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Post by Swanny on Nov 10, 2013 11:00:54 GMT
At least Benyon gives his all and he did win a few headed flick-ons well. However yesterday when he did have the ball he went down to ground so easily so many times looking for a foul that was not given and hence losing possession.
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Post by petef on Nov 10, 2013 13:18:04 GMT
I can forgive any player that gives everything and is committed to the cause and Benyon would have been the last player I would have taken off.
Im afraid i'm getting to the point of giving up with Knill and his tactical naivety. Yesterday was a shock to the system after last weeks glimmer of encouragement and with the way the team responded or failed to respond to the importance of yeterday's game.
A totally inept all round performance with so much of the basics of the game missing from our players. An uneasiness that few if any of the players feel comfortable on the ball or want to support each other and receive the "hot potato". In all my years of watching this club I cannot remember such a naive and inept all round performance and this with a virtually full squad at his disposal .
Martin Ling was lambasted for a similar performance at the same time last year which spelled the beginning of the end for his reign and I am beginning to ask myself how much longer has AK got to put all these problems right and get some consistency of performance back that may just save us from what now looks like the inevitable.
An awfully low crowd yesterday tells me that there are many supporters who are fed up with watching us being outplayed and humiliated week in week out.
The ground no longer has any atmosphere and looking around me yesterday it was difficult to see any one with a smile on their face it was a truly miserable afternoon which I paid good money for. I wont be doing it so much any more until we find a level where we can compete.
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Post by Swanny on Nov 10, 2013 13:58:55 GMT
I don't think the board has done themselves any favours either. They were adament that Ling went purely for football reasons due to early exits from all cup competitions and a lowly league position which did not seem that genuine at the time. And yet look what's happened this season - early exits from all cup competitions and an even lower league position so far with a lot more loanees I might add. Surely to be consistent and to have credibility decisions on Knill should be made a on similiar basis to Ling. And yet the board probably just cannot afford to do it.
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Post by petef on Nov 10, 2013 15:20:24 GMT
I don't think the board has done themselves any favours either. They were adament that Ling went purely for football reasons due to early exits from all cup competitions and a lowly league position which did not seem that genuine at the time. And yet look what's happened this season - early exits from all cup competitions and an even lower league position so far with a lot more loanees I might add. Surely to be consistent and to have credibility decisions on Knill should be made a on similiar basis to Ling. And yet the board probably just cannot afford to do it. Yes Swanny there is no alternative it seems we will have to stick with it I guess and try and muster the enthusiasm to support the club, manager and playing staff. I don't dislike the guy, its a tough job keeping us afloat but up till now h'es made a complete pigs ear of the whole thing but worst of all I am beginning to believe that he thinks we play well every week and have been unlucky. Mozika is his final trump card and imho has to be introduced along with playing THREE conventional midfielders at the expense of a one of the totally ineffective wingers. If that doesn't happen then I think he has become deluded and entrenched in this four up top system that has failed since day one. |
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Post by petef on Nov 10, 2013 17:14:15 GMT
So It would have been Mr Evans/Raynor Rotherham away if we had been good enough to make it through.
A blessing in disguise then perhaps not sure I could face a humiliating defeat at the hands of that low life and his side kick.
Unlucky Rochdale I think we are the winners in some ways.
That's our season over in effect just one more relegation struggle to look forward to.
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Post by phipsy on Nov 11, 2013 9:04:56 GMT
Having somewhat cooled down after that dreadful display v Rochdale, time for some observations.
Rochdale are near the top of the league we are near the bottom, shock upon shock , we lost.
Some observers. Thought that Rochdale were nothing special, but by golly they were head and shoulders above our team.
Alan knill has stated that we played the ball from back to front too quickly, haven't we playing that way all season. In my opinion the main problem seems to be a complete lack of creativity from the midfield which has been apparent from the first game. It's all very well signing all these forwards but there is actually no one there to give them a decent pass. Ricey is having a good season but is he never encouraged to roll the ball out and play from the back? I
I personally thought all the back four played ok on Saturday, but they had too go route one because there were no other options.
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Post by petef on Nov 11, 2013 10:20:00 GMT
Agreed Rochdale way ahead of us in nearly every aspect of their play but worryingly they were not up to much really.
The link from from the back to the front men problem has never been addressed and has been there from day one. Knill keeps on signing young inexperienced forwards or a tough tackling midfielder in McCourt and then wwonders why we continue to hoof the ball from the back at every opportunity. He has got his priorities all wrong, first on my list after the first few matches when it apparent where we were failing would have been an experienced midfielder in the Hargreaves mold to steady the ship in that area of he park. Mansell is just a bull in a china shop type of player and totally unsuited to control that crucial area.
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Post by rjdgull on Nov 11, 2013 11:32:59 GMT
Agreed Rochdale way ahead of us in nearly every aspect of their play but worryingly they were not up to much really. The link from from the back to the front men problem has never been addressed and has been there from day one. Knill keeps on signing young inexperienced forwards or a tough tackling midfielder in McCourt and then wwonders why we continue to hoof the ball from the back at every opportunity. He has got his priorities all wrong, first on my list after the first few matches when it apparent where we were failing would have been an experienced midfielder in the Hargreaves mold to steady the ship in that area of he park. Mansell is just a bull in a china shop type of player and totally unsuited to control that crucial area. I think Knill agrees with you in that Mozika seems to be the long term replacement and suspect it won't be too long until he is starting. Perhaps unlucky in that Harding was injured and although he has disappointed, was starting to play better just before he sustained that injury. Funny enough, I thought the three man midfield of Lathrope, Mansell and Eunan was a real strength of the side two years ago as all three midfielders were able to compliment each other with Eunan of course being a cut above. Will be interesting to see how Knill tackles this problem as diappointing to watch Rochdale pass the ball around similar to how we were only a short time ago.... |
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Post by Swanny on Nov 11, 2013 20:48:10 GMT
It did seem also rather odd that with all the options at his disposal, Knill opted to put Craig left wing when he made the triple substitution.
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Post by Ditmar van Nostrilboy on Nov 11, 2013 21:25:56 GMT
For all the options Swanny, there's only Bodin and Craig natural left footers? (apart from the left backs)
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Post by chelstongull on Dec 7, 2013 17:02:20 GMT
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Post by Ditmar van Nostrilboy on Dec 7, 2013 17:03:16 GMT
Yeah, i noticed Dale got the win at Rotherham as well
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Post by petef on Dec 7, 2013 17:18:59 GMT
Northampton and Newport knocked out by non league opposition and there are those on other forums arrogantly suggesting the Conference is inferior to league two.
Nothing in it having watched a few Conference matches of late the standard has definitely gone up since we departed the division.
I would imagine Boothroyd is now getting as much stick as our own manager after this latest and supposedly humiliating defeat.
Who's going to be the first to go between him and Knill?
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Post by Ditmar van Nostrilboy on Dec 7, 2013 17:38:20 GMT
There is that Pete, you only have to look at our little cup runs in the conference.
As we found out first season back in the league though, its a slightly different kettle of fish when you're playing league teams every week.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2013 17:44:51 GMT
Hugely enjoyable FA Cup game at Macclesfield this afternoon with Brackley pulling it back to 2-2 before going down to a late goal. The fight back will probably be described somewhere as being "inspired by second-half substitute Owen Story". He who once passed through Plainmoor of course.
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