Yeah and I wouldn`t have greased it first either! But I`ve simmered down a tad now , don`t get me wrong I`m still not very impressed by these knobheads but thier time will come, probably not from me but if you give that much shit to people very often you get a rude awakening at some point in your life, trust me on that one! Talking from experience here!
You can always come and stand with me ali I had words with the guy who I believe now plays the drum, he is the same guy who has the big flag that passes over us.I don't mind the flag to much, we do not have much choice but I take the view I should just get into the spirit of it.
The flag had only moved a short way as someone was holding onto it at the back of the stand, it was over my head for ages, he then started shouting up to someone,, let it go you F***ing W***er, he then got even more angry and shouted it out again. He was right in front of me and I asked him if that was any way to speak to fellow fans, he just swore again and said yes their just F***ing W***ers. With that the flag went no further and I thought what a nice man.
To be fair Dave, the "flag man" seems like a decent enough chap to me, I don't know him but stand quite near him on the pop. He's always supportive of the team, not one of the booing morons. On this occaion I think his description of the people holding onto the flag was pretty apt as they were attempting to tie his flag to the barrier, which they thought was hilarious!
They are the very same idiots who were giving Ali abuse! (The Buckle out brigade from earlier in the season).
I heard the badger chants but didn't know what or who they were about. Good on you Ali for standing up to these louts!
Jerry I never questioned if he was a decent chap or not I only questioned his outburst and choice of words he used. At each game he does his flag and always has a big smile on his face, its very clear he gets great enjoyment from doing it.
I said I have no problem with the flag, but then I don't really have a choice unless I want to move from where I have always stood, I have heard some maons about the flag and while he took it upon himself to do it every game it is what he wants to do and I'm sure no one has been asked if they mind.
You say someone was trying to tie the flag barrier, I was unaware just what was going on, but there are going to be times when some fool tries to spoil it. Why could he not just shout, come on lads stop mucking around and let the flag go, there is no reason in the world why he could not have just said that, but I get in right in my ear hole, you F***ing W***ers.
There are ways to say things correctly and ways to say the wrong things and If you can give me one good reason why I really should not mind what was shouted out, then I'm prepared to listen. I really don't buy any argument that says its OK because its at a football match, the dear old lady standing near me would not have excepted such and excuse.
Just why grown men feel the need to email in and tell the commentator where they are listening from is beyond belief to me, why can't they just concentrate on the the bloody game and let others listen to it in peace! Who the feck needs to know that I am in London N7, that I've just farted - (whoops worse than that) that I'm now in the shower and will be out again soon with a new pair of underpants on.
Now this I can get on board with. It all stems from this Radio 1 culture of "shout outs" on the air.
I DON'T CARE THAT YOU ARE IN A CAR ON THE M6 ON THE WAY TO SEE YOUR MATES AT MANCHESTER UNIVERSITY, I WANT TO HEAR SOME MUSIC!
I haven't had as much time as i would like recently to catch up on the views on the forum, so am trying to read all the posts i have missed.
I know its a bit late but i would like to add a couple of things to this thread, and apologies if i have covered something that someone else already has.
1. What is all the fuss about Beavon, i wasn't impressed at all for 87 minutes. I was saying to my daughter that out of the two strikers I'm glad we got Christie, I thought he was our best player, but Beavon would probably pop up in injury time to grab the winner. Then in the final 3 minutes or so Beavon looked a world beater, good finish and then unlucky not to get a second moments later. Mind you what would we give for a player that does bugger all all game but still manages a goal. Although that pretty much sums up Dsane, with a few less goals to his name.
2. Boo boys were so so predictable. Again talking to my daughter, i said if they were to break away and score then the morons in the crowd would boo the team. She didn't believe me and was genuinely disbelieving when it started. Memo to the boo boys, 'well done, the booing really helps' i noticed a marked improvement when you started!!!!!!!!! Maybe if you got behind the team when they most need it then the confidence would return quicker.
3. On the issue regarding the stewards moving us along at half time when we stopped for a 'quick' chat with Dave. Whilst i appreciate that the rules mean that we shouldn't stop on the Yellow lines to avoid 'Blocking' the path (although most of the movement happens before half time anyway, as the regulars head off for their half time beverage), but isn't part of the match day experience to socialise as well?? So by moving us along, whilst ignoring the other incidents, they are saying that it is OK to use the C word or verbally abuse a fellow fan, but not ok to stop for a chat.
4. I thought the game itself was pretty dire, but the interesting fact for me was the number of shots off target; 7 for us and none for them. 7 off target means that we are not testing their keeper enough, at least if we hit the target and the keeper does save/parry it gives us another opportunity. Failure to hit the target is lamentable, step forward Sills & Dsane. Failure to hit the target when none of the defenders are anywhere near is inexcusable.
I got a bit over protective earlier, I`ve had time to calm down and realize what I said was probably stupid, I apologies to the forum sincerely! I`m not very happy with the knobs that were having a go at Ali and will find it difficult not to say something to them when I see them again, but I will try to restrain myself! It doesn`t help matters when your daughter is searched on the way in, we play crap and its f*ckin freezing, I was seething all night and woke up really angry. Need to address a possible anger management issue me thinks!
