Regional Oberliga divisions feeding into the Regionalliga.

At moment there are three Bundesliga sides (Werder Bremen, Bayern Munich and VFB Stuttgart) who run reserve teams in the 3. Liga. As fate would have it these 3 Bundesliga teams currently provide 14 out of the 23 players in Germany's World Cup squad.

In the Regionalliga divisions you have all the reserve teams from all the other big Bundesliga teams.

As for Karl-Marx Stadt. It's not Dynamo Dresden reserves fault that they've sunk so low. They should've never released Carl Priso.

Well, as Frankfurt Gull said, the Germans take their football very seriously indeed and it's reflected on how their clubs are set up. Most of the big clubs are also Sport's Clubs offering many different sports not just football. St Pauli actually run a Rugby team as well believe it or not.

I paid a visit a couple of years ago to the lovely Wildparkstadion in Karlsruhe and I was struck by how organised the coaching set up was. There were kids from many different age ranges having very specific training in small groups being supervised by a couple of coaches. The guy who I spoke to said that the club really needed to develop young players in order to keep them financially sound. I think this sums up German football in general. For the most part clubs seem to have more of a realistic view that they need to aspire to a level of football which is more sustainable. There's none of this investing millions on a complete Pipedream. All the money spent at Portsmouth and they're still at Fratton Park and facing a huge mountain of debt to pay back. I can't imagine this kind of thing going on in Germany. It says a lot for football that this year's Champions League Final between Internazionale and FC Bayern was overshadowed (in this country) by the £90 million play off final between Blackpool and Cardiff. If clubs like Blackpool, West Brom and Burnley are sensible they should take the £60 million in the Premier League and the £30 million in parachute payments and just yo-yo up and down until they find themselves in a strong financial position, which shouldn't on the face of it take too long!

As for introducing Premier League reserve teams into the league. Well I think it might bring some benefits in the development of young players. Instead of keeping young players in non competitive games they would be thrown into matches in competitve leagues. It can't be bad for them can it? As long as the club's can't go any higher than League 1. If there needs to be a bridge between League 1 and the Premiership then players can be loaned to Championship sides.

I think the biggest potential impact of including say 10 reserve sides of the biggest 10 Premiership clubs would be that it might impact the current loan system because potentially the likes of say "Tottenham Hotspur A" joining our league might not facilitate loanees like Adam Smith or Jamie Cox and the trio that Yeovil had last season. But this could be negated by Championship clubs looking to loan their players out as per normal. Another is the possible low away followings that you might get initially. But you might also find that these sides might find themselves getting support from fans getting increasingly disillusioned with Premiership football but wishing to continue a link of sorts with the club. I think it would need a radical shake up within the game and a change in our mentality both in how we deal with the tradition and how realistic we need our clubs to be. What's more important? Building solid setups which produce results or just doing the typical British thing of chucking vast sums of money without actually addressing the issue? At moment I can't see how lower league football can be sustainable for some clubs who like Accrington "survive" on an average of 1400 home gates.

But would the inclusion of playing Man Utd A, Liverpool A, Chelsea A, Aston Villa A, Man City A, Everton A, Arsenal A, Newcastle A, Tottenham A and West Ham A de-value lower league football? At the moment this model doesn't appear to be harming Germany and Spain's development of younger players. I don't believe the Italians have the same set up as Germany and Spain.

If you take Barcelona B for example, not only have they developed the likes of Lionel Messi, Xavi, Andres Iniesta, Victor Valdes and Carles Puyol but they've also had the added bonus of blooding new coaches. Current Barca manager Josep Guardiola spent two seasons as head coach of Barcelona B, as did a certain Juande Ramos back in 1996-1997. Luis Enrique is their current coach. What's the betting that he'll be Josep Guardiola's succesor? Real Madrid run a similar setup and their team has helped produce the likes of Raul, Guti, Ilker Casillas, Rafael Martin Vasquez, Michel, Emilio "The Vulture" Butragueno and a certain Mr Rafael Benitez before he formed The Mavericks and started reading out rants towards Fergie written down on Tesco Extra receipts.