I think you will find that there are a few of us who can relate to that
tufc01, I know you have been very busy of late with extra work etc, so I will forgive you late match post this time to be honest I never even noticed Beavon out on the pitch until he came near the popside and some fool gave him some abuse.
Apart from the goal he took well, I did not see much else from him and it was Phillips who stood out the most. Beavon did what our strikes are not doing and that was to put away the chance when he got it, how often have we seen players who are not in the game, but end up being the match winner because they have that something special, why our own Mark Loram could drift out of games but then would do something on the pitch that was pure class.
As regards the stewards, I will do what I did the last home game and politely tell them I'm having a quick chat and my friends will be moving on soon, I intend to have a word with the chief steward if I can about this and the singing from a few of our fans.
to be honest I never even noticed Beavon out on the pitch until he came near the popside and some fool gave him some abuse.
Apart from the goal he took well, I did not see much else from him
Everybody has preconceived ideas of what a "striker" should be, but from what I have seen of Stuart Beavon I think many have harboured the wrong ones.
Watching on TV and seeing someone live in the flesh can also lead to totally different perceptions, but I would venture from what I saw at Weymouth on Boxing Day of the player's role; that day he played wide on the right where we play Carlisle but more in the style of Dsane. Therefore I don't necessarily think that the signing of Christie would preclude a move for Beavon from a tactical point of view, but maybe from the financial aspect.................who knows?
Now I don't know just what role Beavon took up on Tuesday as the level of BBC commentary was abysmal and the level of summary on the playing aspect of the game was nil.
So would anyone who WAS at the game consider that Beavon played a role similar to the one I referred to at Weymouth on Boxing Day, or did he fulfil some other role in the lineup? Did he play off a "target man" for instance, and what role did Phillips play?
I've scrolled right back to the beginning of this thread and to date no-one has even ventured to present such an observation.
I thought Beavon stood out a mile for them and one who could be a great addition to our squad one day - he's definitely a player "on the up" and one to keep an eye on.
This statement might well hold some significence shortly!
I agree with DaveR about Ryan Williams. If he's a free agent in two weeks time, [glow=yellow,2,300]we could do worse than packing Carlisle or Carayol off to Salisbury or wherever[/glow] and getting him in on the left.
The thing that cheesed me off most tonight was the arguing between our fans near the end. The group of youths (who start the songs every now and then) were moaning about Buckle being tactically inept and that we'll never get out of this league with this idiot in charge, and so on. Okay, their paying to get into Plainmoor, so surely they have the freedom to say what they want, when they want (except the overuse of swear words like c*** and so on), but it was ridiculous. Hayden Jones and his friends reacted to what they were saying, with the fair point of "Your here to support your team, so bloody well do it" and other things along those lines.
They didn't say much more after that, but were the ones booing at the end (the youths, not Hayden and co.), but it frustrates me. Okay, the performance wasn't there, the same with the result, but they tried, but lacked the final touch infront of goal. Sills missed a couple, which will be another blow to his confidence, and Weymouth took their chances when gifted them. We failed to do so, and hence why they came away with the victory.
In my opinion, Christie wasn't good enough yet. He showed a couple of glimpses, but struggled to be honest, he missed that sitter and didn't really shine afterwards.
Stevens and Carayol again failed to perform in my opinion, Carayol stepovered until he lost control and fell over, and Stevens wasn't good enough for me. I don't know what Green needs to do to earn a league start. He ran a Championship defence ragged just three weeks ago, and now he can't get into the starting eleven against Weymouth!
I feel Buckle is making a big mistake in not playing Green, as he was doing a grand job against Blackpool/Coventry, he just wasn't scoring. Christie and Sills are too similar (they both try to flick on for the other).
Roscoe Dsane deserves to be dropped after his consistantly rubbish performances on the left. In my opinion, try Carlisle on the left with Carayol on the right, and see what happens.
[glow=Yellow,2,300]One final thing, I was a bit dissapointed to see Buckle not clap the fans after the match though. He just walked off, head down, probably ready to give the lads a rollicking![/glow] Rant over.
Yes he did come over towards the Pop side and clap.
To be fair to him he always does the same, win, lose or draw. He sort of gets half way over then claps. If you watch him each time he does it, he always has head down. To me he looks like he is a a bit shy/embarrassed. Probably expects an earful, even if we had won our 10th game on the trot without conceding, such is the fickleness of SOME of our fans. Its no different when we win. I just think he hasn't got used to that side of management. Its the same when you see him in the club shop or around the ground, he just comes over as a shy person???
We ALWAYS stay and clap the players at the end of each game, if you want to see someone stalk off at the end of a game, watch Woods next time he plays, he is almost down the tunnel before the ref has finished blowing for time. I don't like him/rate him anyway, so this doesn't endear himself much to the fans. Not that he is paid to do that, just think he is an ignorant sod.